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      02-09-2012 03:00 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by MechEngg View Post
      Haha it definitely is chicken scratch, but mine looks very similar

      I would definitely do this instead of just a plug. With a plug you will need to seal the threads everytime. Also with them being NPT threads they are tapered in, the more you take the fitting in and out the more the taper will wear out and pretty soon the plug will go all the way in and then it won't seal anymore. With a drain **** it has a backseating o-ring and straight threads so it can be opened and closed without any wearing out. Plus it doesn't require a wrench since it has a wingnut shape, pretty much a no-brainer

      And i would empty it every week or so with a steel tank to stop all buildup of water in the tank. It depends on the moisture in the air where you live though so just do it often enough to prevent lots of sitting water. Plus with a draincock you can also drain just the water and then close it back up really quickly to keep the tank pressurized, so it is far easier to drain the tank
      yea, lol. and that was drawn at like 3am

      Ok, so the plugs that i will use, i would just plan on using teflon tape to seal the threads, like i do in aquariums at work. That defiantly seems easier to, and i wouldnt want the tank/or anything strip out if i keep removing it. That wouldnt be good. Hopefully too, that the WT will repeal out as most moisture that could possibly get in there, but seeing one a week wouldnt be a big deal, as i wash my car like twice a week lol. and so far, i appreciate all your information. Could i pick your brain on running dual compressors. most likely theyd be 400c's . Is it just a waste, or do you think one will be fine, remember ill have a 7gal tank. I probably wont be screwing with it alot, other then when i jsut get it, so i dont think i would use the compressor alot.

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      02-09-2012 03:01 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by MechEngg View Post
      He is ordering his piece by piece
      sorta
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      What are you doing for the rear bags?
      Air lift performance style bags.

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      02-09-2012 03:02 PM #28
      ** this is what i plan on ordering for people wondering **

      http://bagriders.com/modlab/products...ANAGEMENT.html

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      02-09-2012 03:03 PM #29
      I would run duals. To fill my 5 gal tank from 0 takes quite a bit. But for the most part your tank shouldn't get that low unless you drain it or you are playing around too much. If I ever get around to it I'm going to upgrade to duals

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      02-09-2012 03:04 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Shoopz View Post
      I would run duals. To fill my 5 gal tank from 0 takes quite a bit. But for the most part your tank shouldn't get that low unless you drain it or you are playing around too much. If I ever get around to it I'm going to upgrade to duals
      ya, thats what i was thinking too. just to help speed up the process alittle.

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      02-09-2012 03:04 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by jettaaddictionII View Post
      sorta

      Air lift performance style bags.
      Im on the fence on these. They don't go as low as others. But with trimming they can. Or for 200 more get bag yard rears. I might just shell out the extra cash.

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      02-09-2012 03:05 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by jettaaddictionII View Post
      ya, thats what i was thinking too. just to help speed up the process alittle.
      Also if for whatever reason one craps out you will always have a backup.

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      02-09-2012 03:05 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Shoopz View Post
      Im on the fence on these. They don't go as low as others. But with trimming they can. Or for 200 more get bag yard rears. I might just shell out the extra cash.
      Have you gotten anything yet? Or are you trying to decide like me

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      02-09-2012 03:07 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by jettaaddictionII View Post
      Have you gotten anything yet? Or are you trying to decide like me
      I have my management completely hooked up. Just need bags. But one of my friends has bagyard rears and another has airlifts. For my buddy to get as low as the bagyards took a bit of shaving

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      02-09-2012 03:09 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Shoopz View Post
      I have my management completely hooked up. Just need bags. But one of my friends has bagyard rears and another has airlifts. For my buddy to get as low as the bagyards took a bit of shaving
      Shaving of what? Case I wanna get low and ill have the air lift rears
      Swagga so nice i should notorize it

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      02-09-2012 03:10 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by Shoopz View Post
      I have my management completely hooked up. Just need bags. But one of my friends has bagyard rears and another has airlifts. For my buddy to get as low as the bagyards took a bit of shaving
      hmm thats something to think about, but my wheels do poke alittle, so i wont be worried about going super low as long as they hit the tire hah

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      02-09-2012 03:11 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by Chaoz View Post
      Shaving of what? Case I wanna get low and ill have the air lift rears
      probably where it mounts im guessing?

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      02-09-2012 03:11 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by Chaoz View Post
      Shaving of what? Case I wanna get low and ill have the air lift rears
      When I get out of class I'll ms paint a diagram. Hard to explain but you basically shave the top bracket down.

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      02-09-2012 03:12 PM #39
      But even then the bagyard rears are still lower

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      02-09-2012 03:20 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by jettaaddictionII View Post
      yea, lol. and that was drawn at like 3am

      Ok, so the plugs that i will use, i would just plan on using teflon tape to seal the threads, like i do in aquariums at work. That defiantly seems easier to, and i wouldnt want the tank/or anything strip out if i keep removing it. That wouldnt be good. Hopefully too, that the WT will repeal out as most m
      oisture that could possibly get in there, but seeing one a week wouldnt be a big deal, as i wash my car like twice a week lol. and so far, i appreciate all your information. Could i pick your brain on running dual compressors. most likely theyd be 400c's . Is it just a waste, or do you think one will be fine, remember ill have a 7gal tank. I probably wont be screwing with it alot, other then when i jsut get it, so i dont think i would use the compressor alot.
      Running 2 compressors is almost always better than 1. Plain and simple.

      Pro's
      Faster fill time
      backup incase 1 compressor fails
      will make your compressors run for less time = less heat produced = lower failure rate

      Con's
      More amperage draw on your charging system (battery & alternator)
      A bit more noise produced
      Fittings on tank can sometimes be hard to do depending on the tank style

      So up to you, mind you I am running 3 x AZ OB2's so my opinion may be slightly biased

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      02-09-2012 03:20 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by Shoopz View Post
      But even then the bagyard rears are still lower
      Ohhh ok
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      02-09-2012 03:29 PM #42
      I may actually do two compressors. I'm just not sure if I have to upgrade my wiring.

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      02-09-2012 03:35 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Shoopz View Post
      I may actually do two compressors. I'm just not sure if I have to upgrade my wiring.
      if you would just wire them together, or separate ?

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      02-09-2012 03:37 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by Shoopz View Post
      I may actually do two compressors. I'm just not sure if I have to upgrade my wiring.
      Find out the amperage draw from your compressors and multiply this by 12 (for @ voltage rating). This will give you the watt draw of your compressor. Divide this number by 10 (for low voltage shutdown condition of compressors). Multiply by general service factor of 1.15 (generic service factor for compressor start up. This final number will give you the maximum amperage draw of your compressors under worst case circumstances, so you need to design your wiring to this level.

      Use the charts below for for this specific companies power wire. I highly recommend their stuff, great flexibility and amazing amperage ratings. Click on the specifications tab to get the amperage rating for 0, 4 and 8 gauge wires, pick one that works for you.


      OFC Chart
      http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDe...odID=KFX0BL-50

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      02-09-2012 03:48 PM #45
      * i now plan on running dual compressors, probably either the 380c or the 400c. So now this means ill need two watertraps, each up to each compressor. *
      i found a pic of a good idea/set-up


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      02-09-2012 04:12 PM #46
      Any benefit running two compressor? I will only have a 5 gal tank so that should fill pretty quick right?
      Swagga so nice i should notorize it

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      02-09-2012 04:18 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by Chaoz View Post
      Any benefit running two compressor? I will only have a 5 gal tank so that should fill pretty quick right?
      Mechengg. Thanks for the formula and links.

      But it takes about 10 mins for my 5 gallon to fill using one 400 I'll get more accurate test when I go home later I'll just drain it. It's quite annoying if you go from zero.

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      02-09-2012 04:22 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Shoopz View Post
      Mechengg. Thanks for the formula and links.

      But it takes about 10 mins for my 5 gallon to fill using one 400 I'll get more accurate test when I go home later I'll just drain it. It's quite annoying if you go from zero.
      Yea but do you usually go from 0? I'll be running a 444
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      02-09-2012 04:28 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by jettaaddictionII View Post
      ** this is what i plan on ordering for people wondering **

      http://bagriders.com/modlab/products...ANAGEMENT.html
      that should serve you fine. you probably will need random fitting depending on how you mount everything.

      Quote Originally Posted by Shoopz View Post
      I would run duals. To fill my 5 gal tank from 0 takes quite a bit. But for the most part your tank shouldn't get that low unless you drain it or you are playing around too much. If I ever get around to it I'm going to upgrade to duals
      I'm running dual 380's so cal stance was doing a deal where i got the second one free.
      Quote Originally Posted by jettaaddictionII View Post
      oh alright. but ill just run a WT jut because i will be going with a steel tank, for only 30.00, better safe then sorry
      i have a steel tank and no trap haha. ill probably add one when i get my v2.


      and when you run dual comps you dont necessarily need two water traps, you can use some fittings to go from the braided line to regular airline and then use a Y Ptc to turn the two lines into one and then into the tank where you water trap would be mounted.
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      02-09-2012 04:30 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by Chaoz View Post
      Yea but do you usually go from 0? I'll be running a 444
      You will be fine. You will get used to the noise. If you can afford it though it will be better. My dual 380's take about 2 and a half minutes to fill up from when they kick on.
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