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    Thread: Fuel filter change on 07 MK5?

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      12-31-2011 02:15 AM #1
      Recently got a 2007 MK5 GTI 2.0L FSI and have been searching for more info about the change interval for the fuel filter and so far all I have found is that people on forums recommend to change it around 60,000km (40,000miles I think) however did not notice anything about it on an online service manual for my car (have yet to check my manual in the car)

      Anyways just looking for opinions.

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      12-31-2011 09:05 AM #2
      According to Bentley, "Fuel filters for gasoline engines do not have a specified replacement interval [...] they should be replaced as conditions and/or situations dictate." Lots of help, huh?

      For what it's worth, the fuel filter on TDI engines needs to be replaced every 20,000 mi / 32,000 km, but that's a completely different matter.

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      12-31-2011 11:46 AM #3
      That's weird that they would not give any time frame at all? I think most other cars do have a time frame as to when it should be changed.

      Oh well I guess when I go check my Cam Follower & probably change it I might as well change the fuel filter at the same time since it's probably never been done before.

      Thanks

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      01-01-2012 09:47 AM #4
      Did mine after 100K on my 2006.5 GTI.
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      01-01-2012 12:33 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by ndccpf1 View Post
      Did mine after 100K on my 2006.5 GTI.
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-Filter-Change
      Wow, that looks dirty.
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      01-01-2012 12:42 PM #6
      Normally, I always recommended having a fuel filter changed every 20-30k just to avoid excessive dirt build up in the filter and strain on the fuel pump. Seen people get over 100k on the original filter, but its not a pretty site. My In-laws had 160k on the original filter on their chevy van, replaced it cause it was leaking

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      01-01-2012 02:01 PM #7
      40k - doing it before wont hurt.
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      01-01-2012 05:20 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Andy P View Post
      40k - doing it before wont hurt.
      and its stupid easy to change, takes all of 5 minutes to change one out

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      01-01-2012 06:12 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Ikey3125 View Post
      and its stupid easy to change, takes all of 5 minutes to change one out
      Well, I'm looking into this at about 43,000 miles on my GLI.

      Bentley says that on a 2.5L, after changing the fuel filter you have to bleed the fuel system before starting the engine -- otherwise the catalytic converter will be damaged. And the bleeding looks a bit complex.

      No such bleeding apparently required on a Turbo 2.0. Anyone know why?

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      01-01-2012 06:29 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Marek K View Post
      Bentley says that on a 2.5L, after changing the fuel filter you have to bleed the fuel system before starting the engine -- otherwise the catalytic converter will be damaged. And the bleeding looks a bit complex.

      No such bleeding apparently required on a Turbo 2.0. Anyone know why?
      My guess (and it's just off the cuff) is that it's because the 2.0 has a dual-stage fuel system and the supply pump is low enough pressure that it won't spurt out. If anyone knows more I'd be curious.
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      01-01-2012 06:36 PM #11
      I pulled the old one out, installed a new one, then started it up. It took a second or 2 longer than normal to start, but no issues.

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      05-27-2013 02:19 PM #12
      I just replaced the fuel filter on my 2009 GLI at about 55,000 mi.

      Actually went much more easier than I'd thought.

      See this thread:

      http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90764

      I drove the car backward onto a set of ramps in order to have room under the car. Then I waited an hour or two for the fuel pressure to go down in the system. Don't open that driver's door in the meantime!!!

      Like the thread says, you have to be aware that you have to push in the releases on the three fuel lines in order to release them. The blue one on the center inlet is easy to see; the one on the other inlet is black and isn't easy to see. And the one on the outlet is sure enough invisible on the very top of the fitting.

      Fortunately, the two inlet releases pushed in easily with finger pressure. The fuel pressure had gone down enough that there was only a little bit of fuel squirting out of the first fitting; I wore goggles and used a rag to catch the squirting fuel. A bit dribbled out of each fitting after that, which I caught with a plastic bowl. I used the plastic caps from the new filter to cap off each inlet and outlet as I took off the lines, and then drained the rest of the fuel out of the old filter. The fuel inside the old filter was actually pretty clean.

      Be careful -- I got some fuel under my watch band, and my wrist is still irritated a few hours later.

      On the outlet fitting, although I could get the release to move slightly with finger pressure, the angle was such that I couldn't press it down far enough to release it that way. So I cut an 8" piece out of a metal coat hanger, and formed the end into a hook which I then reached around the top of the fitting to pull down on the release; and it worked great.

      You have to remove the Phillips-head screw out of the black plastic filter mount to loosen it in order to wiggle the filter out.

      The original stock filter (1K0 201 051 C) was rated for 6.4 bar pressure. The one VW currently sells (1K0 201 051 K), and which I used here, is 6.6 bar. Both made in China. Beware -- I had ordered a Mann fuel filter (WK 69/2) through Amazon, which supposedly "fits" a 2009 GLI, but it was only marked 4.0 bar. Don't know if it would have worked, but I didn't use it.
      Last edited by Marek K; 05-27-2013 at 02:40 PM.

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      05-29-2013 09:43 AM #13
      Update to my post above:

      I really didn't think changing the fuel filter in my GLI would make much difference, particular seeing as the fuel inside the old filter looked perfectly fine.

      But wow, after a couple days, what a difference. I'd had some slowly-worsening issues with throttle response, particularly at low speed -- starting from a stop while engaging the clutch, or accelerating at low speed in gear. The car would bog a bit and then surge, unless I modulated the clutch and gave more throttle than I really should.

      Those problems immediately went away after the fuel filter change.

      This was at 55,000 miles. I think I'm going to have to start changing the fuel filter at about 40,000.

      OBTW... anyone know what the pressure rating means on the filter? Is that the pressure that the filter will allow through? Does it make a difference in these cars? What if I had used the lower prssure rating filter from Mann?
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      05-29-2013 09:48 AM #14
      Thanks for the update; might do a filter on my 2.5 soon. Interesting that you noticed such a difference.

      Did your 6.6 bar Chinese-made filter come from the dealer?
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      05-29-2013 11:32 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by mhjett View Post
      Thanks for the update; might do a filter on my 2.5 soon. Interesting that you noticed such a difference.

      Did your 6.6 bar Chinese-made filter come from the dealer?
      Yeah, I absolutely wasn't expecting to notice any difference at all. I basically just changed the fuel filter as preventive maintenance. Though I'd noticed the low-speed throttle issues, I thought it was just natural aging of the car.

      The Chinese-made 6.6-bar filter came from 1stvwparts.com, which is Auburn VW in Washington State.

      On ECS Tuning, you can see in the images that their UFI and VW filters are made in China too; I'd bet their Mann one is as well. All 6.6 bar.

      And when I took off the original filter, it really surprise me to see that it had been made in China too.

      China is perfectly capable of manufacturing perfectly good parts and products. When they're intended for export to The West.

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      05-29-2013 12:40 PM #16
      I wonder if the high-pressure fuel system in the direct-injected 2.0t engine is more sensitive to dirty fuel filters... Also, who knows but maybe the 6.6 bar filter flows better than the 6.4 and that's what you're feeling.

      I agree that China can make decent stuff, but they can also make some real crap. Hopefully a Chinese fuel filter falls into the former category.
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      05-29-2013 09:17 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Stone-Jetta View Post
      When should it be done on a 2.5l?
      The Warranty and Maintenance booklet (where's yours? ) only specifies fuel filter replacement with TDI engines -- every 20,000 miles. No mention at all regarding gasoline engines.

      My Bentley Manual describes fuel filter changes for all engines under the Maintenance chapter, but again no interval mentioned for gasoline engines.

    19. 08-06-2013 12:57 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Marek K View Post
      The Warranty and Maintenance booklet (where's yours? ) only specifies fuel filter replacement with TDI engines -- every 20,000 miles. No mention at all regarding gasoline engines.

      My Bentley Manual describes fuel filter changes for all engines under the Maintenance chapter, but again no interval mentioned for gasoline engines.
      Hi, Marek, I am also thinking to replace the fuel filter on my MKV Rabbit. What I am concerned is how to do the fuel line bleeding after installation of new fuel filter. The Bentley Manual refers a must to do so, otherwise it causes some damage. I do appreciate if you have any experience to share.

      Thanks!

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      08-06-2013 04:05 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by hmirly View Post
      Hi, Marek, I am also thinking to replace the fuel filter on my MKV Rabbit. What I am concerned is how to do the fuel line bleeding after installation of new fuel filter. The Bentley Manual refers a must to do so, otherwise it causes some damage. I do appreciate if you have any experience to share.

      Thanks!
      I didn't bleed anything when I did mine at 40k. Just disconnected the lines and popped the new one in. Didn't notice anything weird, all I did was open the fuel cap.


      Also this thread is reminding me that I'm coming up on 80k and need to do it again soon.

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      08-06-2013 07:25 PM #21
      I changed my fuel filter for the 2nd time about a month ago or so. I popped on the new filter turned the key to 1 position before cranking to build fuel pressure did it 1 or 2 more times and it started fine. No issues.

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      08-29-2013 12:11 PM #22
      I've had a filter in my trunk for the longest time. Guess since I'm over 100k it's about time I tackle this. I just bought one from the dealership; unless you're making big power no need to change anything about your fuel filter (that is 6.6bar vs 6.4)

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      10-08-2013 03:28 PM #23
      just got my amazon 1K0201051K "new" filter and same thing, 4.0 bar, a tad bit upset that amazon doesnt really mark the rating at all.. time to do more research.

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      10-08-2013 03:36 PM #24
      anyone know if amazon has the 6.6? i cant find it

    25. 10-08-2013 03:39 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by texasmkv View Post
      just got my amazon 1K0201051K "new" filter and same thing, 4.0 bar, a tad bit upset that amazon doesnt really mark the rating at all.. time to do more research.
      Return that piece of crap and get this

      http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

      It's sold by an actual VW dealer. You get the invoice with the package if you keep your receipts in a service book like I do. It's a genuine VW part and the updated 6.6 bar one. Couldn't have been happier.
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      10-08-2013 03:46 PM #26
      thanks! just found it too and was about to update the thread (called them to double check but havent heard back)

      ordering now! yay!

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      10-08-2013 03:47 PM #27
      well shoot, only $5 cheaper then @ vw.. lol

      ** haha and now I clearly see the filter picture with "4.0 Bar" on it, gg
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      10-08-2013 06:24 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by texasmkv View Post
      just got my amazon 1K0201051K "new" filter and same thing, 4.0 bar, a tad bit upset that amazon doesnt really mark the rating at all.
      Is this the one you ordered?

      http://www.amazon.com/1k0201051k-1K0...ter+1K0201051K

      Because it sure as hell is supposed to be 1K0201051K. Is it marked that way on the actual filter too? Because the 1K0201051K I installed above was 6.6 bar.

      In some of the photos of some of the filters that Amazon offers, you can see the pressure rating. But I'm not sure I'd trust the photos, either.

      Quote Originally Posted by the snake 87 View Post
      Return that piece of crap
      It's not a "piece of crap;" I believe it's the filter for a 2.5, not a GLI/GTI.

      Though it's probably a good idea to order from a VW dealer who knows what they're doing...

    29. 10-09-2013 09:04 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Marek K View Post
      Is this the one you ordered?

      http://www.amazon.com/1k0201051k-1K0...ter+1K0201051K

      Because it sure as hell is supposed to be 1K0201051K. Is it marked that way on the actual filter too? Because the 1K0201051K I installed above was 6.6 bar.

      In some of the photos of some of the filters that Amazon offers, you can see the pressure rating. But I'm not sure I'd trust the photos, either.



      It's not a "piece of crap;" I believe it's the filter for a 2.5, not a GLI/GTI.

      Though it's probably a good idea to order from a VW dealer who knows what they're doing...
      Sorry it was kind of an in the moment thing, I know its not a piece of crap, but it isn't the right filter for the 2.5L regardless. But the one I linked is OEM from a VW dealer who also sells on Amazon. Cant go wrong lol
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      I went to the dealer just yesterday to start my rust warranty and I figured I'd order the filter while I was there. nI got the "lifetime" bull speech too ...

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      10-09-2013 01:50 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by the snake 87 View Post
      I know its not a piece of crap, but it isn't the right filter for the 2.5L regardless.
      I had no problem with your choice of words ... I was saying that the 4.0 bar filter is for the 2.5L engine (as opposed to the 2.0T, whether FSI or TSI):

      http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...ter/ES1928879/

      The part number for the 4.0 bar filter is apparently 6Q0201051J.

      OK, I'm not saying that ECS Tuning is infallible... but I trust them a lot more than a generic Amazon vendor (VW dealers excepted).

      Problem is, aside from the pressure rating, the two types of filters are physically identical, and I'm sure can be installed in either car. Which would cause serious problems either way if they're wrong...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Marek K View Post

      Yep! Returned the 4 bar one today, this ones already shipped Time to get sprayed with gas twice

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      10-10-2013 06:22 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by texasmkv View Post
      Yep! Returned the 4 bar one today
      Did you happen to notice what the actual part number was on the 4.0 bar filter you returned? Because as far as can tell, 1K0 201 051 K should be the newest 6.6 bar filter for the GLI/GTI -- that's what mine was.

      The Amazon listing says 1K0 201 051 K, and you can just make out "1K..." on the first image. But you can't see the stamped pressure rating on the inlet end of the filter.

      Again as far as I can tell, the 4.0 bar filter should be 6Q0 201 051 J.

      Wouldn't be the first time the wrong part number and/or image is listed on a web site...

    34. 10-10-2013 11:46 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Marek K View Post
      Did you happen to notice what the actual part number was on the 4.0 bar filter you returned? Because as far as can tell, 1K0 201 051 K should be the newest 6.6 bar filter for the GLI/GTI -- that's what mine was.

      The Amazon listing says 1K0 201 051 K, and you can just make out "1K..." on the first image. But you can't see the stamped pressure rating on the inlet end of the filter.

      Again as far as I can tell, the 4.0 bar filter should be 6Q0 201 051 J.

      Wouldn't be the first time the wrong part number and/or image is listed on a web site...
      I thought the 1K0 one was for the 2.5L? I did some researching before I bought mine and everywhere I looked it said the 1K0 6.6bar one was the right one and all the others were wrong.
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