what would you compare these two in terms of quality?
#1
At long last Solo Werks has released the MK6 platform S1 Coilovers!
These coilover kits are for all MK6 Jetta's including SportWagen that have the 55mm OD front shock body.
Solo Werks lists this as the following models:
SportWagen
SE and SEL
TDI
Please verify the outside diameter of your front struts at the mounting point on the spindle as in these images:
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We are offering these complete coilover kits for:
Lower 48 states - $499 shipped within the
Hawaii / Alaska / PR - $559 shipped
Canada: $575+GST/HST shipped (all duties and taxes are taken care of by AMI)
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We have again had the pleasure of performing the Beta testing and first installation on this kit and have the measurements and data over and above the manufacturers specs
Here are the specs / details on the kit:
Features at A Glance
Solo Werks S1 Coilover System - MK5 and MK6 - Premium Entry Level Coilover Suspension!
- NEW FORMULA Silver Zinc Plated Housings for superb corrosion resistance
- Silver spring perches - double lock ring design
- Platform Specific Spring Rates and Matched Valving
- Front 35-55mm (1.4-2.2") Lowering Range
- Rear 35-70mm (1.4-2.75") Lowering Range
- Includes shortened Sway Bar End links!
- 3 year Limited Warranty
Each Kit contains:
Please note, you must reuse your factory bump stops/dust boots with this kit.
- 2 Front Threaded Coilover Dampers -NEW FORMULA Silver Zinc Plated with dual locking ring spring perches
- 2 Front Springs+2 Helper springs
- 2 Rear Dampers
- 2 Front Swaybar End Links
- 2 Rear Adjustable Perches
- 2 Coilover Spanner Wrenches
Here is the Beta Test car in its testing:
Stock height:
At the Solo Werks lowest "recommended lowest setting - 55mm front 70mm rear":
The Hub to Fender measurements for the Solo Werks Recommended max lowering:
Solo Werks Posted Lowering ranges:
AMI Tested max drop:
AMI Tested max drop measurements:
- Tire size as tested is 225/45/17
- The max lowering shown in the tables above is achieved at the lowest position of the threaded adjustment on both front and rear axles.
- Helper Springs have been retained and should not be removed! See notes below on the Helper Springs.
- These measurements allow for the shock absorbers both front and rear to have the minimum amount of travel required by the engineers to do their job before full bump stop engagement.
- Depending on your wheel and tire combination, you may need spacers to clear the coilover perch/springs. SOLO WERKS recommends at least 5mm clearance in this case.
- At the lowest level with some wheel/tire combinations, you may need to modify one or more of your body panels to allow for sufficient travel of the wheel inside the fenders. Please ensure that you have clearance from all obstacles through the complete travel of the wheels.
NOTES: The Helper springs are there to keep tension on the main spring during full extension of the shock absorber.
The main spring is not long enough on its own to keep the shock at full extension.
Removal of the helpers will result in the main spring being able to travel away from its upper and lower spring perches, and will result in damage to your suspension as well as other components.
DO NOT REMOVE THEM!!!
Last edited by Sales @ AMI; 01-31-2012 at 07:00 PM.
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#4
Will these fit a MK6 Jetta S?
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#5
Hello jimmyvdubb5,
From our info, the Jetta S has the smaller 50mm diameter housing, and will not work with this kit.
If you can verify that your S has the 50 or 55mm front housings, we can tell you for sure!
You need to get this measurement:
Give us a call and we can walk you through it if needed
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#6
Thanks to everyone for their questions & orders!
Our shipping department is busy getting your kits shipped this afternoon for everyone who has ordered as of 3:00PM pacific time today, watch your email for tracking
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#9
damn! so these won't fit my 2.0l jetta?
but fit without problem my mk6 jsw, right?
it's 575$ at my door in canada?
seems like a very good deal!
#10
Correct on both points for fitment - Can you confirm that your S has the 50mm OD front struts? WE have not been able to confirm or deny that this is the case on all S's.
The price is a special one as we have a deal with FedEx to have the kits sent 2 day with all brokerage and duties/taxes etc worked in
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#12
Is this an introductory price, or can we expect this for a while?
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#14
Thank you for answering, but I do have one more question. How can this kit fit both the Mk V and Mk VI Jetta when the two have completely different rear end assemblies? The Mk V has a multi-link rear suspension, while the Mk VI does not. I'm just not sure how the two vehicles with different rear end assemblies can utilize the same kit.
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#18
great thanks! just getting ready to order these. Last question is....do you know if the MK6 2011 SE has the 50 or 55mm front housings? I am away and have no way to measure.
#19
Our information shows the S is the only one with the 50mm, so your SE should have the 55mm
With that said, VW historically has not always been the most consistent with this kind of thing. If there is a problem and yours has the 50mm, we will work it out with you
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#20
so thats $575 including shipping and taxes/duties to canada????
#21
2011 VW Jetta Sportline; black
19" RS4 rep wheels on 235/35/19 Pirelli P-Zero Nero rubber; lowered on ST Coilovers
AWE Track Edition exhaust
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#22
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To Canada it is $575+HST or GST (province dependent) ALL IN Price.
All in Price means shipping and all border charges such as duties, taxes, brokerage fees, clearance etc... You will not receive any surprise bills from any agency or shipping company once the original transaction is done at AMI, we take care of it all.
It is also a specially negotiated Express shipping with FedEx, which is a 2-3 day service from our California office to you!
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#23
Where are located in CA. Is the price different if picked up and not shipped?
#24
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#25
Our shipping department is really busy trying to get out all the orders today!
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They get a bit carried away, but they are pretty sure they can get everyone's order that was placed in the last 24 hours out today!
Orders shipping out today will have tracking emailed to them via our automated system + UPS/FedEx
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#26
Just a bit confused on this coilover set.
These fit both mk5 and mk6 Jettas including the sportwagen ( that has mk5 independent rear suspension) but dont fit the mk6 GLI that has the same thing?
These don't fit base model mk6 Jettas while other coilover kits do fit all mk6 jetta models?
How is that possible? I'm not trying to come across as a jerk. Im genuinely confused.
#27
I completely understand your confusion, and I was in the same boat not having installed these on a MK6 Jetta myself.
What I can tell you is that as I said before, I have had the Solo's in front of me and compared with the 3 or 4 part numbers from both ST's and KW's that cover these applications and compared them all side by side.
Here is what we found:
The rear springs are all the same design on all the MK5-MK6 offerings from all vendors as are the perches - regardless of independent vs non. There were 2 different spring rates, one standard and one heavier spring. The Solo's that we have Part # S1VW006 have the standard spring and apparently the heavier one will follow shortly for the Wagon's etc...
The fronts only differ in the size of the strut body (50mm for the base model - 55mm for all others, we can only guess this was a cost measure by VW - as there are many models in the rest of the world that use the smaller strut body), and in some cases the spring rate is different - this varies per manufacturer & tuning - but they are all the same design.
From what we have seen, there should be no reason why this kit would not be the one for the GLI as well as they should also be the 55mm strut housing - they were just left off the list due to an oversight on our part.
I wish I had more of an explanation but no one has any additional answers for us right now - with the manufacturers keeping their secret recipes to themselves for the moment.
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#28
Anyone who has actually recieved these have pics on a mk6.
#29
Another great day!
As always, all orders received before 3:00 PM pacific time are in process and will be shipping today and tracking information will follow - watch your email boxes for the info (and check your Junk folder just in case)
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#30
Mine will be here Monday the 13th! Ill post pictures shortly.
#31
2011 VW Jetta Sportline; black
19" RS4 rep wheels on 235/35/19 Pirelli P-Zero Nero rubber; lowered on ST Coilovers
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#32
Ok, Is this a miss type? I ask because to make the VW Jetta cheaper here, they cut corners, especially in the base model. That being said, if that were the case, I would imagine that the base models would NOT share the same size struts as the rest of the world.
Now, after reading this thread, I was abotu to warn everyone not to trust what was being said as I (along with most of the rest of us), have been led to believe that the Mk6 Sedans were not at all like the Mk5 sedans and Mk6 Sportwagen. But, I did so quick research, which I have done before but never looked at the Mk6 wagens. What I did was compare part numbers from manufactures and see what matched up. I used H&R, since this will be the coil over company I personally will use, and this is what I have found. For the Street Performance Coilover Kit, the part number for the Sedan is the same as the Sportwagen - 54780-2. I then looked at the Mk5s on the other hand is - 54755-2. But, if you look at the RSS Club Sport Coilover Kit for the Mk6 Sportwagen and the Mk5s, you will see they share part numbers - RSS1755-1. Now, if the one type of suspension from a Mk5 sedan can be bolted into the Mk6 Wagen, and another type can fit the Mk6 Wagen and the Mk6 Sedan, that means they are all interchangeable. A Mk5 coilover WILL bolt into a Mk6. After realizing this, I then started research WHY they would have different part number between the Mk6 and Mk5 Sedans. What I found is this, My car, 2011 Jetta Sedan SEL w/ Sport Package has a curb weight of 3,082lbs. The 2009 Sedan (wanted to make sure it was a Mk5 I found) has a curb weight of 3,230lbs. The Mk6 Sportwagen has a curb weight of 3,285lbs. This is why the Mk5 and the Mk6 Wagen share coilover, cup kits, etc., they can use the same spring rate since they only differ by 55lbs in weight. The Mk6 Sedan is lighter by appox 200lbs. Now, saying all that, those of you with the Mk6 Sedan WITH the 4 ccylinder base model have a curb weight of 2,804lbs. THAT is why the aftermarket companies have been slow to release kits for th eMk6. The drastic difference is in the base models, 200lbs light than 5 cylinder Mk6s and 400lbs light than Mk5s and Mk6 Sportwagens. Agoiant, different springs rates. Now, I am only guessing that those of us with 5 bangers have a different spring rate than the wagens and the Mk5s, but they prolly do since 200lbs is a full grown adults worth of weight in the cars curb weight. Most of us know our cars feel different with just one person in our car with us, even when they don't even weigh 200lbs, lol.
Ok, so, if you have read this far, awesome. You now know why all this is why it is and you also know that Mk5s suspensions CAN be used on Mk6s Sedans IF you have the 5 pot motor. The out come will be a slightly stiffer suspension because of the spring rates. This is what I will choose since I LOVE my cars having a stiffer ride. My 98 Jetta VR6 handle like it was on rails. I had Bilstein coils, adj, rear lower sway, front upper strut bar, TT front control arm rear bushings with poly front bushings, VF Engineering motor mounts al around, heavy duty front upper shock bushings, poly rear upper shock bushings, and had the ride hight corner balanced. Not to toot my own horn, but I learned a lot about suspensions from screwing around with that car. Everything was installed by myself. Corner balancing was done by a shop that builds and race preps SCCA cars. I SERIOUSLY miss that car. Heres a shot of it in its hay day: [IMG][/IMG]
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#33
hey AMI.
Im getting ready to place my order but im a complete suspension n00b. What do the front upper strut mounts and bearing do for this kit? My car has 5k on it, are they necessary? Thanks
#34
Hello VW Acolyte,
This is not a typo, but you will find that if you look at European application lists, the 50mm strut is the one used on many of the MK5/6 platform based vehicles.
To use your HR preference, check out their Euro App list: http://www.h-r.com/de/f_produktsuche.php
Put VW in the first drop down, and then Golf 5 in the second and hit Suche
You will see that there are 2 different "Federbeinaufnahme" AKA Strut bodies:
ø50mm & ø55mm
In this case they show one of each strut size for almost every application.
I do not know their purchasing practices at VW, but it is possible they had a surplus of the smaller ø50mm shocks and spindles in their system and it was cheaper to use - I really cannot say.
Your research looks to be spot on with what we have found as well, thanks for the independent confirmation!
Let me know if you have any questions!
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#35
The front upper strut bearings and mounts are the OEM VW parts that you need to have in order to install the coilovers, and are something that is a wearable part.
They are #10 & #11 in the Diagram below:
In your case with a new vehicle you will be able to reuse your factory units (unless your suspension is making noises when you turn...)
But I would bet yours are good.
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