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      01-21-2012 01:25 AM #1
      I know this has been addressed before, but . . .

      Looking for the elusive 18" wheels to clear the calipers. I visited VMR today. Nice guys. Their 18" just barely scrapes the calipers at the barrel. Interestingly, deep concave spokes clear the calipers just fine and are not the problem.

      Also, 9.5 width (ET 45) comes frighteningly close to the strut. The tire would definitely rub it. I also worried about rubbing the fender at that width. Unfortunately, VMR doesn't carry 9" width.

      I plan to visit Forgestar to test fitment.

      So,
      - Has anyone found 18"-ers that fit?
      - Can anyone confirm that 9" width with ET 45 doesn't rub? It's only 7mm further out than stock (assuming 255 tire and stock height).


      ----- UPDATE -----

      I got Miro 111's, 18x8.5 ET35 with R-S3 255/35 rubber. Here you go:







      Not quite poke, but they're pretty far out for my tastes. The gap you see is because the tire is 1" shorter than stock (thanx to the lack of a 255/40 offering from Hankook). But, I'm hoping this will save me from rubbing on hard cornering. Hey, maybe the shorter gearing will gain me 0.1 more second in 0-60!

      I looked at the fender seam in the rear wheel wells. There's about 1cm that can be ground down without any impact on the seam strength.

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      01-21-2012 01:33 AM #2
      There have been a few posts of 18's that work, I'm sure the owners will chime in. There have been some on QW too.
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      01-21-2012 01:36 AM #3
      My winter wheels are 18x8 ET35 and they fit perfectly with about 1cm clearance between the arms of the wheel and the caliper face. They also stick out about 5 mm farther than stock toward the fender and they don't rub. There's pretty much no way that an 18x8 ET45 would fit without hitting the caliper.

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      01-21-2012 11:30 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by - Jeremy - View Post
      There's pretty much no way that an 18x8 ET45 would fit without hitting the caliper.

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      01-22-2012 08:57 PM #5
      Looks like the usual suspects showed up to the party.

      Jeremy, please remind me which 18's you have. The ones I looked at scrape at the barrel, not the spokes. As Domm said, rim clearance can be addressed by spacers.

      I really, really don't want to settle for 19s. An R-S3 in 255-18 is $220. 225-19 is $330. That's +$400 per set for a worse track tire! (and less rubber, to boot)

      An 18x9 ET45 that clears both the barrel and spokes would be perfect.
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    6. 01-22-2012 09:30 PM #6
      new HRE wheels P40SC are out, i think lightest yet

      http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-pictures.html

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      01-22-2012 10:37 PM #7
      Nobody makes an 18x9 +52 wheel that fits the TT?
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    8. 01-23-2012 12:56 AM #8
      HRE will make you the R43, its a super light race wheel, i was considering it, but i decided 18's look too small on the mk2 TT

      http://www.hrewheels.com/r43/

      that wheel only comes in 18", but you can get any width, and offset you wish

      18x9 weigh 19lbs

      they also make the R40, mesh version


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      01-23-2012 01:32 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by tdi-bart View Post
      HRE will make you the R43, its a super light race wheel, i was considering it, but i decided 18's look too small on the mk2 TT

      http://www.hrewheels.com/r43/

      that wheel only comes in 18", but you can get any width, and offset you wish

      18x9 weigh 19lbs

      they also make the R40, mesh version

      Those are insanely expensive for a track wheel (not to mention that they look pretty bad on that BMW, IMO).

      Are any of the OEM 18" TT wheels 9" wide?
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      01-23-2012 02:16 AM #10
      I'm gonna try to drop by Forgestar this week. They're iForge, but make those 'rolled' pseudo-forged wheels. They're quite light for cast wheels, and cheap too, at $1400 for a set. They make 18x9 at any ET up to 50 (they're made to order).
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      01-23-2012 04:37 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by mageus View Post
      Looks like the usual suspects showed up to the party.

      Jeremy, please remind me which 18's you have. The ones I looked at scrape at the barrel, not the spokes. As Domm said, rim clearance can be addressed by spacers.

      I really, really don't want to settle for 19s. An R-S3 in 255-18 is $220. 225-19 is $330. That's +$400 per set for a worse track tire! (and less rubber, to boot)

      An 18x9 ET45 that clears both the barrel and spokes would be perfect.
      Ohhh... I understand now. Sorry, I just assumed that all 18" wheels had the same barrel inner diameter. I always figured that the spoke geometry would be more important than the barrel. That really sucks. I guess you're right about needing test fitments then. Hopefully the Forgestars fit. They're a good track wheel.

      So, I'm not sure if I can be much help here. My wheels are German reps called Wheelworld WH11's. There's probably 7mm of clearance between the caliper and the arms and 5mm between the caliper and the barrel.

      ****ty cell phone images:







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      01-23-2012 04:39 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Marty View Post
      Those are insanely expensive for a track wheel (not to mention that they look pretty bad on that BMW, IMO).

      Are any of the OEM 18" TT wheels 9" wide?
      Yes, the OEM European TT-RS 18's are 18x9 ET52 and run 255's. Although, they're not very attractive.



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    13. 01-23-2012 11:06 AM #13
      Standard OEM 18"s are 245/40 18 not 255.
      I run them as winters with the OEM 19"s (255/35 19) for summer

      I have the RS4 B7 8 pot calipers squeezed behind too without issue



      Note I have drilled discs now not slotted



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      01-23-2012 11:25 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by jamiekip View Post
      Standard OEM 18"s are 245/40 18 not 255.
      I run them as winters with the OEM 19"s (255/35 19) for summer

      I have the RS4 B7 8 pot calipers squeezed behind too without issue
      Damn, that is sexy, Jamie. But the OEM 18's are 18x9 ET52, correct?

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      01-23-2012 02:11 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by mageus View Post
      Can anyone confirm that 9" width with ET 45 doesn't rub? It's only 7mm further out than stock (assuming 255 tire and stock height).
      I rub under hard cornering front and back, lowered on H&R springs, no spacers, stock 255/35/19 Toyo tires. Its gentle, nice rubbing, but it does rub. The front is rubbing on the plastic fender liner, and the rear is rubbing on the plastic fender/bumper clip. Many TT owners have ground down that bumper clip without issue, and I think that is going to be necessary with any setup that is more aggressive than stock.

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      01-23-2012 02:45 PM #16
      My P40's with et 50 are due in this week. I'll keep you all informed if there is any rubbing. I doubt the 2mm will cause any issues though.
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      01-23-2012 10:17 PM #17
      Dropped by Bavarian Exclusive, in Brea, CA. Friendly guys. They tested a Miro 111 18x8.5 and it worked! Plenty of barrel clearance, much more than Jeremy's can-you-fit-an-index-card. ET 45 rubs at the spokes, but ET 35 clears in spades.

      Only question is, will the ET 35 rub? It's about 3/4" closer to the fender, which is a little scary, especially if you hit a berm hard. Options are 255/35-18 which is 1" shorter diameter, or 245/40-18 which is similar diameter but only 1/2" closer to the fender. Or use the ET 45 with a 5mm spacer (not optimal for the track).


      Still trying to get in with Forgestar to check fitment.
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      01-24-2012 04:13 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by mageus View Post
      Dropped by Bavarian Exclusive, in Brea, CA. Friendly guys. They tested a Miro 111 18x8.5 and it worked! Plenty of barrel clearance, much more than Jeremy's can-you-fit-an-index-card. ET 45 rubs at the spokes, but ET 35 clears in spades.

      Only question is, will the ET 35 rub? It's about 3/4" closer to the fender, which is a little scary, especially if you hit a berm hard. Options are 255/35-18 which is 1" shorter diameter, or 245/40-18 which is similar diameter but only 1/2" closer to the fender. Or use the ET 45 with a 5mm spacer (not optimal for the track).


      Still trying to get in with Forgestar to check fitment.
      Bah! I can fit three index cards in mine

      Here's a really sloppy CAD drawing so you can visualize what you're deciding on:



      Green: 19x9 ET52
      Red: 18x8.5 ET35
      Cyan: 255/35 R19
      Magenta: 245/40 R18
      Blue: 255/35 R18

      You can see that the blue sticks out 17mm farther than the stock wheel, but is also 13mm shorter. The magenta is a bit better at only 12mm farther out and 4mm shorter. IMO, magenta is the safer option, but the blue is 1/2 inch shorter and that may prevent rubbing. It's too hard to say. One thing to consider is the diameter of the tire. Your speedo will read faster with a smaller tire. The 245/40 is only 1.2% faster than stock. The 255/35 R18 is 4% faster than stock.

      http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp

      Honestly, if the 18x9 Forgestar's fit the barrel and spokes around the brakes, I think having them make a custom offset is best. If they can fit around an ET50 or so, then you can get the R-S3's in either 265/35 or 265/40. A 255/40 R18 Pilot Super Sport would absolutely be your best option because it's the same diameter and width as stock.

      http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....SSXL&tab=Sizes

      EDIT: After reading Bigstu's comment, I definitely think your best bet is finding something in the ET50 range with the 255/40 PSS's. I'm really surprised that 19x9 ET45 rubs...

      Here's another drawing showing how close the 255/40 R18 is to stock on an 18x9 ET52 wheel:



      Magenta: 19x9 ET52
      Blue: 18x9 ET52
      Green: 255/35 R19
      Red: 255/40 R18

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      01-24-2012 02:32 PM #19
      Please see my response in the topic I started a while back, post #10.

      http://forums.fourtitude.com/showthr...tions-that-FIT!

      I found some that have worked excellent so far, and are extremely reasonably priced.
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      01-25-2012 12:32 AM #20
      Jeremy, you are a true uber-geek.

      I say this with the deepest respect. I've got spreadsheets full of offset data for every possible wheel/tire combination.

      Yes, 255/40-18 is the same width as stock. Here's the issue:
      - A quick survey of Fourtitude has people with 8.5"-45 and 9"-40 255 rubbing - and only with street driving.
      - Per Tire Rack, R-S3 options are 245/40 & 255/35. No 255/40.
      - R-S3 is supposed to be one of the widest tires around, so add a few mm
      - Sorry, but this is a track tire. No pansy PSS here. R-S3 or bust.
      - I doubt the Forgestars would fit at ET 50.
      - This assumes the Forgestar barrels fit - they have a pretty thick lip in pictures.

      Best option would be Forgestar 18x9 with 265/35 (assuming ET 45). This would put me 12mm+ out from stock, and be 1/2" shorter diameter than stock.

      The Miro 18x8.5-45 with 5mm spacer (ET 40) and 255/35 also puts me 12+mm out, but with a 1" drop in radius which is safer. But at the expense of a smaller contact patch, and having to use a non-hub-centric spacer.
      Miro 18x8.5 ET 35 would only be an option with 245/40 - even smaller contact patch, taller tire, but sans spacer.

      I'm assuming Stu is running 10-20mm lower than stock. That equalizes my smaller diameter advantage. I think if I want a wider track, I'm going to have to get a shorter tire.

      This stock ET 52 is driving me crazy!

      Thanx for all the help, guys. We truly are forging new territory.


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      01-25-2012 12:34 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by sr_erick View Post
      Please see my response in the topic I started a while back...
      Looked at those. But I need an 8.5" wheel to get 255 rubber. Good to hear they are of decent quality, and look great to boot.

      The Miro is a pressure cast wheel, which is theoretically stronger than gravity cast, which is likely what Alzor does.
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      01-25-2012 01:52 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by - Jeremy - View Post
      Yes, the OEM European TT-RS 18's are 18x9 ET52 and run 255's. Although, they're not very attractive.



      - Jeremy -
      Do you know of any places that make decent replicas of the TT-RS 18's in the same width and offsets?

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      01-27-2012 05:18 PM #23
      Spoke to Forgestar (iForge). They can't test fit wheels since their wheels are made to order. He guarantees me that the CF5 18" ET 47 will clear, since he's seen it on a TT with Brembo BBK.

      Here are my options:

      Miro 18x8.5 ET 40, 255/35 tire.
      - I've confirmed fitment in person.
      - 255/35 is 1" shorter than stock (diameter), giving more room for clearance.
      - Available in a couple days with tires fitted.

      Forgestar 18x9 ET 47, 265/35 tire.
      - I haven't personally confirmed the fit
      - 265/35 is 3/4" shorter than stock.
      - Given the deeper offset, the 265's track is as wide as the Miro with 255 tire.
      - Takes 6 weeks to manufacture and deliver.

      So, the Forgestar will give me either more rubber with the same clearance, or more clearance with the same rubber. At the expense of not being 100% sure it will fit.




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    24. 01-27-2012 05:48 PM #24
      A full inch is close to 4% off. Odometer and speedometer will be off quite a bit. Stance will probably look off too, not enough wheel and tire for a TT IMO

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      01-28-2012 01:56 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by JohnLZ7W View Post
      A full inch is close to 4% off. Odometer and speedometer will be off quite a bit. Stance will probably look off too, not enough wheel and tire for a TT IMO
      Yes, but this is for the track only. Have GPS for accurate speed. Don't care too much about looks. May even gain a little acceleration at the expense of top speed, which is 170+ stock.

      I definitely wouldn't recommend this for street wheels. 265/35-19 would be perfect for looks (only increases the radius by 1/6").
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    26. 01-28-2012 04:28 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by - Jeremy - View Post


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      This is all wrong, wheels don't fit to anything.
      They need to be black or silver.

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      01-28-2012 08:01 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by R5T View Post
      This is all wrong, wheels don't fit to anything.
      They need to be black or silver.
      Yeah, I know. They're just winter wheels. They look like **** anyway

      I'll get better wheels next winter.

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      02-22-2012 10:47 PM #28
      just looking one day and found some nice + light quality J-Line wheels, custom built at a much lower price than most 2 pc forged wheels

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      02-26-2012 10:30 AM #29
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      19x9 et50, no rubbing P40S, weight under 21lbs. Stock rubber.
      Tried same wheel et 40, rubbed fender clips on moderate loading.

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      02-26-2012 11:27 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by IPSA View Post
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      19x9 et50, no rubbing P40S, weight under 21lbs. Stock rubber.
      Tried same wheel et 40, rubbed fender clips on moderate loading.
      Sister HRE wheels...P40 same size (19x9 et50), brushed tinted clear...

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      02-26-2012 02:27 PM #31
      Looks a little cooler in your neck of the woods.

      Gotta luv P40s in any form...

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      02-26-2012 05:44 PM #32
      No doubt! Although our winter has been great this year.
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      02-29-2012 06:38 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Black BeauTTy View Post
      Sister HRE wheels...P40 same size (19x9 et50), brushed tinted clear...

      nice p40's.... but do I spy with my little eye that u painted the side mirrors black? By your silver outer grill frame means u didn't spring for the titanium pack/ cf mirrors ...

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      ^^^they're CF
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      02-29-2012 08:41 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by AppleChilli View Post
      ^^^they're CF
      Yeah, what he said. No Ti pac, but CF mirrors.
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