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    02-12-2012 11:47 AM #71
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    They don't say hella...
    Isn't "hella" German for "overpriced"?

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    02-12-2012 07:16 PM #72
    Spent some time coding the car - used 15 for byte 18 and had no error messages and I thought I was home free...until I watched the vid and saw the weird led behavior...kinda cool looking and creepy and the same time. So I switched to 1F and all is well until I can wire up the rear fog - I have a bulb out error for the rear fog light.


  3. 02-12-2012 08:51 PM #73
    I think the camera just makes it look like that.. what kinda exhaust is that?

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    02-12-2012 09:01 PM #74
    Quote Originally Posted by CWmk6gti View Post
    I think the camera just makes it look like that.. what kinda exhaust is that?
    Yep, the camera frame rate and the LED flash rate will go in and out of sync making LEDs look weird in videos....it's aliasing....like when the spokes on a car wheel will look like they are not moving or moving backwards etc. in a video.

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    02-12-2012 09:03 PM #75
    soo...the coding solution for running the fog as a reverse light causes an error...damn...i really don't want a rear fog again...i missed the second reverse light on my rabbit

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    02-12-2012 09:04 PM #76
    Quote Originally Posted by afrost View Post
    Yep, the camera frame rate and the LED flash rate will go in and out of sync making LEDs look weird in videos....it's aliasing....like when the spokes on a car wheel will look like they are not moving or moving backwards etc. in a video.
    Why does it not do that when I code it back to 1F ( the second part of the vid). The only difference is the coding done about 5 minutes apart

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    02-12-2012 09:06 PM #77
    Quote Originally Posted by CWmk6gti View Post
    I think the camera just makes it look like that.. what kinda exhaust is that?
    APR tbe with an added resonator..

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    02-12-2012 09:07 PM #78
    Quote Originally Posted by ferdinand1 View Post
    Why does it not do that when I code it back to 1F ( the second part of the vid). The only difference is the coding done about 5 minutes apart
    Maybe it only provides a modulated voltage when it's coded for LEDs instead of a DC signal for incandescent bulbs. The DC signal won't have any aliasing on video.


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    02-12-2012 09:09 PM #79
    Quote Originally Posted by afrost View Post
    Yep, the camera frame rate and the LED flash rate will go in and out of sync making LEDs look weird in videos....it's aliasing....like when the spokes on a car wheel will look like they are not moving or moving backwards etc. in a video.
    That would cause the strange very slow illumination? I can see leds flickering, but this is totally different - the leds slowly glow and then turn on, not at all like how they behave in the second part of the vid when I code back to 1F..

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    02-12-2012 09:11 PM #80
    Quote Originally Posted by ferdinand1 View Post
    That would cause the strange very slow illumination? I can see leds flickering, but this is totally different - the leds slowly glow and then turn on, not at all like how they behave in the second part of the vid when I code back to 1F..
    Yeah it can do that, it depends on how close the frequency is and how slowly they are drifting out of sync.

    Long story short have somebody stand behind your car and tell you if it looks ok instead of using the camera, or have somebody else start your car and look for yourself.

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    02-12-2012 09:17 PM #81
    just got mine in, and they look great upon initial inspection.
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    02-12-2012 10:29 PM #82
    Quote Originally Posted by afrost View Post
    Yeah it can do that, it depends on how close the frequency is and how slowly they are drifting out of sync.

    Long story short have somebody stand behind your car and tell you if it looks ok instead of using the camera, or have somebody else start your car and look for yourself.
    You Rock! 15 works like a champ and no bulb out error! Weird how that looked on video!

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    02-13-2012 02:54 AM #83
    Those are the best non OEM tails so far, but it looks like the LEDs and/or small light diffusers are different from the OEM lights. It's hard to tell in pictures. For saving that much money I can see why people are attracted to them.

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    02-13-2012 10:36 AM #84
    ok, so changing Byte18 to "15" will make it all work just fine? and does that make the rear fog a reverse light, or does it make the rear fog operate as a rear fog (assuming you do the appropriate rewiring in the CECM) ?
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    02-13-2012 01:55 PM #85
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    02-13-2012 02:33 PM #86
    Quote Originally Posted by evosky View Post
    ok, so changing Byte18 to "15" will make it all work just fine? and does that make the rear fog a reverse light, or does it make the rear fog operate as a rear fog (assuming you do the appropriate rewiring in the CECM) ?
    Coding is different for many cars, even between some with the same MY and headlight config

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    02-13-2012 03:21 PM #87
    Quote Originally Posted by intoflatlines View Post
    Coding is different for many cars, even between some with the same MY and headlight config
    that's what i figured, gotta just do some code-playing i guess.
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    02-13-2012 03:35 PM #88
    Quote Originally Posted by evosky View Post
    that's what i figured, gotta just do some code-playing i guess.
    I am a 2011 with hid and the following codes are what I used - I tried 1F and it gave me a bulb out error for the rear fog. I used 55 and the rear fog was always illuminated. I used 04 and got multiple bulb out errors. 15 seems to have done the trick and the rear fog lights up as a reverse light with the reverse light.

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    02-13-2012 03:41 PM #89
    i'm a 2010 with HIDs and a build date of 12/09 i think ... so i'm like on the border for the newer CECM, i might have the newer one though because i can do the gauge staging and have already done the euroswitch+trigger wire, so i'll have to double check when i do the coding with my buddy's vcds
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    02-13-2012 03:57 PM #90
    Quote Originally Posted by ferdinand1 View Post
    I am a 2011 with hid and the following codes are what I used - I tried 1F and it gave me a bulb out error for the rear fog. I used 55 and the rear fog was always illuminated. I used 04 and got multiple bulb out errors. 15 seems to have done the trick and the rear fog lights up as a reverse light with the reverse light.
    So, it sounds like that's still not the correct code, or have you not yet done the required wiring for the rear fog function?

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    02-13-2012 03:57 PM #91
    Quote Originally Posted by ferdinand1 View Post
    Live in Burnsville and work in Minneapolis...and I'm all over Minneapolis during the day..wherever there is a Minneapolis Public School....so seeing them shouldn't be a problem.
    Hey man I'm in burnsville myself, can I come out and check them out?? You want to meet at Burnsville VW on of these days??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmeeee View Post
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to look more like?

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    02-13-2012 04:02 PM #92
    Quote Originally Posted by evosky View Post
    i'm a 2010 with HIDs and a build date of 12/09 i think ... so i'm like on the border for the newer CECM, i might have the newer one though because i can do the gauge staging and have already done the euroswitch+trigger wire, so i'll have to double check when i do the coding with my buddy's vcds
    Is your rear fog hooked up? If so, code it to 43. 04 will work as well but you will get the parking lights to be very dim. Though the advantage of that is you can run any kind of led's without bulb out error.

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    02-13-2012 04:03 PM #93
    Quote Originally Posted by intoflatlines View Post
    So, it sounds like that's still not the correct code, or have you not yet done the required wiring for the rear fog function?
    I haven't installed the trigger wire for the rear fogs - and it looks like only the reverse light comes on when I back up - the rear fog stays off.

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    02-13-2012 04:05 PM #94
    Quote Originally Posted by brakedust View Post
    Hey man I'm in burnsville myself, can I come out and check them out?? You want to meet at Burnsville VW on of these days??
    Let me know when you want to see them and I will see if I can be available Burnsville VW isn't too far from me.

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    02-13-2012 04:54 PM #95
    Quote Originally Posted by ferdinand1 View Post
    Let me know when you want to see them and I will see if I can be available Burnsville VW isn't too far from me.
    Let me know what spot works for you, I'm flexible. I'd like to check them out in person.

    I'm getting my OEM's in a 2-3 weeks, maybe we can compare them then as well and check the "quality" differences .

    Any day this week after 3PM.

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    02-13-2012 07:38 PM #96
    Quote Originally Posted by blackgl98 View Post
    Is your rear fog hooked up? If so, code it to 43. 04 will work as well but you will get the parking lights to be very dim. Though the advantage of that is you can run any kind of led's without bulb out error.
    i havent done the wire transfer yet for the rear fog. just installed the lights, will be posting up a vid shortly of what it does on mine (though i can't say for certain my exact coding until i get a vagcom hooked up).

    going to be honest here: there are quality/fitment issues with these lights. my buddy who also got the same lights has seen the same issues as well.
    - there are gaps due to the lights not being the exact same size as the OEM lights. the outers currently stick out further than the inners. the outers also leave a larger-than-OEM gap between the bottom and the top of the bumper. the inners leave a larger than normal gap on the top and between the outer. you could probably do some tab flexing/trimming on the lights themselves to get a better fitment but not by too much.
    - there are some noticeable but small streaks of what look like glue drips on the interior. very small and not many (like 2 or 3).
    - i noticed in 1-2 places where the outer red plastic wasn't molded as well as an OEM light would be (aka not perfectly straight or smooth)

    overall, yes these are replicas if you want to get down to it. they function the way they're supposed to and look the part. no, these are not as good as an OEM would be when it comes to quality/fitment. is that $300-$400 difference worth it? that's really subjective. if fitment were better, i would be really happy right now. for the price, not too shabby. take it for what it's worth.
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    I'll break it down for you simple minded people. VWvortex. The VW stands for Volkswagen. And when you create a forum, admins can create sections within the forum. This forum has a section for general car chit-chat. The car lounge. So you see, even though it's a VW forum, you can still discuss other topics.

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    02-13-2012 07:48 PM #97
    and here's the quick vid i shot. at least they look good lit up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSavvy View Post
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    02-13-2012 07:58 PM #98
    So the Fog light is that red one on the left side when you are in reverse while the right side is the only backup lamp then?

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    02-13-2012 08:00 PM #99
    Quote Originally Posted by fiveflat View Post
    So the Fog light is that red one on the left side when you are in reverse while the right side is the only backup lamp then?
    correct
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    02-13-2012 08:52 PM #100
    looks good... I'm at the edge and almost want some
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    02-14-2012 12:14 AM #101
    very nice!!
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    02-14-2012 11:26 AM #102
    Quote Originally Posted by fiveflat View Post
    So the Fog light is that red one on the left side when you are in reverse while the right side is the only backup lamp then?
    Quote Originally Posted by evosky View Post
    correct

    Interesting. So does the euro switch allow you to turn that fog on while driving? I'm assuming that's the idea, is that light should be on so someone spots you as they barrel up behind you?
    Fog in my area gets so thick you can't see the end of your hood at times. I like the idea of the rear fog now if my assumptions are correct.

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    02-14-2012 12:24 PM #103
    yes, you need to do the correct wire swapping and coding as well. the euroswitch has a setting (basically pull out again after turning on the front fogs) to turn on the rear fog.
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    02-14-2012 03:25 PM #104
    I havent coded my tail lights yet but I notice that one of my fog lights now turn on when i turn left or right when they are not on. Its pretty cool but was wondering if this happen to anybody else

    Example when I'm turning left the left fog light turns on until i go stright again.

    Will make a video if anybody wants me too.

  35. 02-14-2012 03:37 PM #105
    Quote Originally Posted by wigglysqiggly View Post
    I havent coded my tail lights yet but I notice that one of my fog lights now turn on when i turn left or right when they are not on. Its pretty cool but was wondering if this happen to anybody else

    Example when I'm turning left the left fog light turns on until i go stright again.

    Will make a video if anybody wants me too.
    This is enabled via vagcom, and maybe some from the factory. It's normal


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