Flying 777 to Buenos Aires tell me cool stuff about the 777!

[Hawk]

So I get to go on the trip of a lifetime (for me anyway ) I get to fly to Buenos Aires from Miami next week on business - business class (trip is $8,000 round trip!) Glad I'm not paying. Anyway, I noticed I'm flying Boeing 777. I've been reading about them on Wiki and watching som cool videos on YouTube but wondering if anyone can tell me some cool facts that I can think about as I'm cruising over the Amazon at 35,000 feet. Please no accident stuff, I'm a little bit of a nervous flyer as much as I love planes.

[OOOO-A3]

Pretty much everything about it is on Boeing's site...

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777...ackground.html


I don't like them, because I find them boring. I hate that Boeing competed against it's own 747, and that the 777 has taken away from 747 sales due to cost-per-seat-mile advantages. I wish that they had instead invested in increased fuel/cost/range efficiency of the 747 instead of making a fat tube twinjet.


Since entry into service in 1995 there have only been two hull losses and no occupant fatalities.

[Zombiee313]

First off they are great planes... with a good safety record... ummmm yeah just watch more yourube videos and enjoy flying on it

I don't like them, because I find them boring. I hate that Boeing competed against it's own 747, and that the 777 has taken away from 747 sales due to cost-per-seat-mile advantages. I wish that they had instead invested in increased fuel/cost/range efficiency of the 747 instead of making a fat tube twinjet.

really? so making a new airframe is a horrible idea huh? they are not really a direct competitor of each other anyways.... the 777 will be better in the long run because of the 2 vs 4 engines.... plus i think the 4 engine planes will be around for awhile on their own

[Hawk]

Interesting. Is it just me or do the engines look particularly huge on the 777?

[Ikey3125]

Interesting. Is it just me or do the engines look particularly huge on the 777?

because they are...

[ATL_Av8r]

Fun fact: The 777 is so easy to fly, you can legally fly one with only an ERJ type rating

[joness0154]

Fun fact: The 777 is so easy to fly, you can legally fly one with only an ERJ type rating

[GolfTango]

Is this on AA?

[Hawk]

Is this on AA?

It is.

[GolfTango]

It is.

AA's 772s are equipped with RR Trents, great sounding engine.

AA's 772s are getting up there in age. The majority of them went into service between 1999 and early 2000s and the interiors reflect this. The Audio/Video portion is okay. In coach, the movies cycled, so it was not on demand. You had to wait for the next "showing". I believe Business Class may have more video/audio options and is on demand.

Last time I was on a AA 772, while taxing out, an overhead panel came loose and smacked a passenger in the head. Two flight attendances quickly refastened it with packaging tape before takeoff.

Then an hour into the flight, the audio/video system went down. The crew tried to cycle it on and off, but it was dead. The crappy part is the overhead reading lamps are controlled by the video system. So I had a 13 hour flight with no entertainment and the light on. The couple across from us fastened a blanket over them to block the light and were quickly scolded by the AA crew. When they spoke up and complained, she actually said something along the lines "we would have to stop in Chicago to repair it. Do you want that? I wish we would so we could stop hearing you people complain!" AAs crew are not the friendliest folks.

This was tail N789AN. I have yet to write that trip report. But here is one I took back in 07 on an Emirates 777 (777-300ER):

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...d.main/101636/

But I love the 777. One of my favorite aircraft. Safe, powerful and beautiful.

[Brendan@bwalkauto]

I lol'ed. Many internet jokes get old, but not these ones.



Yeah, GE90's are pretty big engines.

[Gern_Blanston]

+1. Laughed out loud for Wing Commander Richard Ryan Healey, Esquire.

[Ikey3125]

AA's 772s are getting up there in age. The majority of them went into service between 1999 and early 2000s and the interiors reflect this.

Wait, that's old?

[GolfTango]

Wait, that's old?

Let me be more specific, for the airframe, no. But for the interiors, yes. They are due for a "refreshing".

[ATL_Av8r]

I lol'ed. Many internet jokes get old, but not these ones.

It's all in the delivery

[Ikey3125]

Let me be more specific, for the airframe, no. But for the interiors, yes. They are due for a "refreshing".

Ah...All I ever cared about when I flew commercial was my seat reclined so I could sleep the whole flight...not like there is food service anymore

[mAdD INDIAN]

777 are quiet, that is the best part about them. The actual comforting aspect depends on the interior layout and service.

I've flown business class on Air France & Air Canada's 777. Air Canada's is much nicer with individual 'pods' that have a seat that reclines into a horizontal bed along with your own private space. The Air France was just rows of seats that reclined into beds. There was less room in this configuration.

Air Canada also had better service compared to Air France, which was surprising.

[stratclub]

They are the first large air liner to have primary structure made out of Carbon Graphite Composite. The composite structural load bearing components are the floor beams, the horizontal stabilizer and the vertical stabilizer. On every older large air liner, those parts were aluminum.

[GolfTango]

They are the first large air liner to have primary structure made out of Carbon Graphite Composite. The composite structural load bearing components are the floor beams, the horizontal stabilizer and the vertical stabilizer. On every older large air liner, those parts were aluminum.

Um, I believe the A300/310s were the first to use composites in the airframe.

[Hawk]

So if I'm in row 12 and flying American Airlines in a 777-300 am I going to be in the seats that lie down completely flat or not? I can't figure that out.

[87vr6]

The Audio/Video portion is okay. In coach, the movies cycled, so it was not on demand. You had to wait for the next "showing". I believe Business Class may have more video/audio options and is on demand.

Then an hour into the flight, the audio/video system went down. The crew tried to cycle it on and off, but it was dead.

Two months ago on my flight from ATL-NRT via a Delta 777-200 this same exact thing happened to me. Except after t/o my screen and entertainment was working fine, but other passengers said theirs wasn't, so they cycled the system and mine didn't work for the remaining 13.5 hours of that flight. The system was a little different than the one you described though, as mine was an on demand system rather than one that cycles, and I was in economy.

So if I'm in row 12 and flying American Airlines in a 777-300 am I going to be in the seats that lie down completely flat or not? I can't figure that out.

Are you sure it's a -300? I'm not seeing anything about AA having -300... If it's a -200, then in row 12, you do not have the seat pods, though I can't remember if the seats lie flat or not:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ame..._777-200_A.php

[Hawk]

Are you sure it's a -300? I'm not seeing anything about AA having -300.

Sorry my mistake, my itinerary just says 777. Not sure which variant.

Flew LAN (Argentina) on the way down and enjoyed it a lot.

[Jettavr666]

So I get to go on the trip of a lifetime (for me anyway ) I get to fly to Buenos Aires from Miami next week on business - business class (trip is $8,000 round trip!) Glad I'm not paying. Anyway, I noticed I'm flying Boeing 777. I've been reading about them on Wiki and watching som cool videos on YouTube but wondering if anyone can tell me some cool facts that I can think about as I'm cruising over the Amazon at 35,000 feet. Please no accident stuff, I'm a little bit of a nervous flyer as much as I love planes.

No passenger has ever died in a 777 incident. It has been flying since 1995. You will be fine.

[Hawk]

No passenger has ever died in a 777 incident. It has been flying since 1995. You will be fine.

Thanks.

Of course if I were flying Concord I would never expect to die in a fiery crash either.

Anyway, can't wait to experience the 777. Is it as big as the A340?

[Jettavr666]

Thanks.

Of course if I were flying Concord I would never expect to die in a fiery crash either.

Anyway, can't wait to experience the 777. Is it as big as the A340?

There were 23 concords in service, that didnt fly all that often.

There have been 977 777's produced with most in service, and they fly all the time.

And yes a 777 is roughly the same size as a a340

[Jettavr666]

Pretty much everything about it is on Boeing's site...

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777...ackground.html


I don't like them, because I find them boring. I hate that Boeing competed against it's own 747, and that the 777 has taken away from 747 sales due to cost-per-seat-mile advantages. I wish that they had instead invested in increased fuel/cost/range efficiency of the 747 instead of making a fat tube twinjet.

747-8i?



tangent, I LOVE this video, and the plane is stunning, so in theory I do agree with you, but there was no way in hell any 747 variant was ever going to come remotely close to the efficiency of the twinjet 777.

[Hawk]

Just checked the AA website. Business class on the 777 does have lie-flat seats for the 11 hour flight from Buenos Aires to NYC.

Phew!

[The Maytag Man]

Never been on a 777 myself and I'll be flying in one from YYZ to YVR in a several weeks, im excited.

Come to think of it I think the only boeings I've been on are

-727 (I was like 7 or 8, i think it was TWA)
-737
-757
-767

[Ikey3125]

Never been on a 777 myself and I'll be flying in one from YYZ to YVR in a several weeks, im excited.

Come to think of it I think the only boeings I've been on are

-727 (I was like 7 or 8, i think it was TWA)
-737
-757
-767

Boeing's I've flown on are;

KC-135 (dash 80)
727
737
747
757
767
777
and F-15D, even if technically its a McDonnell Douglas product...which if I add,
DC-10
MD-11
MD-80
DC-9
KC-10

[OOOO-A3]

Boeing's I've flown on are;

Airliners that I remember flying on, off the top of my head...

707-320b and -227
717 even if technically it's a McDonnell-Douglas design...
727 (a lot)
737 (all variants except -800)
747-100, -200M (combi), -200b (SUD), -300
757
767

Douglas:
DC-3
DC-4
DC-6
DC-7
DC-8-62 (and probably others that I don't remember)
DC-9-10, -30, -40, -50
MD80/MD82/MD88
DC-10-30

Lockheed L-1011

Airbus:
A300
A310
A320/319/321

Bombardier CRJ-200, -700, -900

Embraer:
EMB120 Brasilia
ERJ145
ERJ175
ERJ195

Misc:
Yakovlev Yak-40 (and piloted!)
DeHaviland Comet
Sud Caravelle
HS748
Dash-8 -200, -300
ATR72

[4690]

fact. to fuel a 777 we have to drive the fuel truck under the wing and place a 6 foot ladder on top of the truck to get to the fuel panel.

[Stiglitz]

fact. to fuel a 777 we have to drive the fuel truck under the wing and place a 6 foot ladder on top of the truck to get to the fuel panel.

Hydrant truck? Ours reach no problem, actually they can extend too far and people can loose limbs if the micros dont work.

[4690]

Hydrant truck? Ours reach no problem, actually they can extend too far and people can loose limbs if the micros dont work.

nah our hydrant truck will reach, but our 5,000 gallon trucks don't have the lift.

[Stiglitz]

nah our hydrant truck will reach, but our 5,000 gallon trucks don't have the lift.

5K tankers on a triple? Forget that noise.

[Hawk]

I know you guys do these things my weight, but how many gallons of fuel would a 777 need for a 11 hour trip?