16v ABA Turbo upgrade

[GTIYR87]

RIP Aba

[Fast929]

Seems to me that block had a very good run.

All the honda guys, even at these "low" power levels are killing sleeves all the time.

Don't kid yourself. A properly sleeved Honda mill is zero joke. I'd take their head efficiency over my "stout" block all day - everyday .....

[SirSpectre]

When did that GT3076 spool up on that sucker?

[REPOMAN]

I understand that you used the ABA block in your car, I run the 9A with 83.5 pistons. I am wondering if the issue that you had is something that I should be worried about?
So it cracked between #2 & #3, was this something that was causing a power loss? or did you lose compression in those cylinders?
As you know I run mine at High comp Turbo. 22psi this year. I am more worried about the head coming off than cracking the block, but then i guess i could be wrong.
Any info on why or how you found this would be great. Thanks.

To early to say what it was but I have abused this block alot over the years. It could have been a casting flaw from the manufacture.
it was a 96 ABA NON oil squirter block that i had tapped for oil squirters.
I had a head water flang fail causing a over heat/head gasket
I knocked out #3 oil squirter once and drove 20 miles on low oil pressure.
I broke a BBM dizzy gizzy and lost oil pressure once.
I destroyed 1 crank and a set of pistons early on with the 83.0 mm bore 8v S/C
I Broke a Crank when I hit 10,000 RPM and broke the OEM trigger wheel the first time.
I broke another OEM trigger wheel at 9000 RPM
I had the Fuel pump failure and burned the head/ gasket and block.
I had a OEM thermastat fail at the track/over heat head gasket

Yeah this block has been threw alot. it has had 20+ psi boost it's whole life.
I will ask the machinist when i pick it up next week.
I looked at the new ABA block today and it is a NON oil squirter block also so i am looking for a
pre 96 ABA w/ OEM squirters.

[Jones84]

I Just pulled out my ABA None Oil Squirter block from My MK2 16vt a few weeks ago. I replaced it with one that has The Squirter's. I have one more ABA block not sure if its got them or not. I will pull the pan tomorrow and see. If it has them you are welcome to it.

[AJmustDIE]

Don't kid yourself. A properly sleeved Honda mill is zero joke. I'd take their head efficiency over my "stout" block all day - everyday .....

You're acting like I assume honda's don't make power.
I hang in a shop that boosts/tunes them everyday,

I don't like them, but I respect them.

[REPOMAN]

When did that GT3076 spool up on that sucker?

I have DATA LOGS showing 25-28psi at 5400rpm
CLT= Coolent Temp
TPS= Throttle Posistion
MAP= Manifold Pressure KPA
MAT= Manafold Intake Temps Celcius
RPMxA/FxCLTxTPSxMAPxMATxINJ P/W
3859 1.07 79 23.5 80.9 36 4.578 1
4305 0.92 80 32.3 97 36 5.33 PRELOAD
4852 0.78 80 16.9 87.8 36 3.63 1
4852 0.78 80 16.9 87.8 36 3.63 1
5207 0.78 80 20.2 73.5 36 4.461 1
5377 0.83 176F 33.6 96.3 96F 5.408 LAUNCH
5377 0.83 80 33.6 96.3 36 5.408 1
5756 0.8 80 38.1 106.3 36 4.49 1
6120 0.77 80 38.1 109 36 4.669 1
6432 0.81 80 38.8 118.6 36 6.442 1
6432 0.81 80 38.8 118.6 36 6.442 1
6783 0.8 80 38.2 134.4 36 7.082 1
6945 0.8 80 42.8 153.7 36 7.899 1
6945 0.8 80 42.8 153.7 36 7.899 1
6928 0.8 80 60.1 197.9 36 9.765 1
6896 0.77 81 76.1 233.4 36 11.266 1
6896 0.77 81 76.1 233.4 36 11.266 1
7193 0.78 81 86.3 245.7 36 11.787 1
7604 0.79 81 88.7 241.9 36 11.83 1
7604 0.79 81 88.7 241.9 36 11.83 1
7968 0.8 81 83.4 246.9 36 10.931 1
8301 0.81 81 79.5 247.2 36 12.355 1
8543 0.81 81 69.5 246.1 36 10.976 1
8648 0.8 81 61.2 247.2 37 11.032 1
8648 0.8 81 61.2 247.2 37 11.032 1
8810 0.81 81 64.3 245.3 37 12.344 1
8800 0.79 81 66.5 252.6 37 12.67 1
8812 0.78 81 72.6 254.6 37 12.752 1
8829 0.78 81 74.4 253.8 37 11.318 1
8832 0.78 81 81.8 255.7 37 12.806 1
8720 0.8 81 86.2 251.1 38 12.597 1
8782 0.79 81 91.7 249.9 38 12.544 1
8823 0.77 81 94.3 253 38 12.688 1
8803 0.78 81 94.9 256.9 38 12.853 1
8827 0.78 81 92.9 253 39 11.282 1
8803 0.77 81 97.9 256.5 39 12.842 1
8757 0.78 81 94.6 256.1 39 12.819 1
8782 0.78 82 90.9 252.3 40 11.248 1
8858 0.79 81 98.7 255.3 40 12.792 1
8796 0.77 82 98.2 256.5 40 12.838 1
8755 0.8 179F 85.7 250.3 104F 11.166 SHIFT2nd
8705 0.8 82 72 244.2 41 12.29 1
8786 0.8 82 42.5 240.7 41 10.739 1
8338 0.78 82 0 112.4 41 4.894 1
7861 0.86 82 0 44.7 42 1.891 1
7435 0.78 82 0 23.5 42 0.003 1
7089 0.75 82 0 19.6 42 0.003 1
6661 0.76 82 42.1 53.1 43 3.67 1
5611 0.93 82 79.3 118.2 43 6.36 1
5611 0.93 82 79.3 118.2 43 6.36 1
5387 0.86 82 99.9 129.8 43 6.842 1
5364 0.74 82 99.9 135.9 44 7.102 1
5486 0.77 82 99.9 150.2 44 7.69 1
5524 0.77 82 99.7 171 44 8.621 1
5687 0.74 83 100 186 44 9.205 1
5761 0.74 82 99.9 216.8 45 10.557 1
5924 0.75 83 99.9 240.7 45 11.501 1
6083 0.76 83 99.9 254.2 45 10.67 1
6249 0.78 83 99.9 263 45 11.117 1
6402 0.8 83 99.9 249.9 45 10.56 1
6559 0.8 83 99.9 246.9 46 10.432 1
6559 0.8 83 99.9 246.9 46 10.432 1
6675 0.8 83 99.9 258.8 46 10.938 1
6832 0.81 83 99.9 252.3 46 10.658 1
7004 0.81 83 99.9 256.1 46 10.824 1
7004 0.81 83 99.9 256.1 46 10.824 1
7116 0.81 83 99.9 258 46 10.904 1
7258 0.81 83 99.9 251.5 46 10.627 1
7399 0.81 83 99.9 254.2 46 10.883 1
7399 0.81 83 99.9 254.2 46 10.883 1
7533 0.8 83 99.9 255.7 47 10.954 1
7679 0.81 83 99.9 256.1 47 11.048 1
7679 0.81 83 99.9 256.1 47 11.048 1
7814 0.8 181F 75.6 250.7 116F 10.885 SHIFT3rd
7918 0.81 83 0 179.1 47 7.774 1
7918 0.81 83 0 179.1 47 7.774 1
7397 0.8 83 0 58.5 47 2.474 1
7025 0.79 83 0 28.1 47 1.187 1
7025 0.79 83 0 28.1 47 1.187 1
6656 0.77 84 12 23.1 48 0.003 1
6406 0.76 84 68.3 96.3 48 5.515 1
6406 0.76 84 68.3 96.3 48 5.515 1
5321 0.86 84 100 137.9 48 7.142 1
5321 0.86 84 100 137.9 48 7.142 1
5322 0.74 84 99.9 150.6 48 7.714 1
5337 0.73 84 99.9 155.6 48 7.92 1
5346 0.74 84 99.9 170.2 49 8.582 1
5346 0.74 84 99.9 170.2 49 8.582 1
5341 0.73 84 99.9 186 49 9.256 1
5439 0.77 84 99.9 196.8 49 9.712 1
5439 0.77 84 99.9 196.8 49 9.712 1
5501 0.74 84 99.9 221.8 49 10.77 1
5562 0.74 84 99.9 259.2 49 12.117 1
5631 0.75 84 99.9 261.1 49 10.952 1
5631 0.75 84 99.9 261.1 49 10.952 1
5708 0.77 84 99.9 256.9 49 10.776 1
5766 0.78 84 99.9 268.4 49 11.338 1
5826 0.79 84 99.9 258.4 49 10.845 1
5826 0.79 84 99.9 258.4 49 10.845 1
5895 0.8 84 99.9 269.2 50 11.366 1
5895 0.8 84 99.9 269.2 50 11.366 1
5972 0.78 84 99.9 266.1 50 11.238 1
6030 0.79 84 99.9 255 50 10.693 1
6030 0.79 84 99.9 255 50 10.693 1
6097 0.82 84 99.9 262.3 50 11.002 1
6174 0.79 85 99.9 252.6 50 10.674 1
6174 0.79 85 99.9 252.6 50 10.674 1
6232 0.79 85 99.9 257.3 50 10.872 1
6293 0.81 85 99.7 258 50 10.901 1
6293 0.81 85 99.7 258 50 10.901 1
6361 0.79 85 99.9 251.5 50 10.627 1
6417 0.8 85 99.9 267.7 50 11.309 1
6417 0.8 85 99.9 267.7 50 11.309 1
6478 0.8 85 99.9 253 50 10.688 1
6539 0.8 85 99.9 249.9 51 10.562 1
6539 0.8 85 99.9 249.9 51 10.562 1
6607 0.8 85 99.9 262.3 51 11.077 1
6607 0.8 85 99.9 262.3 51 11.077 1
6663 0.8 85 99.9 252.3 51 10.661 1
6724 0.8 85 100 251.1 51 10.61 1
6792 0.8 85 99.7 260.3 51 11 1
6834 0.8 85 99.9 263.4 51 11.128 1
6834 0.8 85 99.9 263.4 51 11.128 1
6899 0.8 85 99.9 255 51 10.776 1
6954 0.8 85 99.9 249.6 51 10.549 1
7000 0.8 85 99.9 251.9 51 10.64 1
7000 0.8 85 99.9 251.9 51 10.64 1
7059 0.81 86 99.9 249.9 51 10.563 1
7106 0.8 85 99.9 257.3 52 10.869 1
7106 0.8 85 99.9 257.3 52 10.869 1
7164 0.81 186F 73.2 250.3 125F 10.576 SHIFT4th
7429 0.8 86 0 143.3 52 6.138 1
7159 0.83 86 0 54.7 52 2.315 1
7159 0.83 86 0 54.7 52 2.315 1
6830 0.76 86 71 82 52 4.885 1
5990 0.89 86 99.9 151 52 7.728 1
5990 0.89 86 99.9 151 52 7.728 1
5491 0.81 86 99.9 167.1 52 8.454 1
5356 0.74 86 99.9 185.6 52 9.24 1
5356 0.74 86 99.9 185.6 52 9.24 1
5357 0.73 86 99.9 212.6 52 10.378 1
5372 0.73 86 99.9 235.7 53 11.352 1
5372 0.73 86 99.9 235.7 53 11.352 1
5403 0.73 86 99.9 241.9 53 11.616 1
5437 0.73 86 99.9 261.1 53 12.424 1
5437 0.73 86 99.9 261.1 53 12.424 1
5465 0.73 86 99.9 268.4 53 12.736 1
5485 0.74 86 99.9 266.5 53 11.258 1
5485 0.74 86 99.9 266.5 53 11.258 1
5524 0.74 86 100 259.2 53 10.955 1
5524 0.74 86 100 259.2 53 10.955 1
5560 0.77 86 99.9 256.1 53 10.818 1
5595 0.77 86 99.9 268.8 53 11.352 1
5616 0.78 86 99.9 275 53 11.611 1
5616 0.78 86 99.9 275 53 11.611 1
5656 0.77 86 99.9 261.1 53 10.954 1
5685 0.77 86 99.7 255.7 54 10.726 1
5685 0.77 86 99.7 255.7 54 10.726 1
5712 0.77 86 99.9 261.1 54 10.955 1
5738 0.77 86 99.9 256.5 54 10.76 1
5738 0.77 86 99.9 256.5 54 10.76 1
5772 0.78 87 99.9 260.7 54 10.936 1
5800 0.77 87 99.9 263 54 11.043 1
5800 0.77 87 99.9 263 54 11.043 1
5826 0.77 87 99.9 255.7 54 10.726 1
5846 0.77 87 99.9 272.7 54 11.52 1
5878 0.77 87 99.9 255.3 54 10.714 1
5878 0.77 188F 99.9 255.3 129F 10.714 FINISH
5905 0.79 87 93.4 258.4 54 10.851 1

[REPOMAN]

I Just pulled out my ABA None Oil Squirter block from My MK2 16vt a few weeks ago. I replaced it with one that has The Squirter's. I have one more ABA block not sure if its got them or not. I will pull the pan tomorrow and see. If it has them you are welcome to it.

That would be cool Ryan, I would totally owe you big time...
Do you like that Data Log showing 8800rpm shift?

[Jones84]

That would be cool Ryan, I would totally owe you big time...
Do you like that Data Log showing 8800rpm shift?

I did, Very nice.
I do have 3 9a blocks, If you wanted to go that route, I will pull my other ABA down in the morning and let you know just as soon as i do. If its not the right one I do know of one that is, if i remember correct a 95 so it should have them. Dude wants $75. I was going to grab it any way. Fingers crossed the one I have is what you need..

I did want to ask you, Where do you get your DYNO tuning done at. I Have gone to PRE. Never again.. I was told Forged, but I here bad bad things about them. If you know of a good place please let me know.. Thanks

[REPOMAN]

I do all my own tuning at Bel Air in Oregon City. $200 for a couple of hours.
I can give you a hand when you go and the hook up there.
yeah if it is still available i will go for it $75 no problem.

[Jones84]

Check your PM.

[Jones84]

I found one, I will PM you with My # so we can get it..

[REPOMAN]

Thanks Ryan.
UPDATE
so looks like i will pick up the new block from Ryan on monday. I had a agreement to purchous
a new set of 11.1:1 comp ratio pistons from a local then he bailed...LAME

Now i am looking at maybe picking up Todd Pavics used set of 11.3:1 83.5mm pistons
looking to make a high comp ratio turbo setup and make 600whp.
Todd made 700whp with those pistons.

1 Last option i am looking at is my Main man and Fabricator Jerry Rynolds of RPM
Rynolds Performance Motors has a 95.5 stroke crank and a set of 12.1:1 pistons he might build for me.
That would produce a ****load of WTQ and 700whp no problem.

my final option is reinstall my 8.5:1 pistons and go from were i was at before add a race gas tune.
Next week will tell which way i will go.

[REPOMAN]

New Block is off to the machine shop.
FYI when a ABA block says MEXICO it is a 96 or newer. this block is a 98 block so the crank is
cast and there are nor oil squirters.... I took my old squirters down to the machine shop where
they will drill and tap the oil galley to add my squirters.
Deck Bore and Main..$$$
I got the new set of Rings from JE. I am just going to use the old 8.5:1 JE's for this build.
I have committed to swapping over to E85. so a retune is in order when i install it.
I will post pics when i get the block back from the ,achine shop.

[AJmustDIE]

I have committed to swapping over to E85.

Get ready for the stench and the eye burning.

[Jones84]

Let me know when you get ready for tuning, I want to come down with the bunny for the same thing.
Maybe get a better deal..

Sorry about the Block being wrong. If I would have seen it first we could have avoided this crap. Again I am sorry for that.

[REPOMAN]

No problem, I am glad i have it to the machine shop and will have it ready to assemble soon.
BTW
I found the Engine Enamal finally. JEGS

When i go I will deal for 6hrs for $400 split it with me $200 each.
I will only need maybe 2 hours. won't take me long to get the current tune adjusted.

[Jones84]

perfect, all i need is to fine tune my fuel for the new injectors. Maybe play with the timing..

[EL DRIFTO]

i couldn't find the ar

[Jeebus]

I just noticed in that data log that you reved that thing to 8800rpm...

[REPOMAN]

I just noticed in that data log that you reved that thing to 8800rpm...

All the time.


I might be picking up a 80' Scirocco today and build another 16v Turbo drag car that weighs
1000lbs lighter then the Corrado.

[Jones84]

All the time.


I might be picking up a 80' Scirocco today and build another 16v Turbo drag car that weighs
1000lbs lighter then the Corrado.

Are you trying to get as light as me?? That would be cool if you did, then you could do the High Comp that you wanted to do..

[REPOMAN]

Not for me I am getting my brother in law into Import Drag racing.....
We are going to look at 2 sciroccos tomarrow.... 16V turbo builds

[REPOMAN]

Finally got the new block back from he machine shop... Assembly is next.

[Jones84]

Whats with the stipes?? thats not what you said you were going to do.. LOL

[AJmustDIE]

You're a weird guy. lol.

[REPOMAN]

Whats with the stipes?? thats not what you said you were going to do.. LOL

Yeah I know, The ruby red looked Pink... NOT gonna Happen
I resprayed the intake pipes Cobalt Blue it looked so good i decided to paint the block Cobalt Blue with 10 Lightning bolts to signify the 10 perfect lights i have made over the years.
That and in pictures i want to be able to identifie this block from the last.
It may sound and look silly but there are alot of 16vT builds out there these days and i want mine to remain unique.

" This is my gun, There are many like it but this one is mine."
Full Metal Jacket

It wll look better when it is assembled.


Hey Ryan, how is your Back? I have a MS Ignition curve for you to try in the Drag Rabbit, it ran a 11.0 @ 131mph
IM me your Email adress and i will send it to you.

[dubinsincuwereindiapers]

I like it But.. I did do a lot off acid back in the day..

Just sayin

[rabbitchaser]

im going to have to get in touch with you guys up in portland, i move up there next weekend and my gti is coming with me, turboed 2.0 fully stripped pushing 22psi boost.

i get it on the dyno saturday to see what it puts down before it gets put on the trailer and moved to oregon.

i will be living in the milwaukie area. hope to meet you all soon.

[REPOMAN]

Cool, always room for more racing friends.
The first Event of the Year is Sport Compact Challenge 4/29/12 at Woodburn drag strip
I am shooting to be there with my 11 second Corrado this year.
there are a few of us that pit together
Me
Repoman Corrado 12.0 117mph
Bernt Corrado 11.66 120mph
Aaron Audi 8.50 175mph
Ryan Rabbit 12.0 117mph
Chris Rabbit 11.50 120mph
Eric Scirocco 15.0 98mph
to name a few.
I just bought my Snell 2005 Helmet today.

[rabbitchaser]

ya i got a set of slicks and skinnies to throw on the car for the track, all i need is some time to learn the car

i need a helmet still, aaron is sponsored by integrated engineering right, there great guys i was just at there shop friday getting a customers of mines car chipped, i hang out with them when i can.

[Jones84]

Nice man, I hope that thing is getting put togather now..
My block is bright Red.. well orenge now. lol

[Jones84]

I got that timing map, I am going to try it and see how it works. Thanks

[REPOMAN]

That map is 9.1:1 c16 16vt
because you are higher comp ratio it will need LESS timing. Retard it a few degrees across the
RPM range then dial it in on the Dyno MBT or Track for highest MPH.

[REPOMAN]

I am so COMPLETELY Stressed... Tried to install new IM Shaft bearing tonight and completely F'ed them up. $35 down the crapper... so i deside to take the new block back to the machine shop to have them do it But first i checked the oil squirters that i had done by the machine shop... They don't thread.........the holes are wrong.... I WILL NOT MAKE THE SEASON OPENER RACE on the 29th...THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!