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    Thread: Brand New 2012 GTI, 4K Miles, Clutch Failed

    1. Junior Member Aquadooloop's Avatar
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      12-29-2011 06:29 PM #1
      Today I was driving spiritedly, coming up to a turn where I decelerated to 60mph rev-matched preparing to downshift into 3rd. As I tried to shift I literally could not shift into gear, the gearshift would not move into gear. So I pulled the car to the shoulder and lifted my foot off the clutch and the pedal did not return. Anyone have a similar experience on an MK6 with such low mileage (4K)?

      While I realize it could be due to my driving, I've been driving a manual gearbox for 20 years and feel fairly confident I'm not abusing the clutch.

      Something that's coming to mind as I'm thinking about this issue is that every time I would return from a spirited drive and park I smelled a mild burning odor. This being my first VW I chalked it up to a characteristic of the car. Wondering now if this was an indication there was something amiss from the outset. I've never turned off the traction control and "popped the clutch" from a standstill, no burnouts, never experienced grinding of the synchros, really no abuse of the clutch that I can think of. I do engine brake often but release the clutch slowly as one should. Anyone have similar experiences?

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      12-29-2011 06:33 PM #2
      did you take it to the dealer?

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      12-29-2011 06:37 PM #3
      Sounds like clutch master cylinder issue. I dont think you messed the clutch up.

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      12-29-2011 06:53 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by 2011VWTDI View Post
      Sounds like clutch master cylinder issue. I dont think you messed the clutch up.
      Agree, or slave cylinder... Warranty fix and good to go
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      12-29-2011 06:54 PM #5
      That exact issue would happen on the corvette when the clutch fluid would get contaminated...

      The "burned" odor is what concerns me, let the dealer check it out and let us know.

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      12-29-2011 07:06 PM #6
      Thanks everyone. Yes, it's at the dealer.

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      12-29-2011 08:26 PM #7
      The dealer will likely replace the whole clutch assembly along with the associated hydraulics and you will be good to go. Sounds like the hydraulics weren't disengaging the clutch properly when you were getting the burning smell...then the hydraulics completely crapped out.

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      12-29-2011 08:49 PM #8
      Might as well upgrade the clutch if you're planning on going Stage 1 or above soon.

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      12-29-2011 08:56 PM #9
      what's the cost? ...roughly

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      12-29-2011 09:05 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Aquadooloop View Post
      what's the cost? ...roughly
      The clutch itself is about $300 online from what I've been finding. Not sure on labor because dealer might balk at the warranty repair.

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      12-29-2011 10:12 PM #11
      Definitely slave/master cylinder due to clutch not coming up off the floor. Or the fluid line to the tranny popped out causing no fluid to the tranny and the pedal sticking to the floor. It wouldn't suprise me if it was just the line due to it working fine and then all of a sudden not working.
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      12-29-2011 10:32 PM #12
      so these 02M have the same issue as the 02Ms in the 20ths and GLIs.

      before i traded my 20th my slave cylinder went and it cost me 850 dollars including the tow to get a 100 dollar piece replaced that VW in there infinite wisdom put inside the tranny

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      12-30-2011 03:41 PM #13
      heard from the dealer service manager and it was the master cylinder. He said he couldn't remember the last time he had to replace a MC, so clearly this was a defective part from the start.

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      12-30-2011 03:42 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Aquadooloop View Post
      heard from the dealer service manager and it was the master cylinder. He said he couldn't remember the last time he had to replace a MC, so clearly this was a defective part from the start.
      I told you so....

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      12-30-2011 05:18 PM #15
      warranty should cover this
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      12-30-2011 05:19 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Aquadooloop View Post
      heard from the dealer service manager and it was the master cylinder. He said he couldn't remember the last time he had to replace a MC, so clearly this was a defective part from the start.
      cool

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      12-30-2011 10:26 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by checkdalevel View Post
      so these 02M have the same issue as the 02Ms in the 20ths and GLIs.

      before i traded my 20th my slave cylinder went and it cost me 850 dollars including the tow to get a 100 dollar piece replaced that VW in there infinite wisdom put inside the tranny
      it's actually 02Q (on mk5 & mk6)
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      01-05-2012 04:26 PM #18
      So the dealer order the master cylinder, installed it then called to tell me that didnt fix the problem. Then they said it was the slave, the replaced that, didnt fix the problem. Now they're waiting for the clutch to come in so they can replace that. Insane on a car with 4000 miles.

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      01-05-2012 04:50 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Aquadooloop View Post
      So the dealer order the master cylinder, installed it then called to tell me that didnt fix the problem. Then they said it was the slave, the replaced that, didnt fix the problem. Now they're waiting for the clutch to come in so they can replace that. Insane on a car with 4000 miles.
      Sucks man, hopefully the new clutch fixes it. Your gonna have to go through that damn break-in again tho.
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      01-05-2012 05:00 PM #20
      Sounds right to me a failing master cylinder won't cause a "burning" smell.

      Sounds like the clutch was being "burned" for some time.

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      01-05-2012 05:56 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by 2011VWTDI View Post
      I told you so....
      You sure did......

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      01-05-2012 05:58 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Aquadooloop View Post
      So the dealer order the master cylinder, installed it then called to tell me that didnt fix the problem. Then they said it was the slave, the replaced that, didnt fix the problem. Now they're waiting for the clutch to come in so they can replace that. Insane on a car with 4000 miles.
      sounds like the dealer doesnt know what they are doing

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      01-05-2012 06:16 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post
      sounds like the dealer doesnt know what they are doing
      agree
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sump View Post
      I'm sure a lot of these guys went home after the carwash and played a little hans solo.

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      01-07-2012 05:07 PM #24
      picked up the car yesterday. The sales guy that sold me the car is a really cool guy so while they were doing the final test drive I was chatting with him. He said he'd gone into the shop earlier in the day and saw my car so he went over to the mechanic to see what was up. He looked down to see the clutch plate in two pieces; it totally snapped in half. But he said there wasn't any wear that indicated abuse had caused it, just must have been a defective part from the beginning.

      Of course on the drive home I'm rolling to a stop light and try to slip into first gear and grrrrind, wont go into first. I was able to gingerly get it into first. The next few times I stopped it didn't happen but it has happened again intermittently. All other gear shifts are fine--guess I'm going back on Monday.

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      01-07-2012 05:59 PM #25
      I have a 2010 GTI and my clutch or gear box is messed up. It won't stay in gear if I am at any type of incline. As soon as I pull away it pops out of gear. I got an appt on Monday, I'll keep you posted!

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