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      01-19-2012 04:45 PM #36
      What is something you learned last year that you are going to do differently this year?

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      01-19-2012 04:46 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by DoDoubleGeo View Post
      Ron Paul is just trying to build up brand-name recognition so his son has a chance at the oval office somewhere in the future.

      If Gingrich can keep his **** together and avoid anymore of this Palin talk he will at least have won over one liberal. Yeah, that's not gonna happen...
      I am going to describe a candidate for you right now, and I want you to think about whether or not you would support him.

      This candidate was for the individual mandate that served as the model for "ObamaCare." He was originally for the TARP bank bailouts before he was against them. He joined with Nancy Pelosi to promote the anti-business "global warming" agenda.

      He slammed Paul Ryan's budget plan as "extreme," calling it "right wing social engineering."

      You might think I am talking about Mitt Romney. Heck, you might think I'm talking about a liberal Democrat. But I'm not.

      That candidate I'm talking about is Newt Gingrich. He is what I like to call a "counterfeit conservative."
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      01-19-2012 04:52 PM #38
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      Mega eye roll.

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      01-19-2012 05:21 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by Egilbe View Post
      I'm pretty sure he will. If Bill Clinton can get re-elected and Little George Bush, too, there's no reason to think that Obama will get booted, especially since the repubs don't have a real candidate running. Romney is just a paler Obama.
      I don't think Clinton's re-election is a useful comparison. WJC was enjoying a
      strong economy, relatively little trouble abroad & had to face one of the worst
      Republican presidential candidates I can recall (& I actually liked Senator Bob Dole).

      Clinton had mid 5% unemployment #s (oddly enough, so did GWB at re-election time).
      Barry is sitting at ~ 9-1/2%. Relatively low inflation is keeping BHO afloat currently.
      If prices go up & unemployment stays where it's at, Barry is quite beatable.

      ...but then again, I'm just an angry Obama hater, so what do I know?
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      01-19-2012 05:30 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.FOH!! View Post
      I don't think Clinton's re-election is a useful comparison. WJC was enjoying a
      strong economy, relatively little trouble abroad & had to face one of the worst
      Republican presidential candidates I can recall (& I actually liked Senator Bob Dole).

      Clinton had mid 5% unemployment #s (oddly enough, so did GWB at re-election time).
      Barry is sitting at ~ 9-1/2%. Relatively low inflation is keeping BHO afloat currently.
      If prices go up & unemployment stays where it's at, Barry is quite beatable.

      ...but then again, I'm just an angry Obama hater, so what do I know?
      I just disagree that he is beatable by anyone that has been presented to the American Public as a candidate.

      I am sure his team realizes their predicament...but I have a hard time believing that in June or so they can't unleash the dogs and get voters out again. I've seriously never seen so many polling places so crowded as I did in 2008.

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      01-19-2012 07:05 PM #41
      So much for the "Ron Paul Surge"

      A distant 3rd in SC.

      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mary-1590.html

      A distant 4th in FL.

      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mary-1597.html

      I honestly have no strong opinions on Ron Paul either way but by the way his supporters flood seemingly every internet forum I would have thought the man had more support then that.
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      01-19-2012 08:03 PM #42
      RP isn't even campaigning in Florida.

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      01-19-2012 08:05 PM #43
      How does he intend to show GOP voters he can beat Obama if he won't even try in a key swing state?
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      01-19-2012 08:09 PM #44
      I think he just wants to be a foil to GOP dip****tery. I'm not sure he actually wants or cares to win.

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      01-19-2012 08:55 PM #45
      Primaries are about gaining sequentially, about carrying momentum forward into the next primary. Do poorly in a few early primaries and you never even get to the later states. If Ron Paul is serious about being President, then skipping Primaries in a key swing state seems counterproductive.

      Oh well, he's not "my guy" so I really don't care much, just a curiosity is all.
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      01-19-2012 09:40 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      Mega eye roll.
      Yeah, that's pretty much the only response one can give when they really have no counter point.
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      01-19-2012 09:55 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.FOH!! View Post
      Clinton had mid 5% unemployment #s (oddly enough, so did GWB at re-election time).
      Barry is sitting at ~ 9-1/2%.
      Try 8 1/2.
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      01-19-2012 09:59 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by backinthegame View Post
      Yeah, that's pretty much the only response one can give when they really have no counter point.
      You really don't expect anybody to counter every single point in that diatrabe, do you?

      I mean, I guess it's easier to say things like this when one and the "author" of that agree on more points than they don't.
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      01-20-2012 12:32 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by VarianceVQ View Post
      Try 8 1/2.
      My mistake, although I'd prefer the 5 1/2 that Bush had going.
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      01-20-2012 01:02 AM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      So much for the "Ron Paul Surge"

      A distant 3rd in SC.

      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mary-1590.html

      A distant 4th in FL.

      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mary-1597.html

      I honestly have no strong opinions on Ron Paul either way but by the way his supporters flood seemingly every internet forum I would have thought the man had more support then that.

      You really believe those %'s after the Iowa **** mess?
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      01-20-2012 02:02 AM #51
      What is something you learned last year that you are going to do differently this year?

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      01-20-2012 07:35 AM #52
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      lol. Mr. Richter is scared of ol Romney, I take it.
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      01-20-2012 07:39 AM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.FOH!! View Post
      My mistake, although I'd prefer the 5 1/2 that Bush had going.
      How come everybody forgets that everything fell apart under Bush's watch?
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      01-20-2012 08:20 AM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      How come everybody forgets that everything fell apart under Bush's watch?
      The economy was shedding a half a million jobs a month at the end of Bush's term.

      But god forbid you mention that or you are "just blaming Bush."

      It's ridiculous.
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      01-20-2012 08:23 AM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      The economy was shedding a half a million jobs a month at the end of Bush's term.

      But god forbid you mention that or you are "just blaming Bush."

      It's ridiculous.
      Exactly. Republican blinders.

      Anybody see Newt call his ex a liar on the debates. What a scumbag. Talk about doing the two-step. Funny ****.
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      01-20-2012 08:23 AM #56
      Guys, I rarely insert a smillie.

      I've mentioned it more than once, I was never a fan of Bush.
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      01-20-2012 08:24 AM #57
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      Guys, I rarely insert a smillie.
      I hate to tell you, but it made you look foolish. There was, and still is, nothing to smile about.
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      01-20-2012 08:27 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      I hate to tell you, but it made you look foolish.
      Tell you what, I'll acknowledge Bush's hand in things if Dem's will
      concede Congress' being to blame as well. Fair?
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      01-20-2012 08:28 AM #59
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      tell you what, i'll acknowledge bush's hand in things if dem's will
      concede congress' being to blame as well. Fair?
      Abso-****ing-lutely!
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      01-20-2012 08:35 AM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.FOH!! View Post
      Tell you what, I'll acknowledge Bush's hand in things if Ds and Rs will concede Congress' being to blame as well. Fair?
      Goddamned Right, but I fixed that for accuracy.

      I refuse to give one man or one party all of the credit or all of the blame. They're all responsible for their action and inaction thruout their time in office

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      01-20-2012 09:05 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      Abso-****ing-lutely!


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      80% of them are dirty.
      That's nice.

      I think I'd go with "Filthy ****ing whores"

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      01-20-2012 09:31 AM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by Slipstream View Post

      Try reading the thread before making a lame statement like that. I agreed that BOTH sides were to blame.
      Last edited by barry2952; 01-20-2012 at 09:33 AM.
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      01-20-2012 10:03 AM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      Perfect.
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      How come everybody forgets that everything fell apart under Bush's watch?
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      Exactly. Republican blinders.

      Anybody see Newt call his ex a liar on the debates. What a scumbag. Talk about doing the two-step. Funny ****.
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      I hate to tell you, but it made you look foolish. There was, and still is, nothing to smile about.
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      Abso-****ing-lutely!
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      Try reading the thread before making a lame statement like that. I agreed that BOTH sides were to blame.
      Above is everything you've said in this thread to date. Four snide, anti-Republican remarks and a fifth that could easily be interpreted as such given the poor choice of wording of the person you were quoting. I fail to see the obvious statement from you saying both sides were to blame.

      I can't imagine why someone might assume you were being sarcastic with your:

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      Abso-****ing-lutely!
      Someone needs to get the sand out.
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      01-20-2012 10:05 AM #65
      You need to learn to read.
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      01-20-2012 11:00 AM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      You need to learn to read.
      I just outlined your entire contribution to this thread. What exactly did I miss?

      Given your obvious ire for all things conservative and Republican in this (and many other) threads, and your frequent use of sarcasm in THIS thread, you're either naiive or ignorant if you don't think your response to this:

      Quote Originally Posted by 2.FOH!! View Post
      Tell you what, I'll acknowledge Bush's hand in things if Dem's will
      concede Congress' being to blame as well. Fair?
      ...could be perceived as yet another sarcastic jab at the Republican party.
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      01-20-2012 11:05 AM #67
      Slipstream reading fail:

      Quote Originally Posted by 2.FOH!! View Post
      Tell you what, I'll acknowledge Bush's hand in things if Dem's will
      concede Congress' being to blame as well. Fair?

      My response, absolutely agreeing that both sides are to blame.

      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      Abso-****ing-lutely!

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      01-20-2012 11:11 AM #68
      My point is(was) that people will throw out terms like "Republican blinders' & point out
      the loss of jobs at the end of GW's term while conspicuously leaving out the fact that
      the end of Bush's term was a full 2 yrs into a solid Democrat majority in congress.

      Who has the blinders on?

      Oh & I'll make jabs at Republicans.
      Being that I'm a Republican, it's ok though. It's like black folks using the N word.
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      01-20-2012 11:12 AM #69
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      My response, absolutely agreeing that both sides are to blame.
      If you're not going to read what I'm saying, and acknowledge that what you said could easily be interpreted as "Abso-****ing-lutely, the Dems would be more than happy to blame the (currently Republican) Congress for the current mess," then **** it... I can't explain it any more clearly. It obviously isn't me with the reading / mental comprehension problem.

      If your intent was different, you could have easily said so in a decent manner. Instead, you decided to be a dick about it. Did someone piss in your Ensure this morning?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Slipstream View Post
      If you're not going to read what I'm saying, and acknowledge that what you said could easily be interpreted as "Abso-****ing-lutely, the Dems would be more than happy to blame the (currently Republican) Congress for the current mess," then **** it... I can't explain it any more clearly. It obviously isn't me with the reading / mental comprehension problem.

      If your intent was different, you could have easily said so in a decent manner. Instead, you decided to be a dick about it. Did someone piss in your Ensure this morning?
      I am not responsible for your clear lack of comprehension. Had you asked the question in a civil manner you might have gotten a civil answer.

      My age has nothing with your inability to read.
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