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      01-06-2012 11:57 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by XiaoNio View Post


      This is in no way a PR. But the reality is that my jerks have been pretty crummy lately, so I consider it progress that this one looks tolerably good. Also, you guys can check out the digs at my new gym.
      nice dude. althought your consistant use of KG's always confuses me a bit.

      was tired yesterday but hit 405 for deads for a bunch of heavy singles. seems with my new form popping the weight off the ground isnt an issue at all, its pulling it once it gets knee height. I might swtich over to rack pulls for the next couple months maybe.
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      01-06-2012 01:15 PM #27
      last september i trained my ass off and lost about 20lbs durring my training for the Baltimore Half Marathon. Shortly after that i went on vacation and since then all that **** went out the window. I'm heavier than i've ever been and not happy about it. 6'4'' 255lbs.

      Started getting back in to lifting in the past two weeks, & trying REALLY hard to clean up my diet a lot. Less eating out, more healthy snacking etc etc. Trying to maintain my weight while loosing the fat. Hope to post the progress here. After my first week back in the gym, i've never been more sore. I'm going to try like hell to keep it up
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      01-07-2012 03:53 PM #28
      Weighed in pre workout at 161.5 lbs which is not good. Had no plan but to dick around a little bit. Front squatted 155 kg or 341.7 lbs, which is a 5 kg pr.

      Now to just find those missing 7 lbs of body weight.

    4. 01-07-2012 05:40 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by XiaoNio View Post


      This is in no way a PR. But the reality is that my jerks have been pretty crummy lately, so I consider it progress that this one looks tolerably good. Also, you guys can check out the digs at my new gym.
      Any reason why you don't grab the grip you want straight from the rack?

      Also it looks like you dip a little too much before your drive. I've found pause jerks to help quite abit with that
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      01-07-2012 06:35 PM #30
      I rack it as out of a front squat/clean position then transition to a different grip for the jerk. Before I used to just drive the jerk from the clean position and try to move my hands around while the bar was in motion. Ended up with a lot of wrist hyper extension so I switched to using an intermediate grip recently. Either way, I like practicing the transition to get me used to it as if I'm actually doing the full lift.

      As for the dip. I always try to cue myself to do a shorter dip and a quicker drive, but I mentally can't seem to turn it around. Definitely something I'm also working on.

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      01-08-2012 11:18 AM #31
      started lifting at a real gym a few months ago. was using small dumbells and home gym stuff for a few months prior. so far been alternating a 15x3, 8x4, and 5x5 with some max weights x 1-2 thrown in 3 days a week trying to hit all muscle groups. also running 3-5 miles a few days a week with some plyometrics thrown in for cardio with a nice 30mile bike ride thrown in sometimes.

      have a ways to go, my maxes thus far are_
      bench press 215x1
      squat 350x1
      deadlift 330x1

      i can't rep for **** though. need to do more research around here for this stuff

      i'm starting to get to a point though where i'm at a plateau with my bench dead and squat. need to figure something out. i also want to start doing some powerlifting stuff. i'm aiming for power and explosiveness. i want to dunk! my gym doesn't allow bouncing weights and is super tiny so i've kinda been putting it off

      the best news for me though is i'm down to 200 from 240. 2012 i want to see my abs
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    7. 01-08-2012 12:13 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by ienjoysnails View Post
      started lifting at a real gym a few months ago. was using small dumbells and home gym stuff for a few months prior. so far been alternating a 15x3, 8x4, and 5x5 with some max weights x 1-2 thrown in 3 days a week trying to hit all muscle groups. also running 3-5 miles a few days a week with some plyometrics thrown in for cardio with a nice 30mile bike ride thrown in sometimes.

      have a ways to go, my maxes thus far are_
      bench press 215x1
      squat 350x1
      deadlift 330x1

      i can't rep for **** though. need to do more research around here for this stuff

      i'm starting to get to a point though where i'm at a plateau with my bench dead and squat. need to figure something out. i also want to start doing some powerlifting stuff. i'm aiming for power and explosiveness. i want to dunk! my gym doesn't allow bouncing weights and is super tiny so i've kinda been putting it off

      the best news for me though is i'm down to 200 from 240. 2012 i want to see my abs
      Does not compute.

      Anyway, if you want to increase your vertical, I'm not sure powerlifting is your best option.
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      01-08-2012 02:31 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by spoolin215 View Post
      Does not compute.

      Anyway, if you want to increase your vertical, I'm not sure powerlifting is your best option.
      most of the popular workouts i've read or been told for jumping higher usually has some powerlifting worked in to help with explosive power. alot of squatting and plyometrics also.

      yea the gym sucks i admit in terms of their etiquette rules but its cheap and when i work out there isn't 90 people getting in my way or staring at me. the bouncing rule is lame but i'll figure it out

    9. 01-08-2012 03:24 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by ienjoysnails View Post
      most of the popular workouts i've read or been told for jumping higher usually has some powerlifting worked in to help with explosive power. alot of squatting and plyometrics also.

      yea the gym sucks i admit in terms of their etiquette rules but its cheap and when i work out there isn't 90 people getting in my way or staring at me. the bouncing rule is lame but i'll figure it out
      There is a big difference between "doing some squats" and power lifting. Not to mention most powerlifting programs call for low bar squatting which I don't think is as beneficial for increasing vertical as high bar is.

      Anyway you'd have much more success with power cleans and snatches.
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      01-08-2012 05:51 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by spoolin215 View Post
      There is a big difference between "doing some squats" and power lifting. Not to mention most powerlifting programs call for low bar squatting which I don't think is as beneficial for increasing vertical as high bar is.

      Anyway you'd have much more success with power cleans and snatches.
      yea the power cleans and snatches are on my todo list. i'm working on the right plan yet. i'll get it right

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      01-08-2012 06:31 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by spoolin215 View Post
      There is a big difference between "doing some squats" and power lifting. Not to mention most powerlifting programs call for low bar squatting which I don't think is as beneficial for increasing vertical as high bar is.

      Anyway you'd have much more success with power cleans and snatches.
      meh, consider the ROI though. Time depending I think a bit of both are the best bet, but if we're talking bang for the buck in a short period of time a power-esque style of training would be the best bet.
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    12. 01-08-2012 07:40 PM #37
      Done right I don't think Olympic weightlifting is any more dangerous than anything else. And the mobility development is definitely way better than powerlifting.
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      01-08-2012 09:18 PM #38
      For what it's worth, I don't jump any higher now than I did before I started weight training or even Olympic lifting. Unless you're really weak, I think specificity and jumping technique are way more important. Or basically that you're going to have to train jumping at least as much as you train with weights.

      So Snails, how high are you currently jumping?

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      01-08-2012 09:25 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by spoolin215 View Post
      Done right I don't think Olympic weightlifting is any more dangerous than anything else. And the mobility development is definitely way better than powerlifting.
      Mobility has nothing to do with the actual training; it would be a bi-product of PROPER training in an un-injured format. You're a coach, how many clients come to you injury free, without muscle imbalances; tight piriformis, hip flexors, etc.? I didn't mention injury, but teaching the Oly lifts are much harder (properly) than training power lifts. FWIW my vertical has increased about 2" since my squat has gone up 75lbs; totally a personal experience but I literally do zero jump training and train strictly for power.
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      01-08-2012 09:41 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by XiaoNio View Post
      For what it's worth, I don't jump any higher now than I did before I started weight training or even Olympic lifting. Unless you're really weak, I think specificity and jumping technique are way more important. Or basically that you're going to have to train jumping at least as much as you train with weights.

      So Snails, how high are you currently jumping?
      i just occurred to me i've been misusing 'power lifting' when i really meant to be saying 'olympic' weightlifting. noob mistake. anywhere i said power in previous posts insert olympic. my mistake

      to answer your question in terms of exact height i don't know. almost rim . i've been lazy about creating a way to test it without one of those pro jump height checking thingers.

      i will tell you so far i feel alot stronger on my approach and takeoff and can get more net than i ever did. from what i can tell i'm still about 5 full inches from just touching rim so i've got a looonggg ways to go from dunking.

      i've literally just scratched the surface of the olympic type weight training. in my og post i alluded to not yet trying it due to my gyms lack of the right plates and their etiquette rules. i'm working on that however by buying a bar and plates on my own shortly. i have however been doing plyometrics/jumping exercises for the past 3 months in addition to my regular lifting routine.

      i'm kinda still learning. i've literally been serious about his for about 4 months now. i'm working on getting a new workout layout together to bust through the plateaus i feel like i'm at so everyones input helps tremendously.
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      01-09-2012 07:24 AM #41
      so been taking it easy the last few weeks, besides small injuries, holiday fatting etc, so yesterday was a proper day back and was dreading the loss of strength ... to my surprise does not appear I lost any at all, did not go crazy on the big compound lifts (DL primarily for back day yesterday) but was shocked at my secondary end-of-session workouts doing dumb bell rows ... actually hit a new max 3x8x85lbs ... could not believe it. Wife hit her new max on DL @ 185x4 .. pretty funny that I was using the same weights as her for my first DL day in prob 5 weeks.

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      01-09-2012 08:30 AM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by chaugner View Post
      so been taking it easy the last few weeks, besides small injuries, holiday fatting etc, so yesterday was a proper day back and was dreading the loss of strength ... to my surprise does not appear I lost any at all, did not go crazy on the big compound lifts (DL primarily for back day yesterday) but was shocked at my secondary end-of-session workouts doing dumb bell rows ... actually hit a new max 3x8x85lbs ... could not believe it. Wife hit her new max on DL @ 185x4 .. pretty funny that I was using the same weights as her for my first DL day in prob 5 weeks.
      jesus chirst your wife deadlifts 185 for reps lets see some pics of this lovely lady

      its awesome to go back and your numbers havent fallen off nearly as bad as you thought.
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      01-09-2012 08:50 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by ClockworkChad View Post
      jesus chirst your wife deadlifts 185 for reps lets see some pics of this lovely lady

      its awesome to go back and your numbers havent fallen off nearly as bad as you thought.
      I'll try to convince her for a dead lift video next week "to observe form" haha

    19. 01-09-2012 08:53 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by .Mad Hatter. View Post
      FWIW my vertical has increased about 2" since my squat has gone up 75lbs; totally a personal experience but I literally do zero jump training and train strictly for power.
      I think squatting plays an important role in just about every kind of training though, jump training included. As Xiao eluded to, specificity of training is crucial, however less developed trainees will see adaptation from non specific training. Dr. Zatrosky talks a lot about this stuff in Science and Practice of strength training. Pretty good read if you haven't checked it out already.
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      01-09-2012 10:29 PM #45
      Wife DL tonight at 245x3

      Not great form but still got it up (lolzthatswhatshesaid)

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      01-09-2012 10:30 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by chaugner View Post
      I'll try to convince her for a dead lift video next week "to observe form" haha


      Its fun to get the wifes to do this and it makes all the guys go
      Mine also does single arm rows 70x10

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      01-10-2012 07:21 AM #47
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      Its fun to get the wifes to do this and it makes all the guys go
      Mine also does single arm rows 70x10
      hah so true ... we were doing single arm rows, and she was getting up looking for weights, 2 guys working out asked her "you looking for the 15's?" - "she said no" and kept on going until she found the 50lbs ... they were like "oh snap, never mind" and she pulled 8 reps @ 50.

      Its hilarious when you see big guys doing DL with a single plate, and she steps up, does a quick warm up, and throws on the same weight for reps for a few consequitive sets hah

      So I guess this may turn into the "wife's progress" thread here very soon

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      01-10-2012 08:13 AM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by chaugner View Post
      hah so true ... we were doing single arm rows, and she was getting up looking for weights, 2 guys working out asked her "you looking for the 15's?" - "she said no" and kept on going until she found the 50lbs ... they were like "oh snap, never mind" and she pulled 8 reps @ 50.

      Its hilarious when you see big guys doing DL with a single plate, and she steps up, does a quick warm up, and throws on the same weight for reps for a few consequitive sets hah

      So I guess this may turn into the "wife's progress" thread here very soon
      yea lets get some pics. there was a girl on tnation that deadlifted like 315 that i thought was super hot.
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      01-10-2012 08:53 AM #49
      rumor is that my gym may be closing, apparently they arent allowing anyone to sign up for the year memberships anymore. i dont want to switch again!
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      01-10-2012 10:00 AM #50
      currently in my second week of 5x5 training for bench. trying to work my 3 rep max up.. successfully completed my last 3 sets with 215 which i felt pretty good about. progressing slowly

      here is a current pic of me , about 185 or so .. would like to stay lean but get up to 190 this winter



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