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      12-30-2011 07:15 PM #1
      From: http://www.wbaltv.com/news/30105743/detail.html





      BALTIMORE -- Time has run out for the operators of the Grand Prix in Baltimore, according to the mayor's office.
      City officials announced the termination of an agreement -- effective immediately -- with Baltimore Racing Development for "failing to honor terms of its Motorsports Development Agreement with the city."
      The city continues to demand immediate payment of public debts owed. "Without an agreement, BRD cannot conduct the Baltimore Grand Prix in future years," according to the city's statement.
      According to the mayor's office, the BRD owes to the city
      $700,000 in reimbursement costs for city services; $487,971 in admissions and amusement taxes; a $250,000 racing event fee; and $50,862 owed to the Parking Authority of Baltimore City for parking at city-owned facilities during the Grand Prix. The city is also requesting an additional $250,000 for services that were to be provided by BRD in the Event Management Plan were not provided by BRD to the extent planned for and required.
      "I hoped that BRD would restructure, recapitalize and begin to pay taxes and debts by the Dec. 31 deadline. BRD's corporate officers and managers have failed to take the appropriate steps to put the company on a sustainable path forward," Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake said in a statement.
      A response from the BRD was not immediately available. The mayor's office declined to comment further.
      A plan outlined last week would have given former Goldman Sachs and Constellation Energy executive Felix J. Dawson leadership of BRD, which is $12 million in debt.
      The city said it established clear terms in November to pay taxes and debts owed to the city and work to repay any debts to vendors. Documents indicate race organizers owe $3.1 million to vendors; $2.5 million to the Maryland Stadium Authority; $1.9 million to Baltimore City; $1.7 million in contractual payments; $600,000 to state economic development agencies; $600,000 to M&T Bank and $800,000 in loans from members.
      In addition, court records reveal $1.2 million in lawsuits filed against the organizers.
      "The Grand Prix generated $47 million in economic impact and proved valuable in terms of positive media exposure and civic pride for Baltimore's residents," Rawlings-Blake said. "The event, if conducted responsibly, has significant economic value to potential investors and the city this year and in future years."

      Read more: http://www.wbaltv.com/news/30105743/...#ixzz1i3wuKDUU


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      12-30-2011 07:16 PM #2
      **** YOU!!!!
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      12-30-2011 07:22 PM #3
      Corporations screwing over the little guy (racing fans) once again. Surprise, surprise....

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      12-30-2011 07:25 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
      Corporations screwing over the little guy (racing fans) once again. Surprise, surprise....
      Isn't racing pretty much a massive corporate sponsered event anyways?
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      12-30-2011 07:26 PM #5
      That sucks.

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      12-30-2011 07:28 PM #6
      Sucks but not surprising. Goes down the same road as the DC one. I expected nothing different

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      12-30-2011 10:09 PM #7
      Now I really regret missing it.

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      12-30-2011 10:29 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by morecarsthanbrains View Post
      Sucks but not surprising. Goes down the same road as the DC one. I expected nothing different
      Yup, I saw this one coming. Such a shame

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      12-30-2011 10:30 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
      Corporations screwing over the little guy (racing fans) once again. Surprise, surprise....

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      12-30-2011 10:31 PM #10
      Baltimore turned out to be an unexpectedly nice race venue, actually. I'd be upset if it was Champ Car, but since it's lowly IRL and there's going to be a *real* Grand Prix up in Jersey/Manhattan starting in 2013, I've no problem seeing it taken off the calendar.

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      12-30-2011 11:00 PM #11
      such a shame.
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    12. 12-30-2011 11:18 PM #12
      I live just outside of Baltimore. Let me tell you this, Baltimore politics are embarrassing to the human race. Let me set this up with fact:

      Our last mayor was indicted for theft. During which, her married boyfriend was on trial for being crooked, and the ENTIRE city council was being investigated for one thing or another. They lie about the crime rate, taxes, and anything else that suits their immediate needs. Keep that in mind . . .

      I have not read the specifics of the problem. But, I am not surprised that Baltimore politicians, for whatever reasons, could not work out a deal that would benefit the image and welfare of the people who live in the city.

      They should have never wasted their time.

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      12-30-2011 11:50 PM #13
      Omar comin'.

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      12-31-2011 01:46 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by veedub87 View Post
      Baltimore turned out to be an unexpectedly nice race venue, actually. I'd be upset if it was Champ Car, but since it's lowly IRL and there's going to be a *real* Grand Prix up in Jersey/Manhattan starting in 2013, I've no problem seeing it taken off the calendar.
      jersey/manhattan won't even get to the "owing you money" stage that Baltimore did by staging a single event...

      Hoboken grand prix just doesn't have "it"...

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      12-31-2011 02:24 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Jordan 191 View Post
      Omar comin'.
      The Baltimore Mayor should hire Omar to get the owed cash.
      He'd get it, for sure.

    16. 12-31-2011 02:38 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by LhW View Post
      I live just outside of Baltimore. Let me tell you this, Baltimore politics are embarrassing to the human race. Let me set this up with fact:

      Our last mayor was indicted for theft. During which, her married boyfriend was on trial for being crooked, and the ENTIRE city council was being investigated for one thing or another. They lie about the crime rate, taxes, and anything else that suits their immediate needs. Keep that in mind . . .

      I have not read the specifics of the problem. But, I am not surprised that Baltimore politicians, for whatever reasons, could not work out a deal that would benefit the image and welfare of the people who live in the city.

      They should have never wasted their time.
      exactly. I saw it on the news today. the race brought $47 million to the city in revenue. The city says the business still owes them ~1.4 mil for taxes (250k), parking fees(50k), race venue permits(900k), and some other misc crap. I call total BS, the city is just so damn greedy its absurd they would do this. I blame the largely democratic state of MD as well as the city of Balt.

      The roads were redone but even then, they still thrashed and bashed the cars they were still so terrible. bet the roads cost race teams serious dough


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      I do regret not going now as well. My figures above are a bit off, but the total amount owed to the city is close and the revenue is too, just didnt include the vendor repayment and the rest of that junk.
      My best thread topic ever I've contributed to TCL earlier this year (you could say I was just the first to post it):

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      12-31-2011 02:50 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by LhW View Post
      I live just outside of Baltimore. Let me tell you this, Baltimore politics are embarrassing to the human race. Let me set this up with fact:

      Our last mayor was indicted for theft. During which, her married boyfriend was on trial for being crooked, and the ENTIRE city council was being investigated for one thing or another. They lie about the crime rate, taxes, and anything else that suits their immediate needs. Keep that in mind . . .

      I have not read the specifics of the problem. But, I am not surprised that Baltimore politicians, for whatever reasons, could not work out a deal that would benefit the image and welfare of the people who live in the city.

      They should have never wasted their time.
      So The Wire WAS a documentary!

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      12-31-2011 02:54 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by The Holy Molar View Post
      So The Wire WAS a documentary!
      pretty damned close.

    19. 12-31-2011 02:56 AM #19
      Never heard of it.

    20. 12-31-2011 02:58 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by LhW View Post
      I live just outside of Baltimore. Let me tell you this, Baltimore politics are embarrassing to the human race. Let me set this up with fact:

      Our last mayor was indicted for theft. During which, her married boyfriend was on trial for being crooked, and the ENTIRE city council was being investigated for one thing or another. They lie about the crime rate, taxes, and anything else that suits their immediate needs. Keep that in mind . . .

      I have not read the specifics of the problem. But, I am not surprised that Baltimore politicians, for whatever reasons, could not work out a deal that would benefit the image and welfare of the people who live in the city.

      They should have never wasted their time.
      Must be some real idiots to elect someone with a hyphenated last name.

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      12-31-2011 03:16 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Corbic View Post
      Must be some real idiots to elect someone with a hyphenated last name.
      This just in: Maryland surpasses (other states that you didn't know were into racing.)
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      12-31-2011 08:21 AM #22
      Figures. I couldn't get off work to go this year and I was going to go next year. Way to go Baltimore. Same thing that happened with the DC race except IIRC they cancelled that due to noise complaints.

      Going to watch The Wire the rest of the day now.

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      12-31-2011 08:32 AM #23
      And this area gets screwed over yet again having sportscar racing. !@!@#!!! See Washington DC Grand Prix that had BIG attendance, but the promoters went belly-up as well.

      The more serious note is what this means for the ALMS. THAT part has me concerned and I'm hoping that they have a back up plan so we don't have a HUGE gap before PLM in the schedule.

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      12-31-2011 08:53 AM #25
      The city is stepping over a dollar to get a dime.

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      12-31-2011 09:57 AM #26
      I love it. Still on page one and the blame should really be the political leaders and democrats
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      12-31-2011 10:30 AM #27
      What was the line from the Simpsons? "Uh, there's a $1000 leaving town tax"

      Anyway, I had a ball. Hopefully it's still on for Belle Isle next year, that's a tick closer to me.

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      Gotta love Maryland, Chasing away another company that was bringing the state revenue.
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      12-31-2011 11:07 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
      Corporations screwing over the little guy (racing fans) once again. Surprise, surprise....
      Perhaps you little guys should just pay for the entire event yourself rather than counting on corporations to foot most of the bill.

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      12-31-2011 12:23 PM #31
      My bud couldn't stop making The Wire jokes when we went to the ALMS race. Happy TCL didn't disappoint either.
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      12-31-2011 12:27 PM #32
      Avon got this. Don't worry, a few calls on this race is back on except that the grand prize will be crack instead of a check.

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      12-31-2011 12:41 PM #33
      Great, now motorsports in Baltimore is limited to dirt bike wheelies on downtown surface streets again.

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      12-31-2011 12:44 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      Perhaps you little guys should just pay for the entire event yourself rather than counting on corporations to foot most of the bill.
      Already got that angle covered
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      12-31-2011 12:49 PM #35
      DC did the same thing. They reelected Marion Barry like 10 times. I think he is still an elected official in some capacity. Baltimore is very much like it.

      My favorite is when I drive to visit my fiances parents in AA county. I drive through DC, hope on 50 and drive towards Annapolis. I have to drive through PG county (every day there are 4 murders) and their welcome sign cracks me up. It was "a livable community" and now its "on the way to greatness."

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