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    1. Member Pat @ Pitt Soundworks's Avatar
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      07-08-2012 11:19 PM #211
      Not 100% yet. I need to get my friend at CMU to get some of her friends to crunch some numbers for me. I really like the idea of parallel turbos. Just guessing at numbers, a compound setup would flow around 120lb/min, a parallel setup would flow upwards of 195lb/min. I don't have intercooling for that, nor do I have fueling. The thought of the compressors possibly fighting each other worries me too.

      I'll probably stick to compounding just for the sake of simplicity. I have plenty of time to dwell on it. I won't have the funds to get this running until thanks giving... at best. That depends on how much it'll cost to get the tranny built. Then there's money for body work.... geeze.

      Parts I still need:
      - clutch, the deal with DLI-Teknik for a custom twin didn't pan out, so the money went elsewhere
      - tranny work, found out one of two of my 02ms has no first or second, so I might as well get it built. it'll need it
      - about another 1k worth of misc lines/fittings from summit
      - gauges
      - a standalone
      - seats
      - engine mounts
      - tires
      - haldex controller

      sheesh. I hope it's a busy fall/winter for work. Looking at that list makes me thing it won't be moving on it's own power until this time next year.


      Turbos are the Precision 8285 and a Holset HY35. If the Hy35 isn't enough (gt35R sized compressor and turbine wheel, 60 lb/min), I have a HX35/40 pro sitting on the shelf. Twin scrolled, 70lb/min compressor, bigger turbine.

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      07-09-2012 01:33 AM #212
      You gonna try all this through an air to air or air to water?

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      07-09-2012 02:52 AM #213
      water

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      07-09-2012 12:10 PM #214
      So BAU5

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      07-09-2012 01:55 PM #215
      sub'd for the impending glory.
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    6. 07-09-2012 03:28 PM #216
      Amazing Work Pat, you are a genius.

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      07-09-2012 03:28 PM #217
      That has to be the BEST 'muffling device' I have seen...

      Clever mounting on the back of the Haldex.


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      07-09-2012 11:20 PM #218
      Genius is a little much, but thanks guys!

      I don't care how played they are, I love this look



      Need to get the new skirts painted

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      07-10-2012 12:51 AM #219
      not played.... ive been sittin on a set for 4 years now... never gotten around to doing anything with them yet!

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      07-10-2012 01:32 AM #220
      I can't think of a nicer looking wheel on a red gti. I'm sure they'll look amazing on your tropic orange.

    11. 07-10-2012 09:31 AM #221
      Quote Originally Posted by Pat @ Pitt Soundworks View Post
      Genius is a little much, but thanks guys!

      I don't care how played they are, I love this look



      Need to get the new skirts painted
      Nope you are genius, its funny because I had this idea about a week ago, remote turbo in parallel with my PTE557E, was thinking a Exhaust cutout valve wired to a switch, so you can run the small turbo straight up, and they open the valve around 4500rpm, and direct the exhaust into the second remote turbo, I was thinking a PWR barrel AWIC mounted under the car would do the trick, great work Pat.

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      07-10-2012 10:24 AM #222
      I think tuning for that would be a bitch unless you could also change maps with the flick of the switch

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      07-10-2012 07:08 PM #223
      Anyone have a spare stock passenger side motor mount they can donate to the cause?

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      07-10-2012 07:28 PM #224
      Quote Originally Posted by Pat @ Pitt Soundworks View Post
      Anyone have a spare stock passenger side motor mount they can donate to the cause?
      i threw mine away... sorry

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      07-10-2012 11:24 PM #225
      Today was a day full of running errands. Had to get hail damage apraised, make a trip 100 miles in the opposite direction for aluminum sheet for heat shields/debris shields/surge tank, and some other stuff. All I got done was moving the turbo flange up another 1/2". As it was, the tubing was level to the ground, but the turbine v-band flange hung 1/2" lower than the tubing. Now it's all adjusted so the tubing where it passes under the rear subframe is the lowest point in the car. And even then, it's still at the same height as xzy brand's single 3" exhaust.

      You can't really tell, but it's a lot higher. It's as high as I could take it without restricting access to the lowest haldex bolt on the left.


      Another bad shot, but you can now see that the v-band clamp isn't any lower than the piping.

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      07-11-2012 08:15 AM #226
      whats your idea for the oil pump back to the motor?
      we ran into a bunch of issues figureing that out years back when we did a remote turbo setup and also we helped ngp's jetta vr remote turbo setup with this as well...

      info we did if it helps....

      - ran the line for return, then figured out how much oil would fill the line from the turbo drian to the motor
      - made a tank that would hold that much oil and a bit extra BECAUSE when you shut of the motor, the oil drains back and we had 2 turbos blow seals because of the drain back and filled the turbo. the tanks was right under the turbo, but the NGP one was just to the side but has to be lower then the drain of the turbo.
      - we ran a turbo timer to run the return oil pump for 15 seconds after the motor was off to clear the line as best as posible
      - run a pump that can push the oil but does NOT have to have the lines filled, it will push it no matter the volume. some pumps won't push unless its primed and full...that will not work.
      - we also(for saftey) ran a light on the dash to show when the pump was working or not, if the light went off, the pump was dead, no oil return. etc
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      07-11-2012 11:20 AM #227
      That's pretty much exactly what I have in mind, except for the tank. My idea was to mount a mocal differential oil pump on the open space on the bracket I made. It doesn't need to be primed. I would have a one-way check valve on the inlet of the pump, and the drain line would be 6" long at worst. I was going to run the pump on a 30 second after-run timer and a dash light.

      From the research I've been using, the mocal pump perfoms every bit as well as the STS pumps and it's the same gear drive, not an impeller drive, so it doesn't matter how much fluid is inside of it. It's also 1/10th of the price.

      I was also tossing around the idea of a standalone oiling system, but I worry about how quickly it would get up to temp.

      The NGP set-up you referred to, that's not the mk3 Dusty Mauve build, is it?

    18. 07-23-2012 10:22 AM #228
      Its the same one Dusty Mauve.

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      08-04-2012 12:06 PM #229
      Quote Originally Posted by Pat @ Pitt Soundworks View Post
      Anyone have a spare stock passenger side motor mount they can donate to the cause?
      mk4 R mount or mk5 2.5 mount?

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      08-04-2012 12:15 PM #230
      Patrick stock MKV 2.5 Rabbit mount? I have a few

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      08-29-2012 02:51 AM #231
      Not much to report. Got a care package from Canada.


      stg 3 oil cooler package
      forged pistons and rods
      arp tops and bottoms

      waiting on another package

      I haven't been working on this car too much, because I've been working on this one:
      http://forums.acuralegend.org/omg-gr...t13252p24.html

      But it's time to start up work again, so she's getting put away for the winter. Maybe around thanksgiving, I can get the manifold cranked out. While I'm away, though, the block is going for machining.

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      08-29-2012 03:21 AM #232
      looks like a VERY great care package!

      cant wait for more.

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      08-29-2012 10:59 PM #233
      Awesome build, Subscribed

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      08-31-2012 09:37 PM #234
      I hate reading awesome but incomplete threads like this, i want MORE!
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      08-31-2012 10:06 PM #235
      Just have to wait. With work starting back up last week I can get more parts rolling in. Hopefully I'll have everything needed here by thanksgiving. Christmas at the latest. But what little time I'll have at home between jobs I need to dedicate to getting that Honda up and running first. Then I can go back to this.

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      10-11-2012 09:05 AM #236
      just stumbled across this! great build!

      i just finished a compounded TDI! looking forward to seeing this come to fruition!

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      10-11-2012 10:09 PM #237
      mmm hmmmm!

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      10-11-2012 10:26 PM #238
      Id love to see some info on that compound tdi!

      Once a torque plate shows up, I can get the whole.bottom end to the machine sshop.

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      10-11-2012 11:08 PM #239
      DAMN i had just found the whole thread on that TDi about two weeks ago after searching for an hour...i'll see if i can dig it up again.

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      10-12-2012 12:08 AM #242
      That's awesome....

      I remember reading about a tripple compound beetle, two turbos, one supercharger, and helping a guy with a blue corrado doing a 3076 and lysholm.... I can't ever find info on those builds again....

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      10-12-2012 10:53 AM #244
      Quote Originally Posted by Pat @ Pitt Soundworks View Post
      Id love to see some info on that compound tdi!

      Once a torque plate shows up, I can get the whole.bottom end to the machine sshop.
      here is my thread on tdi club...hasnt been updated in a while...once i got it running its been hard to deal with keeping the thread updated with current photos...
      http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=353217

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      10-12-2012 06:13 PM #245
      Quote Originally Posted by fouckhest View Post
      here is my thread on tdi club...hasnt been updated in a while...once i got it running its been hard to deal with keeping the thread updated with current photos...
      http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=353217
      Just went through your thread. That's some very impressive work you've done! I really like that blue color as well!

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