Do any of you really drive 10,000 miles between oil changes?
Even with the synthetics this seems to be a lot of mies between oil changes.
On my 09 GLI I did nothing outside the prescribed included ones and the car was rock slid. Never one issue at all the last 3 years. I expect nothing different on my new passat given that my last car was the TSI turbo and would be tougher on oil then the 2.5L se passat I got last night.
I was talking to a VW/Audi enthusiast in my office about this yesterday: he thought 10,000 miles was perfectly reasonable given the use of synthetic oil. I'm coming from a world of every three months or 3,000 miles, with a healthy dose of Catholic guilt served up at 3,750 miles.
It's still pretty early on with the B7, anyone have any real world experience with other models? I'm particularly curious about TDIs.
2013 Passat TDI SEL (Black/Black)
2012 Passat TDI SEL (Black/Beige) - sold
I remember when naysayers were telling us TDI guys that 10k drains were nonsense 10 years ago. Heck, even the dealer told me I should come in at 2500, 5000, 10k, 15k, etc. But countless oil analyses have proven the oils hold up fine beyond 10k, even with the additional soot loading by TDIs. I think the 2.5 would be fine... not nearly as much abuse to the oil as from a 2.0T or TDI.
I have 168,800 miles on my car, and it doesn't even use a quart of oil between changes..
So in my opinion 10,000 miles between changes, with the CORRECT oil is very doable..
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yep and the TSI I just gave back ate almost zero oil and was a vast improvement to the FSI. I would not worry at all about the 2.5L, my GLI was my 1st german car and I was pretty nervous after having 3 Japanese made cars that were actually made in Japan. The GLI exceed those in reliability not one issue not one squeak. Looking forward to the same from the passat now!
There are massive threads in other forums about the 3,000 mile myth. I follow the schedule recommended by the engineers who built the engine and the car so it'll be one year between oil changes for me (I'm a low mileage driver).
The lifetime engine coolant (no change interval specified) has to make you nervous I guess?
Current: 2012 Passat TDI SEL / 2012 Touareg TDI Lux
Past VW: 2005 Touareg 3.2 / 1996 GTI-VR6
Past Other: 2007 Audi Q7 4.2 / 2007 BMW 328xi / 2006 Porsche Cayenne / 2003 Audi A6 3.0Q / 2001 Audi A4 2.8Q / 1998 Jeep Wrangler Sahara / 1991 Honda Accord EX / 1989 Toyota Supra
With turbos it's recommended to let them warm up before real spirited driving and to let them cool down before shutting down. You can cool down by taking it easy on the throttle for the last couple of miles of any trip.
I've owned a 1.8t, 2.0t and 2.7t in the last 8 years and never had an issue with turbo life.
That being said, I run a European full synthetic oil (Elf) vs. the Castrol blended stuff dealers use. I found my oil consumption was reduced by the switch to the euro oil which has higher standards and ratings than US oils.
I was going to do changes every 10K on our new TDI, but decided on 5K changes since our dealer does oil, filter, and tire rotation every 5k for only $50 a visit. (Yes, that is using correct VW synthetic oil and filter.)
Last edited by ColoradoDriver; 07-29-2012 at 08:35 PM.
I started to do my own oil changes when 3K was a brave new world, and some people changed every thousand with non-detergent oil. I remember gas stations with glass bottles with metal funnels on top racked up beside the pumps at gas stations- because so many people routinely had to pour in one or more quarts of oil with a tank of fuel, engines consumed so much.
I am 68 years old, and times have changed.
The 3K oil change belongs to the past now. The UOA (Used Oil Analysis), available to anyone for very reasonable rates, proves conclusively that modern synthetic oils WILL go the distance. Follow the manufacturer's recommendations for O&F changes. In fact, UOAs offer some evidence that changing oils too frequently may actually produce negative results.
Just got the 10k service done on our TDI SEL and the old oil looked very clean. I plan to stick with the manufacturer's recommendations for routine maintenance. Of course I'll continue to keep an eye on the levels.
I forgot to ask the dealer how much ad-blue solution was needed to top it off.
I am very worried about what I should do as well. My Passat 2.5 has 4500 miles on it and I am thinking I may do 5k only because I drive very short distances to work. In the cold months, my cars actually never reache full operating temp before I get to work. My wifes Jetta 2.5 is in the same situation. She drives less miles per year than I do. Would you guys still suggest 10k in this situation?
That is known as SEVERE SERVICE..... most all car makers list a shorter OCI for severe service.
2012 Passat SE TDI NAV
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