mk4 track cars. . lets see what you got.

[metric1]

This is what happens when the crewchief/shop secretary has some time on her hands. Nifty editing and a cruel sense of humor. You can hear the straight cut gears in this one http://vimeo.com/5810679

[zooyork155]

Ha! That's awesome.

[turbonium89]

how much does the heater core weigh on the mk4? just curious. what wiring is deleted from it? planning to delete it.

[mgyip]

You'll probably save 5-10#. However, I'd strongly suggest that you do NOT delete the heater core and the ancillary air box. It's a good "auxiliary radiator" and, while you're in the desert, if you drive at an event that's wet, you'll be very thankful for warm, fan-forced air on the windscreen. Just watch LeMans and relish in the devices that the teams build for their drivers to wipe away mist from the inside of the windscreens.

[Sketchykid]

I recorded numbers for everything i pulled from the MK IV jetta. PM me if you need somthign specific and i will look it up.

here's one i remember off the top of my head. I removed 15 lbs of "useless" wiring.

[4ceFed4]

I know I'm late to the party...

[zooyork155]

Is that a bolt-in cage?

[4ceFed4]

Is that a bolt-in cage?

Yea, it's a customized Autopower race cage. I was about to weld it in, but ultimately decided to just bolt it in. It was originally for a sunroof equipped GTI, but after deleting my factory sunroof I raised up the main hoop about 1.5" to bring it as close to the headliner as I could get it.

[aircooled56]

I just had mine welded in. The idea of the main hoop legs punching through the floor (right where rubber body plugs are) didn't appeal to me.

[zooyork155]

Yeah, I keep going back and forth whether to have a cage welded in or just buy a bolt-in.

[18T_BT]

How do you like your GC sleeves? What spring rates are you running front/rear? I am shopping around for a new suspension myself. How are the billstein's holding up, I am looking into Konis.

Here is my pile o heap: (planning to convert it to a hillclimb car)

[4ceFed4]

How do you like your GC sleeves? What spring rates are you running front/rear? I am shopping around for a new suspension myself. How are the billstein's holding up, I am looking into Konis.

In the rear I have articulating perches that I picked up while visiting Dick Shine's shop in Massachusetts. He was adamant about not using ground controls rear perches on the mk4, said he had a bad experience with them. I do run GC rear perches on my 2010 JSW, and being a simpler design for the IRS, they fit the bill just fine.

Right now I'm running 375# front and 400# rear on Shine valved Bilstein HDs. The shocks have been in place for a long time between my car and DIAF's old mk4, and they're holding up fine. I think I'm going to be trying out a set of H&R RSS coils in the near future, so I'll report back with my impressions.

[turbonium89]

lets see more

[ianacole]

In the rear I have articulating perches that I picked up while visiting Dick Shine's shop in Massachusetts. He was adamant about not using ground controls rear perches on the mk4, said he had a bad experience with them. I do run GC rear perches on my 2010 JSW, and being a simpler design for the IRS, they fit the bill just fine.

Right now I'm running 375# front and 400# rear on Shine valved Bilstein HDs. The shocks have been in place for a long time between my car and DIAF's old mk4, and they're holding up fine. I think I'm going to be trying out a set of H&R RSS coils in the near future, so I'll report back with my impressions.

I used the GC rear perches on mine with no problems whatsoever.

[rex_racer]

There's nothing wrong w/ the standard rear GC perches, they were perfectly fine. For someone that wants to get complete linearity out of the sprint rate however, an articulating perch would be preferred.

[ianacole]

There's nothing wrong w/ the standard rear GC perches, they were perfectly fine. For someone that wants to get complete linearity out of the sprint rate however, an articulating perch would be preferred.

No dispute there...just don't always subscribe to Mr. Shine's point of view

[4ceFed4]

No dispute there...just don't always subscribe to Mr. Shine's point of view

Either does this guy:

[ianacole]

Clearly

[WOB-SH573]

There's nothing wrong w/ the standard rear GC perches, they were perfectly fine. For someone that wants to get complete linearity out of the sprint rate however, an articulating perch would be preferred.

For sure Dick doesn't like anything from GC, I used a complete setup from them and was happy. Rear perches worked out just fine. Ran 850 front 450 rear for springs, no front sway bar and a Shine Rear bar. Hope to bring my car back one of these days...

[2 doors]

Yeah, I keep going back and forth whether to have a cage welded in or just buy a bolt-in.

I'd recommend getting one fabricated, especially if you have removed your interior. Like someone else said, the mounting point for the Autopower bars in the MkIV is right over a rubber drain plug and the thinnest piece of sheetmetal in the whole car. Mine bar is for a sunroof car, but once I eliminate my sunroof, I raised up the bar. Coupling this with the lowered race seats but the shoulder harness bar right in line with the seat openings.



Mine is now right up close to the roof.



I too have drank the Shine Kool-Aid:

OMG! Teh wheelGap

If I ever decide to do any suspension updates, it will be GC coilovers, though.

[zooyork155]

Thanks for the input, 2 doors.
What do you guys think I can plan on a custom 4-point costing me (ballpark)?


Thought I'd share a little work project that may interest some of you


We're in the midst of prototyping the brackets for this setup on Mk4 and plan to do the same for Mk5/6 soon.
Caliper, bracket, pads, and hardware weigh in at just a hair over 9lbs (about half the weight of R32 calipers)!
More pics here:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...1&l=59ae13d897

[rex_racer]

How is this custom AP kit different from the AP bolt on kit that is offered?

[zooyork155]

How is this custom AP kit different from the AP bolt on kit that is offered?

Which kit are you referring to?

[rex_racer]

Which kit are you referring to?

Either this kit: Golf MK4 GTi - Front 4 Piston Kit CP5200-1025, or this one: Golf MK4 GTi - Front 6 Piston Kit CP5570-1003.

[zooyork155]

The caliper we are using has stainless pistons, mounting points and abutment plates, anti-kickback springs, and uses a 20mm thick pad that is more common and less expensive. This caliper can be used with a wider range of rotor sizes than the kits you mentioned as well and should accomodate a wider range of wheel fitments.
We are still testing but plan to have options for both plain OEM rotors and two-piece rotors.

[rex_racer]

The caliper we are using has stainless pistons, mounting points and abutment plates, anti-kickback springs, and uses a 20mm thick pad that is more common and less expensive. This caliper can be used with a wider range of rotor sizes than the kits you mentioned as well and should accomodate a wider range of wheel fitments.
We are still testing but plan to have options for both plain OEM rotors and two-piece rotors.

Ahh, thank you for clarifying. A kit using OEM rotors would be very interesting.

[turbonium89]

Has anyone thought of or done a longitude motor set up. Since I have a rolling shell now. To much demise, I really want to try something custom. I know its pricey, I know it would be easier to keep it transverse. But I don't care. I want to do something custom. To learn with something I got. Anyy pics news or info would b awesome. Someone look up tc2000 2007 v8 jetta. This is what I'm thinking

[zooyork155]

Might as well go AWD if you're going throught the trouble to fit a longitudinal motor.

[turbonium89]

Yes awd would b nice. But then I'm forced to run nose heavy and I want the motor to sit as far back as possible and even move it as far back trimming the fire wall and making a larger tunnel

[REDGTIMK4]

Here is my old Mk4 Vr. It was a blast at the track. Always reliable and fun.






I ended up selling out.

[michaelhamilt0n]

What hood is that?

[2003 golfer]

Is that some kind of racing battery meant to keep the weight low, or what? Also, what is the coating on the tub for?

[REDGTIMK4]

Is that some kind of racing battery meant to keep the weight low, or what? Also, what is the coating on the tub for?

It was a Braile lightweight battery in a Summit battery box. It was meant to be lighter and moved to the rear, since a VR is already nose heavy enough. The "coating" was Dynamat the previous owner had layed in the back spare tire well. I never got around to removing it, it was on the 'to do' list, but I ended up selling the car.

[MK4_GLI_V8_EATER]

[awbuss2]

Time for the weather to get better so I can actually use my car.
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