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    Thread: Turbocharged 2013 Chevrolet Sonic RS Pushes Performance

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      12-19-2011 12:15 AM #1


      Quote Originally Posted by C&D
      Chevrolet’s latest B-segment contender, the Sonic, is pretty darn good. It placed second in a recent six-car comparison test, and nifty interior duds won it a place on our 10Best Design Details list. Things are about to get even more interesting with the turbocharged Sonic RS that will debut at the 2012 Detroit auto show.

      RS: Really Sporty

      Right off the bat, let’s get one thing out of the way: The Sonic RS won’t pack any additional power. It does, however, look better, and it should handle better and stop shorter, too. Based on the five-door hatchback, the RS wears styling that’s even more pumped-out than that of the standard car. Most of the kit seems transplanted directly from the Aveo RS concept Chevy brought to Detroit two years ago. There’s a more-aggressive fascia up front with an RS-specific grille and unique fog lights, new rocker panels, and a new rear bumper and spoiler. Also included is a nice set of 17-inch wheels.

      Chevrolet dressed up the interior in athletic wear, too. There are sport seats, a thicker steering wheel with a flat bottom, aluminum pedals, and a unique instrument-cluster design. Chevrolet’s MyLink infotainment system, which features a seven-inch touch screen and Bluetooth connectivity, will be standard. A smartphone app will be available to push navigation info to the display.

      Turn, Stop, Go

      While we’re a bit bummed the RS doesn’t get any more power, the turbocharged 1.4-liter four’s 138 hp and 148 lb-ft of torque were good enough to propel a Sonic to 60 mph in just 8.2 seconds in our testing. In this class, that’s pretty quick. Turbo Sonics are currently only available with the stick, but the RS ushers in a new era of choice, offering both the six-speed manual and a six-speed automatic. The auto will be available in other turbocharged Sonics in the spring. Engineers did fiddle with the RS’s gearing a bit—the manual gets closer ratios, and the automatic gets a shorter final-drive—so it will likely be slightly quicker than the standard turbo..

      Chevy did a bit more underneath the RS. Its suspension is stiffer and lower, and it will be the only Sonic with rear disc brakes. The electric power steering is untouched, which is fine by us—we found the rack plenty quick in the standard car.

      Chevy’s going to have a tough time pricing the RS. Normal Sonics can get pretty expensive, especially the higher trim levels. The last LTZ Turbo we tested cost $19,545—and it wasn’t even fully loaded. Even a modest premium for the RS could push it into the territory of the larger Chevy Cruze and Ford Focus. (If Ford’s Fiesta ST goes into production, it will face a similar problem.)




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      12-19-2011 12:16 AM #2


      I wish they'd give it more power though

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      12-19-2011 12:19 AM #3
      I like the upgrades to appearance, but the suspension upgrades are 100X more interesting. I wonder what the pricing is going to be...
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      12-19-2011 12:24 AM #4
      I am in love!
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      12-19-2011 01:07 AM #5
      In for the overall aspects of the handling due to the suspension change.

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      12-19-2011 06:53 AM #6
      No xenon projectors???


      Maybe its the sedan sibling that has them?
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      12-19-2011 07:07 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by KeiCar View Post
      No xenon projectors???


      Maybe its the sedan sibling that has them?
      Why are things like this so important to everyone? In my mind, it can have normal headlights if it keeps what is supposed to be a low cost, entry level car.... entry level.

      As long as my cars have power windows, locks and AC I'm a happy camper. Anything else is unnecessary and a luxury not needed in entry level cars.

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      12-19-2011 07:10 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by KeiCar View Post
      No xenon projectors???


      Maybe its the sedan sibling that has them?
      OEM projectors generally suck anyways. Most good projectors are on Japanese cars, not American.

    9. 12-19-2011 07:14 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by AutoUnion32 View Post


      I wish they'd give it more power though
      Leaves room for a power bump in the form of a SS version....

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      12-19-2011 07:25 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by AutoUnion32 View Post


      I wish they'd give it more power though
      You obviously don't get this car.
      Do you want to ride to 60 in three seconds or drive there in five?

    11. 12-19-2011 07:48 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by patrickvr6 View Post
      You obviously don't get this car.
      148 lbs tq is perfect! It's exactly as the engineers intended! Have you looked at the power to weight ratio? My car only has 130 lbs tq and it is perfectly drivable in every situation! I honestly don't know why anyone would want more! Nobody NEEDS more power! Anyone wanting more power is a knucledragger who should just go buy a Mustang if that is their thing! REAL enthusiasts see this for the perfection it is! It's so lightweight! THIS is what cars should be! Nice to see them going back to the OLD formula! I get tired of cars always getting more stuff, and more power! The HP wars are dumb and pointless. And anyone valuing the HP wars are just DUMB! People wanting this car to be faster just don't get this car or cars like it! This is about the driving experience maaaan! This is about man and machine maaaan! Yeah, more power is dumb! People just don't get this car!

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      12-19-2011 08:20 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by DJMRDARK View Post
      148 lbs tq is perfect! It's exactly as the engineers intended! Have you looked at the power to weight ratio? My car only has 130 lbs tq and it is perfectly drivable in every situation! I honestly don't know why anyone would want more! Nobody NEEDS more power! Anyone wanting more power is a knucledragger who should just go buy a Mustang if that is their thing! REAL enthusiasts see this for the perfection it is! It's so lightweight! THIS is what cars should be! Nice to see them going back to the OLD formula! I get tired of cars always getting more stuff, and more power! The HP wars are dumb and pointless. And anyone valuing the HP wars are just DUMB! People wanting this car to be faster just don't get this car or cars like it! This is about the driving experience maaaan! This is about man and machine maaaan! Yeah, more power is dumb! People just don't get this car!
      Testify!!
      Do you want to ride to 60 in three seconds or drive there in five?

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      12-19-2011 08:31 AM #13
      I can't wait for SCCA Spec Sonic in 10 years.

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      12-19-2011 08:40 AM #15
      I agree it doesn't need much more power, but a 0-60 in the low 7s would be nice

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      12-19-2011 09:05 AM #16
      Interior looks nice! Much better than any GM entry level car I've seen in recent past.

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      12-19-2011 09:10 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by AutoUnion32 View Post


      I wish they'd give it more power though
      I'm sure there will be some tuning options for this motor eventually (software flash, etc.)

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      12-19-2011 09:15 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by AutoUnion32 View Post


      I wish they'd give it more power though
      Trifecta tune and done.
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      12-19-2011 09:17 AM #19
      I like it although I don't think I've seen a Sonic hatch yet. All I've seen thus far have been sedans.

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      12-19-2011 09:53 AM #20
      i'm not surprised they didn't bump the power. keep in mind this car (motor) needs to meet emissions standards...the main reason the solstice gxp/sky redline didn't make 290/340 from the factory was the fact they couldn't meet emissions standards. this engine is a baby version of the LNF, so i assume that the problem is similar.

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      12-19-2011 10:06 AM #21
      148lbs of torque from a 1.4 Turbo is nice. Just shows how pathetic the 86/BRZ is with just 151 lbs from a much bigger engine.

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      12-19-2011 10:12 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by teklord69 View Post
      148lbs of torque from a 1.4 Turbo is nice. Just shows how pathetic the 86/BRZ is with just 151 lbs from a much bigger engine.
      I know you're making a joke off the new meme, but before we get derailed, I'll remind people turbo vs NA. 75 lbft/liter is pretty close to the Shomegrown-quoted practical limit of 80 lbft for production NA cars.

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      12-19-2011 10:13 AM #23
      No extra power, but better bits behind the new 17s is still

      Quote Originally Posted by gas, meet foot View Post
      I know you're making a joke off the new meme, but before we get derailed, I'll remind people turbo vs NA. 75 lbft/liter is pretty close to the Shomegrown-quoted practical limit of 80 lbft for production NA cars.
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      12-19-2011 10:14 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by gas, meet foot View Post
      I know you're making a joke off the new meme, but before we get derailed, I'll remind people turbo vs NA. 75 lbft/liter is pretty close to the Shomegrown-quoted practical limit of 80 lbft for production NA cars.
      Point is the BRZ/86 should have a turbo!

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      12-19-2011 10:17 AM #25
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      12-19-2011 10:18 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by teklord69 View Post
      Point is the BRZ/86 should have a turbo!
      Fine. Buy one and add one.

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      12-19-2011 10:34 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by KeiCar View Post
      No xenon projectors???


      Maybe its the sedan sibling that has them?
      Do they not have street lights in your part of the country? Where I live, people drive around with no headlights on a semi-regular basis because the street lights are good enough that you don't even need headlights. HIDs provide no practical advantage at all if you live in a major city.

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      12-19-2011 10:37 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by teklord69 View Post
      Point is the BRZ/86 should have a turbo!
      Point is, people insist on giving you the attention you so desperately and pathetically crave, even if it's negative, and so you stick around with this tired bull****.
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      12-19-2011 11:07 AM #29
      Cool little car. Hopefully it'll start under $20k, but if the tested LTZ goes for $19.5k I'm not too optimistic about the pricing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MustacheGT View Post
      OEM projectors generally suck anyways. Most good projectors are on Japanese cars, not American.
      Disagree. I find myself dazzled more by oncoming Japanese cars with projectors.

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      12-19-2011 11:19 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by AutoUnion32 View Post


      I wish they'd give it more power though
      +$350

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      12-19-2011 11:23 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by masa8888 View Post
      Cool little car. Hopefully it'll start under $20k, but if the tested LTZ goes for $19.5k I'm not too optimistic about the pricing.
      If its anything like the Cruze and Camaro, it will be an option package for the LT and higher, for something around $700-$1000. If that ends up being the way it is, it'd be about $17k on a Sedan LT1.

      edit: My favorite addition is the rear discs. Could be a decent budget track car in a number of years.
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      Trifecta's tune looks awesome - "gain of about 36HP and 54TQ on an otherwise completely stock vehicle. This is a 31% gain in HP and 38% gain in torque"

      I have their tune for our Regal Turbo and it is amazing
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      Quote Originally Posted by PlatinumGLS View Post
      Trifecta's tune looks awesome - "gain of about 36HP and 54TQ on an otherwise completely stock vehicle. This is a 31% gain in HP and 38% gain in torque"

      I have their tune for our Regal Turbo and it is amazing
      Do tell! I didn't know you had gone through with the tune yet
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      So it looks badass but is not really any faster than a baseline Golf. Got it.

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