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      12-17-2011 03:27 PM #26
      lower it

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      12-17-2011 03:50 PM #27
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      12-17-2011 03:54 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      When I was learing to drive I wasn't allowed to touch my dads Acura or later BMW so it was the family Ford van. The V6 felt like a rocketship to me at the time
      Ford van? This thread is about Chryslers. The Windstar was a blatant copy of the Caravan, though.
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      12-17-2011 04:19 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by two.twoliter View Post
      Ford van? This thread is about Chryslers. The Windstar was a blatant copy of the Caravan, though.
      Even sportier though.

      Also, if he means Aerostar it was RWD with 4WD optional so not quite that blatant.

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      12-17-2011 04:19 PM #30
      I remember learning to drive in my rents Ford Aerostar. RWD = bad idea for a HS student. That thing did great brake stands and fishtails... lol

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      12-18-2011 06:59 AM #31
      After owning pretty much nothing but stationwagons I got a minivan, '03 Chyrsler Grand Voyager.
      Got rid of it due to concerns of expensive failures pending, and got bent right out of shape on the trade for the Rav4 that replaced it. Seriously thinking about getting another minivan. REALLY miss it.

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      12-18-2011 07:08 AM #32
      I dont think I could get rid of the family 1996 Caravan (SWB, 3 dr, base model). The 3.0 v6 and electronics aren't doing so well after 300000+ kms, but when the van kicks the bucket an SRT-4 engine + 5 speed swap is in order.

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      12-18-2011 07:48 AM #33
      I've owned several Caravans. My first was a 94 T&C with 176k on it, then when I sold it, I went to a 95 Caravan sport with 267k! Sold that and bought a 97 T&C. I dearly love these vans. All of mine had the 3.8 V6. It got reasonable mileage (22-25) on the highway, was super comfy and they freakin' rocked in the snow! Wonderful, would certainly buy again. My 97's trans bit the dust soon after I bought it, and $1400 I had a rebuilt unit with a warranty.

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      12-19-2011 02:41 PM #34
      Do want: The newest Dodge Caravan Man Van aka R/T model.

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      12-19-2011 04:10 PM #35
      Almost R/T...


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      12-19-2011 04:14 PM #36
      The caravan's used to be able to do huuge burnouts too! back in my highschool days, my friends and I loved to make a slight turn and punch the gas and just let em spin!
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      12-19-2011 04:20 PM #37
      I JUST had a Dodge Grand Caravan SE a week or so ago as a rental. It wasn't that bad! The V6 had ok power. Build quality seemed good and it wasn't all bad to drive.

      to Minivans!
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      12-20-2011 06:31 AM #38
      I remember learning to drive with our '94 Aerostar XLT Sport extended length with 4.0L and RWD... that thing seriously hauled, and did crazy burnouts, but going around corners proved difficult .

      I really liked minivans as a kid growing up, with my favourites being the 2nd gen Dodge Grand Caravan ES, and the Chevy Astro Extended LT





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      12-20-2011 06:55 AM #39
      I've lost count of how many Caravans my mom has had. Tons.

      The previous one she bought was periwinkle, and I remember it because it was right before Stow'n'Go came out. S'n'G was under total embargo - I'd known about it for months because of work, and half of Detroit knew about it, but we couldn't say a thing to the public. So there is my mom, carrying on about how she is going to buy a new van, it's not going to be red (so my dad would quit getting flagged for speeding), and I'm begging and pleading with her to wait for another week or month until I know when the embargo will lift. It lifted the day the first vans rolled off the line - literally vans shipped from Windsor and the dealers weren't sure what they were getting if they weren't in the loop. I called her that day, and told her to go to the dealer and ask for a S'n'G van. They just stared at her like "what?" Called her up two days later and told her to come in, they got one and it was hers if she was willing to drive a purple car.

      I know there was one woody-paneled dark cherry GenI, I think a light blue GenII (still boxy), then at least one more blue one and a beige one. Current one is black with a wheelchair conversion for my dad. We call it Darth Vanner.
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      12-20-2011 09:58 AM #40
      I'll just say this:

      I rented a 2011 Grand Caravan and hauled 4 people and luggage and got ~30mpg. I then rented a 2011 Focus 4-door and carried 2 people and luggage and got 27mpg. What the hell?
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      12-20-2011 10:03 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by volkstyle View Post
      My mom had one, transmission broke at 100k. Her ex bf had one transmission broke at 100k he replaced it then it broke at 200k.
      CSB ALERT!!!


      When I worked in Stereos and Alarms a guy came in and told me that he was in his and stopped at a rest area and a guy came up and said "nice minivan, how many miles on it?" He told him (I think like 90k) and the guy said "Im an ex engineer for Chrysler, please sell it before it hits 100k. The trans will go then, mark my words" The guy said he didnt care... Then at 100k it went.

      I told the story to my aunt- didnt buy it. 100k on the way to my GM funeral, BOOM (literally) locked up in traffic

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      12-20-2011 10:53 AM #42
      Love the Caravan, everything about them.
      We have an '04 - the nice thing about it is, with 5 young daughters between my wife & I, I put a bench seat in the middle row and turned it into an 8 passenger.

      Can't do that now with Stow 'N Go.

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      12-20-2011 11:19 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by SteveMKIIDub View Post
      I JUST had a Dodge Grand Caravan SE a week or so ago as a rental. It wasn't that bad! The V6 had ok power. Build quality seemed good and it wasn't all bad to drive.

      to Minivans!
      I ended up with a new rental last summer when my Subaru was stolen. Not to bad to drive but GOD the new vans are UGLY.
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      12-20-2011 06:52 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by sortadelux View Post
      I ended up with a new rental last summer when my Subaru was stolen. Not to bad to drive but GOD the new vans are UGLY.
      I don't like the way the new vans look either.
      Either Fiat will come out with a good looking replacement in a few years or.

      Not.

      Well, hope this link takes the van out of the matrix.
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      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      You are in the land of rust and honey.

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      12-21-2011 04:17 PM #45
      ^^^
      Looks like that van is entering the Matrix....

      Anyways, would like to see the Caravan R/T a little more sportied up, kinda like the one on display:


      Or like this one back in '99ish:

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      12-21-2011 05:42 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by worth_fixing View Post
      Sit in the driver seat, pound it, take a corner and tell me this isn't a sports car.
      We had to perform a few modifications to make it feel more like a sports car:


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      12-21-2011 05:47 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by marknuck311 View Post
      ^^^
      Looks like that van is entering the Matrix....

      Or like this one back in '99ish:
      That van was built and either car and driver or road and track did an article on it. I remember they were impressed with the large wheels, unique styling features, as well as the fun of driving around in such a vehicle yet Chrysler never got around to tuning the engine so it still had something like 170 hp or so.
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      You are in the land of rust and honey.

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      12-21-2011 06:06 PM #48
      I’m 30, so needless to say I grew up in one and as a teenager, I hated it. Then, some years later, my parents gave me their aging Grand Voyager as I needed a winter car badly. Yep, I loved it. I removed one backseat and never worried if ‘this will fit’ again. A 4X8 sheet did fit, but not w/out scraping the interior panels (’94 model). I think they fixed it later.

      It was slow, it was boring, the trans refused to downshift when it was time to and it was a bit expensive on gas (3.3 V6), but it was practical and comfy. Oh, and the upside of being slow: road rage on my part was not an issue…

      Edit: I just wonder why they don't make an Outback/Allroad version of it. Add a Westphalia top and a rubber-lined passenger/cargo area (à la Element) and you have the perfect vehicle for outdoorsy people.
      Last edited by Bakounine; 12-21-2011 at 06:10 PM.

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      12-21-2011 06:08 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by volkstyle View Post
      My mom had one, transmission broke at 100k. Her ex bf had one transmission broke at 100k he replaced it then it broke at 200k.
      Care to tell us how they got their transmissions to last so long?
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