No Rust Girling G54 caliper guide pins.

[90quattrocoupe]

I have some Girliing G54(Stock front caliper) guide pins for sale. These have no rust and are not bent. They come with OEM bolts. These guide pins are not listed as a separate part number by VW. You would have to buy the whole carrier.
$16 shipped for 2 each (one caliper) or 27 shipped for 4 each (two calipers).

I guess there is some confusion in some quarters. These guides pins are from Girling 54s(this is stamped on the Caliper), not from any other VAG caliper with the #54 stamped on it.

There is also an undocumented rumor, that you can buy these guide pins from either O'Reillys or Autozone, for less than I am selling these used ones for. I don't have a part number for this product, because the source did not provide it, but feel free to check into it. If you find the right product, new, please let me know so I can pull my ad. I wouldn't want to be accused of selling used parts for more than new.

Thank you,
Greg W.

[90quattrocoupe]

[90quattrocoupe]

I have more of these.

[90quattrocoupe]

[90quattrocoupe]

Why would you need a link?

Simply go to one of the stores, and ask. The pins are not listed as G54 guide pins. I found out about them four years ago when I went to a local autozone to see about brake pads. I was surprised to find that the stores carry the slide pin boots in packages of four, and the slide pins in packages of two. Both boots and slide pins include replacement bolts. Slide pins are also sold by some online aftermarket parts sellers. I found them for sale at Rockauto among other places.

What are G54 guide pins? A lot of VWs use different brake calipers from different manufacturers, all with a 54 size piston designation. So do other makes of the cars. In many cases, the same slide pins can also be used on rear brake calipers with different sized pistons. The slide pins are not unique to any specific caliper for a specific car model, or brand of car.

I found that when I asked, getting slide pins is almost like going to a store and asking for a bolt. Take an old one with you are a sample to make sure they hand you the right size. Some of the replacement ones are superior to the original parts, in that they come hard chromed, and that should help reduce wear, and eliminate the rust and corrosion problems that we suffer with the original slide pins.

Why a link, maybe to prove what you are talking about. A lot of I said, he said, takes place on VW Vortex. So usually, people try to give pictures or part numbers, so people can learn from others efforts.

G54 is a model number for Lucas/Girling front brake caliper from on a lot of various VAG cars. It is stamped on the top of the caliper. Do you know which VAG cars came with this caliper?

Now in this case, you are partially correct. The number does not refer to the piston size, it refers to size of the bore the piston fits in. But if you take a G60 Girling(stamped on the top) caliper, which is an upgrade for some VAG cars, it does not refer to the piston, as it is a dual piston caliper.

So I took your advice, and went to O'Reilly and Autozone. I went to 3 different O'Reillys.

Most of the time, they came up with the wrong kit. I gave them 9 different VAG cars to chose from. This is the pin kit they came up with for a VW MK3 ABA Jetta and Golf. Well, gee, that doesn't look right.



We finally came across a kit that looked right, this was for a Audi 4000, and Scirocco. In case you didn't know, these cars have the same caliper as the MKIII ABA, just different caliper carrier. But they did not have it in stock at any of the 3 stores I went to. In fact, a search showed it nowhere in there system. Special order, from guess who? Beck Arnley. The part number for the kit from Beck Arnley, was 084-1244, and was $46.59. Came with 2 pins, boots and bolts. I could not confirm, what country they were made in. The cheapest I could find these on line were $26 plus shipping, from Amazon.

I didn't buy one, so I could not compare it with the originals. It would have been a pain to return, as I do not need the kit.

Here is a picture of the kit.



Now Autozone. Now, there were only 2 stores in my area. At first they could not find the kit either. Had to give them 4 different VAG cars, before they found the kit. Now you were correct, sort of. The kit comes with 2 pins and bolts, but no boots. Here is a picture of the kit, still in the package. I left them in the pack so I could not be accused of using another pin as a comparison. The part number for this kit is H15913. And you are correct, the kit is only $5.43, including tax.



Seems to be a problem with this kit though. If you will notice in the next picture, the pins are a lot longer than the originals. These would not fit in a Girling G54 caliper carrier. In addition, the pin diameter of the original is 8.38mm. The diameter of the pin in the Autozone kit, is 7.96mm, and that was measured through the plastic.



By the way, this kit in Made in China. Of the 9 VAG cars, I had listed running this caliper, this kit came up for 7 of them. The other two did not list a kit. You can reference this kit online at the Autozone web site using the part number I have given. As for hard chromed, this kit came with zinc plated pins.

So if you got something different, please let us know. Facts only please, no generalities.

I am just trying to help out other VAG peoples

By offering pins that are in excellent shape, not corroded
Made in Germany
And are hard to find, if at all
At a low price.

Greg W.

[90quattrocoupe]

I wrote that boot kits and slide pins kit are available, and both types of kits include the bolts. I don't remember whose (autozone or oreilly's) slide pin kits were chrome plated, just that one brand was chrome plated, and the other brand was plain. The photos you provided show exactly that. The parts were instock at the stores I visited, and they were in house brand packages, not BeckArnley.

Nobody has ever claimed that the people behind the counters of chain auto parts stores know anything about cars, or that the computers systems located in the stores were worth anything. That's why I said to go down to the stores and look.

My, my. Testy are we. I am just asking for a clarification.

I took your suggestion. I went to the stores, and the sales person and I looked through all the bins, trying to find a Caliper Pin Kit that would match what I had. Nothing. Then they looked through there store computer, and could find nothing. What more is a person or someone looking for parts supposed to do?

How do you know that the longer pins will not fit? You never tried them.

How do you know that the slide pins are not a smaller diameter for a reason (like reducing the possibility of seizing)? They will certainly fit (what was the difference in size .4mm?), and the original design and original slide pins are not a precision fit to begin with.

Actually, I didn't have to check the fit. I pulled the pins from a rear Girling 38 caliper, which are the same diameter as the Girling 54s, but longer. There were still shorter than the ones from Autozone. The Girling 38(shorter than the ones from Autozone), bottomed out in the carrier, the stock ones did not.

Picture of Girling 38 rear caliper pin, compared to Autozone part.



Girling 38 caliper pin installed in Girling 54 front carrier. The 38 pin is on the left.



So too long maybe? As for the smaller diameter, yea VAG made a big mistake buying calipers from a company that put too large a diameter pin in the 1000s upon 1000s of calipers. Not only that, the pins were too short.

But Autozone, working in conjunction with a Chinese company, determined the pins were too short and the wrong diameter, and produced the correct replacement product.

G54 is not a brake caliper model number.

Corrado G60s and Corrado VR6s came with Girling or Lucas 11.0" front brake calipers that were marked "54", NOT G54.

MKIII ABA engined cars came with Girling, Lucas, or VW 10.1" front brake calipers that were marked "54" (these are not the same calipers used on 11.0" caliper cars).

MKIII 93-95 VR6 engined cars came Girling or Lucas 11.0" front brake calipers marked "54".

MKIII 96-99 VR6 engined cars came with ATE 11.3" front brake calipers marked "DE" and "54".

Passats from 90-99 that I've seen came with Girling, Lucus, VW, or ATE marked "54" front brake calipers, regardless of whether the brake rotors were 10.1" or 11.0" or 11.3".

Girling and Lucas dual piston sliding frame brake calipers found on Audis are marked 60. People refer to them in error as G60s, because they were made by Girling/Lucas. They were/are not marked G60.

Go to some junkyards and look at the brake calipers on some VWs and Audis.

If you notice in this post, I have started referring to the G54s, as Girling 54 calipers. I am sorry if I confused you. In my area, we refer to the calipers as G54s and G60s. Mainly, because in the past a lot of people were confused because the Corrado G60 (car model) came with Girling Girling 54s. So when people were wanting to upgrade to the 280X22mm rotors, it was confusing.

You may be right on all those other calipers having 54 stamped on them. I only deal with Girling 54s and Girling 60s. Those come stamped with "Girling" on them. Most people I talk to understand what I am saying. I will have to change the wording in my ad, so as not to confuse people, who might want to buy them.

Of course, it doesn't help when people refer to rotors in inches. VAG doesn't list any rotors in inches. They use 239mm, 256mm 280mm, 276mm, etc.

Since I have spent all this time defending what I am selling, maybe you should spend some time, and get the correct part number from O'Reillys or Autozone and post it up here. Maybe with a picture. That way others would be able to buy the correct product. Might help someone out and save them some money. And when you do, if it is less money and not made in China, I will pull my ad.

Hawking used parts. You say it like it is a bad thing. You don't do this?

Greg W.

[90quattrocoupe]

Corrado G60s and Corrado VR6s came with Girling or Lucas 11.0" front brake calipers that were marked "54", NOT G54.

MKIII ABA engined cars came with Girling, Lucas, or VW 10.1" front brake calipers that were marked "54" (these are not the same calipers used on 11.0" caliper cars).

MKIII 93-95 VR6 engined cars came Girling or Lucas 11.0" front brake calipers marked "54".

MKIII 96-99 VR6 engined cars came with ATE 11.3" front brake calipers marked "DE" and "54".

Passats from 90-99 that I've seen came with Girling, Lucus, VW, or ATE marked "54" front brake calipers, regardless of whether the brake rotors were 10.1" or 11.0" or 11.3".

Oh, by the way, you missed a couple. These also have 54 stamped on them, but they also have Girling stamped on them.



Audi 4000, 4000Q, 80, 80Q, B3 90/90Q, and some Audi 90Q 20v.
VW Quantum Syncro
MKII Jetta 16Vs
VW Scirocco 16V


Greg W.

Sorry, needed to edit this. For the MKII Jetta, there was a mid year split in 89. The later MKIIs had the Girling 54s.
For the Audi 90Q 20V, some had Girling 54s and some had Girling 60s.

[90quattrocoupe]

Actually, this computer has 3 Chinese parts in it. My kid built it. Basically, because my last two computers, HP and Dell did not last as long as my two old Microns. One is 10 years old, and the Laptop is 12 years old. I use the desk top for old programs no longer available, and the Laptop for tuning.

You may be right about Chinese products, but I choose to avoid them. My families preference in buying is in this order, Made in USA, Canada, Mexico, Europe, Central America and South America, Japan, and the rest of Asia.

Like I said, I am more than willing to pull this ad and admit, that you can buy new for less, but until you show me where, with part numbers and pictures, the ad stays.

I know that Lucas, Girling and TRW are now the same company. Of course, Lucas bought Girling before WWII, but TRW did not come into the picture, until around 2000, which is after these brakes were originally made. Of course, that being said, I only buy boot kit from TRW, because I can get ones not made in China.

As for remanufactured, I prefer to rebuild my own. That way I know what was wrong with the caliper to start with, who manufactured the replacement parts, and if the job was done properly.

Greg W.

[90quattrocoupe]

bump, still waiting on the part number.

Greg W.

[nater]

GCN....it's about time you kindly stop pissing in this guys Cheerios. It's his FS thread, per the rules please don't post unless interested in the item for sale.

Thanks,

[90quattrocoupe]

GCN....it's about time you kindly stop pissing in this guys Cheerios. It's his FS thread, per the rules please don't post unless interested in the item for sale.

Thanks,

You should not have deleted his posts. Make the rest of the thread, seem like nonsense.

Greg W.

[nater]

You should not have deleted his posts. Make the rest of the thread, seem like nonsense.

Greg W.

It seemed like much more nonsense before. His posts were reported by a member and since this is a FS ad they had to be removed. It's either I remove his posts or lock the thread.


Edit: this thread is locked anyway as this topic is posted across several forum platforms.