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    Thread: Odd Resto-mod Build 1984 diesel Ford Ranger

    1. 01-14-2012 03:20 PM #26
      Yes.

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      It's kept me busy, to say the least.
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      01-14-2012 03:22 PM #27
      Engine sounds great:
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    3. 01-14-2012 03:22 PM #28
      I like the before AND after pics. A sweet-looking truck all-around, but does it bug anyone else when they don't scrub the blue stuff off white-lettered tires?
      Last edited by InfraRedline; 01-14-2012 at 03:25 PM.

    4. 01-14-2012 03:31 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by InfraRedline View Post
      I like the before AND after pics. A sweet-looking truck all-around, but does it bug anyone else when they don't scrub the blue stuff off white-lettered tires?
      Probably just got the tires.
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      I'm convinced you commuted through a salt mine.
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      My take on fixing a rotten mk3.

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      01-14-2012 03:57 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      "My ____ was even slower than a loaded garbage truck" What an awesome car."

      Can you explain what you mean by awesome in this context?
      I bet you I could get it to do a burnout

      I meant that cars this slow, are awesome, teaches you a hell of a lot about trying to keep a massive object rolling. stop signs, on-ramps, everything becomes a challenge.

      the truck looks pretty sweet as well.

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      01-14-2012 04:00 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by HideYoKids View Post
      I bet you I could get it to do a burnout
      Front wheel drive burnouts are so awesome.

      I meant that cars this slow, are awesome, teaches you a hell of a lot about trying to keep a massive object rolling. stop signs, on-ramps, everything becomes a challenge..
      Ok.. I guess you could say they are awesome at keeping you aware of your surroundings.
      I definitively have to stay aware in my slow "diesel like" 300 6 F-150.
      (145 hp @ 3400 rpm, 265 ft-lbs. @ 2000 rpm)
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    8. 01-14-2012 04:07 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Bariman82 View Post
      Probably just got the tires.
      The tech who installs the tires is supposed to scrub the blue sticky soapy stuff off. It's there to protect the white stuff during shipment and storage.

    9. 01-14-2012 04:09 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Front wheel drive burnouts are so awesome.



      Ok.. I guess you could say they are awesome at keeping you aware of your surroundings.
      I definitively have to stay aware in my slow "diesel like" 300 6 F-150.
      (145 hp @ 3400 rpm, 265 ft-lbs. @ 2000 rpm)
      My dad had a couple F150 300s and now my mom has one. They are not that slow in any normal driving. You just won't get anything resembling a rush to the redline. Compared to the ranger in this thread, you're piloting an F16.

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      01-14-2012 04:21 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by InfraRedline View Post
      My dad had a couple F150 300s and now my mom has one. They are not that slow in any normal driving. You just won't get anything resembling a rush to the redline. Compared to the ranger in this thread, you're piloting an F16.
      Due to gearing, they are actually reasonably quick up to like 30 mph.
      So in normal around town driving they are fine.
      But holy hell don't try and merge into 70 mph traffic from a slow start.
      There is this one idiotic entrance ramp near one of my office's that literally has a 90 degree bend turn right before the merge. In the wet I sometimes unintentionally drift my truck just trying to keep from having to drop down to 2nd gear.
      “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

    11. 01-14-2012 04:31 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Due to gearing, they are actually reasonably quick up to like 30 mph.
      So in normal around town driving they are fine.
      But holy hell don't try and merge into 70 mph traffic from a slow start.
      There is this one idiotic entrance ramp near one of my office's that literally has a 90 degree bend turn right before the merge. In the wet I sometimes unintentionally drift my truck just trying to keep from having to drop down to 2nd gear.
      I hate ramps like that, and the 300 is definitely not fast, but still ...


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      01-14-2012 05:07 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by InfraRedline View Post
      I hate ramps like that, and the 300 is definitely not fast, but still ...

      I honestly don't know if I could daily drive something that slow
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      01-14-2012 06:00 PM #38
      That Ranger is a bit faster than my 1994 S10 diesel, which is heavier and has less HP than the Ford.
      Nice job on the truck. You should get awesome fuel mileage from it, and a lot of miles out of that engine.

      It certainly does take a different skill to drive something under-powered in traffic. You actually have to do some quick mental calculations before passing, or pulling out. Like, flooring it for 5-10 seconds before pulling out to pass, and hoping the person you're passing doesn't decide to be smart, and give it some gas, cause then you're screwed. Of course at that point, if they don't want dents and paint scraped down their car/truck, they usually slow down when you start pulling in anyway.

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      01-14-2012 06:19 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by InfraRedline View Post
      I hate ramps like that, and the 300 is definitely not fast, but still ...

      Automatic?
      4 speed manual?

      I am in 2nd gear before getting through the intersection (5 speed manual).
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    15. 01-14-2012 06:36 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Automatic?
      4 speed manual?

      I am in 2nd gear before getting through the intersection (5 speed manual).
      I've only ever driven 5-speed manuals. Can't remember the axle ratio, but yes I generally start in 2nd.

      The video isn't mine, but here's from the info from the youtube link:
      1992 Ford F150, 4.9L inline 6, M5OD transmission, 2.73 rear end (why?) No major modifications. Surprised it took less then 20 seconds, standard cab, short bed weighted down to 4800 lbs with sandbags for winter.

      Fairly new to driving manual transmission, probably should have shifted a hell of a lot sooner.

      Truck is a eventual candidate for a Cummins 4BT swap if the 4.9L ever craps out
      Good luck waiting for that to happen.

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      01-14-2012 06:41 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by InfraRedline View Post
      I've only ever driven 5-speed manuals. Can't remember the axle ratio, but yes I generally start in 2nd.
      Start in 2nd gear? You have driven the four speed with the super low granny gear 1st.. or a 5 speed with a very low rear end.
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    17. 01-14-2012 06:54 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Start in 2nd gear? You have driven the four speed with the super low granny gear 1st.. or a 5 speed with a very low rear end.
      I'm sure I've driven that 4-speed on the older ones long ago, but my mom's current truck is a 5-speed ~2000. The axle is low, but not some super-low aftermarket thing or anything. First does feel like a granny gear, but I dunno ... I don't drive a lot of trucks and this thing doesn't have a tach so I'm not sure where first tops out or anything. I do drive manuals and have a good sense of mechanical sympathy (especially for my mom's vehicles), so it's not like I'm slipping the clutch a bunch on 2nd gear launches. It's easy to do, and moves off just fine in traffic. Very nice truck - love that motor in a lightish regular cab manual.

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      01-14-2012 10:00 PM #43
      Am i the only one who likes the way that ranger looks in the before pic more than the after? Has a certain charm. Better looking wheels at least IMO.

      There's definately a certain knack needed to pilot super slow vehicles in today's hustle-bustle traffic. The slowest i've driven and owned was my old '83 rabbit 4dr n/a diesel AUTO. Made for some interesting times and a few pissed off fellow motorists!

      The ford 300? I like those. Nifty induction sound. Such a "trucky" engine for lack of a better term.
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      01-15-2012 01:46 AM #44
      Great website.

      I had an '86 Ranger XL as my first vehicle. It had the 2.3 4cyl, not the diesel, but overall almost identical. Brought back some memories.

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      01-15-2012 02:25 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by bustedbucket View Post
      Am i the only one who likes the way that ranger looks in the before pic more than the after? Has a certain charm. Better looking wheels at least IMO.
      I liked the way it was before too. That 0-60 is shockingly slow!!!

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      01-15-2012 03:28 AM #46
      All you fancy-pants people with EFI and 5 speeds attached to their 300s.

      3 speeds and a carb. OG, yo.
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      01-15-2012 05:06 AM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Due to gearing, they are actually reasonably quick up to like 30 mph.
      So in normal around town driving they are fine.
      But holy hell don't try and merge into 70 mph traffic from a slow start.
      There is this one idiotic entrance ramp near one of my office's that literally has a 90 degree bend turn right before the merge. In the wet I sometimes unintentionally drift my truck just trying to keep from having to drop down to 2nd gear.
      Why be afraid to use 2nd gear? I used to daily drive an s10 with the 120 hp 2.8 v6 and a tall geared 5 speed, so I imagine the power to weight is similar to an f-150 with the 300. The key to getting anywhere in a hurry was not being afraid to keep the revs up a bit. I would regularly use 1st gear up to 30 mph and 2nd to 50 in regular driving, which was nowhere near redline.
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      01-15-2012 05:31 AM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Obin Robinson View Post
      LOL! That is a mobile chicane. The truck makes more noise than it does speed.

      obin
      Thats the way the Cruiser is. N/A 3B (90 hp/ 160 ft lb) and H55 5 speed makes for a slow beast. I think it accelerated about the same pace, maybe half a second faster. Still loved it. I made a sticker up on Cafepress for the rear glass for the cars behind me to see: "Slow Diesel- Tailgating wont get me to go any faster."



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      01-15-2012 03:16 PM #49
      Hope to drop a 4bt cummins in my ranger someday.

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      01-15-2012 03:21 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by TrackMagicWS6 View Post
      Hope to drop a 4bt cummins in my ranger someday.
      Okay so I hear this all the time, and I'm stumped.

      Why is the 4BTAA such a popular swap? It's a horrible choice. It's loud, really clattery, and it vibrates the hell out of small chassis like the Ranger, S10, and Tacoma. It also doesn't get great MPG and it has a really narrow powerband.

      What's the appeal? Am I missing something?
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