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    Thread: 10,000 miles or 12 month oil change

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      01-14-2012 09:16 PM #1
      Do any of you really drive 10,000 miles between oil changes?
      Even with the synthetics this seems to be a lot of mies between oil changes.

      Just wondering

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      01-14-2012 09:24 PM #2
      On my 09 GLI I did nothing outside the prescribed included ones and the car was rock slid. Never one issue at all the last 3 years. I expect nothing different on my new passat given that my last car was the TSI turbo and would be tougher on oil then the 2.5L se passat I got last night.

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      01-14-2012 09:29 PM #3
      I was talking to a VW/Audi enthusiast in my office about this yesterday: he thought 10,000 miles was perfectly reasonable given the use of synthetic oil. I'm coming from a world of every three months or 3,000 miles, with a healthy dose of Catholic guilt served up at 3,750 miles.

      It's still pretty early on with the B7, anyone have any real world experience with other models? I'm particularly curious about TDIs.
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      01-14-2012 09:54 PM #4
      I remember when naysayers were telling us TDI guys that 10k drains were nonsense 10 years ago. Heck, even the dealer told me I should come in at 2500, 5000, 10k, 15k, etc. But countless oil analyses have proven the oils hold up fine beyond 10k, even with the additional soot loading by TDIs. I think the 2.5 would be fine... not nearly as much abuse to the oil as from a 2.0T or TDI.

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      01-15-2012 12:53 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Stealth_TDI View Post
      I remember when naysayers were telling us TDI guys that 10k drains were nonsense 10 years ago. Heck, even the dealer told me I should come in at 2500, 5000, 10k, 15k, etc. But countless oil analyses have proven the oils hold up fine beyond 10k, even with the additional soot loading by TDIs. I think the 2.5 would be fine... not nearly as much abuse to the oil as from a 2.0T or TDI.
      Don't have a TDI, yet, but on my 2.0T I change the oil every 10,000 miles with Mobil 1 0w40, just like the book says..

      I have 168,800 miles on my car, and it doesn't even use a quart of oil between changes..

      So in my opinion 10,000 miles between changes, with the CORRECT oil is very doable..
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      01-15-2012 01:16 AM #6
      yep and the TSI I just gave back ate almost zero oil and was a vast improvement to the FSI. I would not worry at all about the 2.5L, my GLI was my 1st german car and I was pretty nervous after having 3 Japanese made cars that were actually made in Japan. The GLI exceed those in reliability not one issue not one squeak. Looking forward to the same from the passat now!

    7. 01-15-2012 11:50 AM #7
      I lease - so I'll just do as they say

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      01-15-2012 04:41 PM #8
      There are massive threads in other forums about the 3,000 mile myth. I follow the schedule recommended by the engineers who built the engine and the car so it'll be one year between oil changes for me (I'm a low mileage driver).

      The lifetime engine coolant (no change interval specified) has to make you nervous I guess?

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      01-15-2012 06:50 PM #9


      Quote Originally Posted by mknieri View Post
      The lifetime engine coolant (no change interval specified) has to make you nervous I guess?
      No such thing since they know the coolant will be drained when a prudent owner replaces the water pump during time timing belt change or a thermostat replacement. I can't speak to today's requirements; but my car supposedly had "lifetime" tranny oil. Yeah, right. I change it every 100k (I'm at 380k now). I may start changing it every 60k with the timing belt.

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      07-28-2012 12:04 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Stealth_TDI View Post
      I remember when naysayers were telling us TDI guys that 10k drains were nonsense 10 years ago. Heck, even the dealer told me I should come in at 2500, 5000, 10k, 15k, etc. But countless oil analyses have proven the oils hold up fine beyond 10k, even with the additional soot loading by TDIs. I think the 2.5 would be fine... not nearly as much abuse to the oil as from a 2.0T or TDI.
      This is my first diesel and first turbocharged engine so I was wondering if I needed to do the 5k that everybody with turbos says is a good idea. I've done 10k intervals for the last decade on my Audi A4, Audi A6, Audi Q7, Porsche Cayenne, VW Toaureg with no problems... in fact, my Q7 has 152,000 miles on it with 10k intervals but it's a 4.2 V8 with no turbo. Sounds like this engine is no different and I should trust the product engineers that set the 10k interval. My old BMW 328 had some deal that analyzed the oil and the first change wasn't until 17k miles.
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      07-28-2012 02:42 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by markitzero View Post
      This is my first diesel and first turbocharged engine so I was wondering if I needed to do the 5k that everybody with turbos says is a good idea. I've done 10k intervals for the last decade on my Audi A4, Audi A6, Audi Q7, Porsche Cayenne, VW Toaureg with no problems... in fact, my Q7 has 152,000 miles on it with 10k intervals but it's a 4.2 V8 with no turbo. Sounds like this engine is no different and I should trust the product engineers that set the 10k interval. My old BMW 328 had some deal that analyzed the oil and the first change wasn't until 17k miles.
      IMO 10k is fine if using VW approved synthetic. It's important to check oil level regularly w turbos and top off as needed.
      With turbos it's recommended to let them warm up before real spirited driving and to let them cool down before shutting down. You can cool down by taking it easy on the throttle for the last couple of miles of any trip.

      I've owned a 1.8t, 2.0t and 2.7t in the last 8 years and never had an issue with turbo life.
      That being said, I run a European full synthetic oil (Elf) vs. the Castrol blended stuff dealers use. I found my oil consumption was reduced by the switch to the euro oil which has higher standards and ratings than US oils.

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      07-29-2012 11:09 AM #12
      I was going to do changes every 10K on our new TDI, but decided on 5K changes since our dealer does oil, filter, and tire rotation every 5k for only $50 a visit. (Yes, that is using correct VW synthetic oil and filter.)
      Last edited by ColoradoDriver; 07-29-2012 at 08:35 PM.

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      07-29-2012 07:27 PM #13
      I started to do my own oil changes when 3K was a brave new world, and some people changed every thousand with non-detergent oil. I remember gas stations with glass bottles with metal funnels on top racked up beside the pumps at gas stations- because so many people routinely had to pour in one or more quarts of oil with a tank of fuel, engines consumed so much.

      I am 68 years old, and times have changed.

      The 3K oil change belongs to the past now. The UOA (Used Oil Analysis), available to anyone for very reasonable rates, proves conclusively that modern synthetic oils WILL go the distance. Follow the manufacturer's recommendations for O&F changes. In fact, UOAs offer some evidence that changing oils too frequently may actually produce negative results.

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      07-30-2012 02:05 AM #14
      4K on my B7 TDI. I've been checking it weekly - hasn't used a drop so far.
      I'm going with the OEM recommendations on this baby.
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      08-14-2012 04:31 PM #15
      Just got the 10k service done on our TDI SEL and the old oil looked very clean. I plan to stick with the manufacturer's recommendations for routine maintenance. Of course I'll continue to keep an eye on the levels.
      I forgot to ask the dealer how much ad-blue solution was needed to top it off.

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      08-14-2012 04:56 PM #16
      In two weeks I will have had my car a full year and it has 7k on it. I talked to my friend(VW Mechanic) about changing the oil before i hit 10k and he said not to worry about it unless the car was sitting for a prolong period.

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      08-14-2012 05:00 PM #17
      Were you able to ascertain just WHAT a "prolonged time" is?
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      08-14-2012 05:22 PM #18
      IMO, if you change the filter the oil could make 10k with no problem

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      08-14-2012 06:39 PM #19
      I am very worried about what I should do as well. My Passat 2.5 has 4500 miles on it and I am thinking I may do 5k only because I drive very short distances to work. In the cold months, my cars actually never reache full operating temp before I get to work. My wifes Jetta 2.5 is in the same situation. She drives less miles per year than I do. Would you guys still suggest 10k in this situation?

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      08-14-2012 07:12 PM #20
      That is known as SEVERE SERVICE..... most all car makers list a shorter OCI for severe service.
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