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    Thread: Is the $280 Godspeed SMIC too expensive for you??

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      02-10-2012 05:34 PM #1
      Well there's now a solution! Less than $135 shipped!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...m=251054481322

      Had to order one for the price, it arrived today and I have to say I'm impressed. A little bigger than the Godspeed SMIC, dense fins in the core, cast T6061 end tanks, solid welds, nice bead rolled inlet/outlet, uses all the factory mounting points and hardware... I honestly don't know how they do it.

      I'll take some high res pics and document the install in a couple of weeks, just wanted to spread the word
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      02-10-2012 05:38 PM #2
      LOL.
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    3. 02-10-2012 05:50 PM #3
      Meh, id rather have a silicone intakes/frozen boost intercooler core for the same price...
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    4. 02-10-2012 07:14 PM #4
      So for $135 you can saw off the endtanks and weld in a Bell or Garrett core for another $250? for a solid SMIC.
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    5. 02-10-2012 07:33 PM #5
      ive had this one on for over a month now its solid for the price, compared to my buddys eurojet its identical literally like the same
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      02-10-2012 07:41 PM #6
      it actually does look a little better than the godspeed SIMC to me
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      02-10-2012 07:57 PM #7
      Taco Taco

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      02-10-2012 08:15 PM #8
      Thad go well with the gt35 twin scroll that ilovetacotaco sells for $260

      Seriously thou for 135 why not try it... for a stage 1-1+ type thing. Keeps the stock mounting point too.
      Hell I've seen people asking for 100 bucks for a used oem smic.

      Let us know how it goes. Hopefully its not made of wood.

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      02-10-2012 09:42 PM #9
      Here's how it stacks up against other SMICs in core size:

      Boost Factory: 8.1" x 8" x 6" = 389 cu in
      Tyrolsport: 10" x 8.1" x 4.5" = 365 cu in
      Eurojet: 8" x 8" x 5" = 320 cu in
      Taco cooler: 7" x 8.25" x 5.125" = 305 cu in
      Kraut-Burner: 8" x 8.4" x 4.5" = 302 cu in
      Godspeed: 8" x 7.5" x 5" = 300 cu in
      Forge: 8.3" x 8.3" x 3.9" = 269 cu in
      Stock: 7.25" x 8" x 3.5" = 203 cu in

      Disclaimer: core size is just one of the many measures of an intercooler's performance
      Last edited by bootymac; 02-10-2012 at 10:33 PM.

    10. 02-10-2012 09:59 PM #10
      "This item is produced for off-road or show purpose only. This item is not suitable for regular driving. User must follow the direction given and any misuse of this product is at his/her own risk. The Manufacturer, Distributor, and retailer will not be held responsible for using this item other than specified above."

      LOL. Guess it is ok for rally racing but not daily driving It's amazing what kids can make these days

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      02-10-2012 10:03 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by HighFive_GTI View Post
      "This item is produced for off-road or show purpose only. This item is not suitable for regular driving. User must follow the direction given and any misuse of this product is at his/her own risk. The Manufacturer, Distributor, and retailer will not be held responsible for using this item other than specified above."

      LOL. Guess it is ok for rally racing but not daily driving It's amazing what kids can make these days
      most aftermarket engine parts are for "off road" use only for legal reasons
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    12. 02-10-2012 10:13 PM #12
      Are they also "not suitable for regular driving"?

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      02-10-2012 10:15 PM #13
      I have had one on my car for around six months, it works and fits great.
      but because it doesn't have a name brand and cost $500 it must suck.

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      02-10-2012 10:15 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      most aftermarket engine parts are for "off road" use only for legal reasons
      Especially in CA where taco taco seems to be based

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      02-10-2012 10:21 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by HighFive_GTI View Post
      Are they also "not suitable for regular driving"?
      Almost ALL aftermarket parts have the "off road use only" disclaimer

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      02-10-2012 10:28 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by bootymac View Post
      Here's how it stacks up against other SMICs in core size:

      Boost Factory: 8.1" x 8" x 6" = 389 cu in
      Tyrolsport: 10" x 8.1" x 4.5" = 365 cu in
      Eurojet: 8" x 8" x 5" = 320 cu in
      Taco cooler: 7" x 8.25" x 5.125" = 305 cu in
      Kraut-Burner: 8" x 8.4" x 4.5" = 302 cu in
      Godspeed: 8" x 7.5" x 5" = 300 cu in
      Forge: 8.3" x 8.3" x 3.9" = 269 cu in

      Disclaimer: core size is just one of the many measures of an intercooler's performance
      Just curious, how do these compare to OEM SMIC volume?

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      02-10-2012 10:31 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Charlie_M View Post
      Just curious, how do these compare to OEM SMIC volume?
      Good question. I believe the OEM intercooler's core is 7.25"H x 8"W x 3.5"D, giving it a 203 cu in volume.

    18. 02-10-2012 11:23 PM #18
      Then there's the Apikol side mount with dimensions of 10"L x 8.1"W x 4.5"D which they claim is 110% bigger than stock (this is the unit I run on my passat)
      Should put it @ around 420 cu. in. (if you believe their claims).
      The Tyrolsport has the same dimensions but the Apikol has bigger end tanks.
      Of course it DOES cost around $550... (I bought mine for $475, seems the price has gone up since).





      From their site:
      The following plots were produced during a test to compare the Apikol B5 (1998- 2001) A4 1.8t Side Mounted Intercooler (SMIC) with the stock Audi Side Mounted Intercooler. The test was conducted using a Superflow 4-wheel chassis dynamometer to measure horsepower, torque and air/fuel ratio. Intake air temperatures (intercooler outlet temperatures) were measured and logged utilizing the Shade Tree Software ProDiag tool. The test was performed with a Stage 1 Audi A4 (K04 turbo, Hi-Flow CAT, APR Stage 1 software, Milltek exhaust, Apikol throttle body hose, and a custom Apikol downpipe). Each intercooler was on the car for 3 full- pull dyno runs, with the car being allowed to cool between the both of the SMIC tests. The results were very impressive! On average, by the end of each dyno pull the intake temperatures using the stock intercooler were 30+ degrees (F) hotter than the intake temperatures using the Apikol SMIC. This extreme reduction of intake air temperature with the APIKOL SMIC resulted in power gains of 17+hp and 22+ ft-lbs of torque!! The increased efficiency and cooling ability of the APIKOL SMIC allows your A4 1.8t to consistently produce power, with greatly reduced losses due to intercooler heat soaking effects.
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      02-10-2012 11:54 PM #19
      I don't think apikol lists one (or much of anything) for these A chassis guys. They may fab one if you ask em but there seems to be a lot of other models available for mk4. I wish there was as much choice for the B5.

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      02-11-2012 12:18 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by hithard02 View Post
      I have had one on my car for around six months, it works and fits great.
      but because it doesn't have a name brand and cost $500 it must suck.
      It really is a nice looking piece. I was honestly expecting total junk and was very pleasantly surprised.

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      02-11-2012 12:36 AM #21

      6 months no issues from taco taco for $100 just had to drill out the hole for the map sensor
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      02-11-2012 12:52 AM #22
      It is the same quality as all the other "cheaper" side mounts at a great price. They are all made in china like godspeed but sold for half the price.
      The only difference, they don't come with a name brand.
      I understand how most of you don't want to put cheap china parts on your German built cars. News flash fuc*ers your car was built in Mexico with chinese parts.



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      02-11-2012 10:05 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by HighFive_GTI View Post
      Are they also "not suitable for regular driving"?
      dont be stupid. if you don't know i don't know


      the newer pics of the taco taco smic looks pretty good to me. i'd still rather have a fmic, but you def can't beat this for the price
      Last edited by Big_Tom; 02-11-2012 at 10:08 AM.
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      02-11-2012 11:39 AM #27
      For this price, I really could not pass it up haha so...ordered! Thanks for sharing this OP. I'll post up pictures/comments as soon as I can. I mean if it sucks, it wasn't that much of a gamble
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      02-11-2012 11:50 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by suffocatemymind View Post
      For this price, I really could not pass it up haha so...ordered! Thanks for sharing this OP. I'll post up pictures/comments as soon as I can. I mean if it sucks, it wasn't that much of a gamble
      lol
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      02-11-2012 01:31 PM #29
      thanks for posting this... looks effin' solid! and whata great price...now if they are located somewhere in LA? that would be perfect so i can just pick it up and not pay that 30 bux shipping...called this number==(626)667-2570 but not open on weekends...

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      02-11-2012 03:38 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by suffocatemymind View Post
      For this price, I really could not pass it up haha so...ordered! Thanks for sharing this OP. I'll post up pictures/comments as soon as I can. I mean if it sucks, it wasn't that much of a gamble
      Just finished installing mine. Everything fit spot on, I'm not kidding when I say the end tank sits completely flush with the bumper and valance once you put that back on. Very snug!

      You'll need a "small" MAP sensor if you don't have one. I contemplated drilling out the 3 mounting tabs to accept the stock rubber isolators, but with all my urethane engine mounts and the silicone couplers up and downstream of the SMIC, I decided it wasn't really necessary.

      Have to log some IATs once I get the car back on the road next week, so far I have to say I'm pretty happy with the $130 spent.

      Quote Originally Posted by krafty-max View Post
      thanks for posting this... looks effin' solid! and whata great price...now if they are located somewhere in LA? that would be perfect so i can just pick it up and not pay that 30 bux shipping...called this number==(626)667-2570 but not open on weekends...
      But it's free shipping

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      02-11-2012 04:14 PM #31
      Thanks for the heads up OP!!! Just placed my order!!

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      02-11-2012 04:29 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.8 guy View Post
      Thanks for the heads up OP!!! Just placed my order!!


      If you look at the purchase history someone bought 15 of these from the seller. Either they own A LOT of 1.8Ts, or they plan on reselling these with a markup through another outlet. Keep your eyes out!

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      02-11-2012 05:43 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by 4ceFed4 View Post


      If you look at the purchase history someone bought 15 of these from the seller. Either they own A LOT of 1.8Ts, or they plan on reselling these with a markup through another outlet. Keep your eyes out!

      Hahaha!! I figured I better jump on this asap...once people catch wind either the price will go up or some other bs will happen. Question... was the small map sensor from earlier 1.8's? Don't wanna have to drill out the hole...Thanks again!!

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      02-11-2012 05:55 PM #34
      nevermind...got it!!

    35. 02-11-2012 07:13 PM #35
      wait... my map sensor fit on fine? i dont understand 04.5 gli? im trying to diagnose my surge/overboost maybe the oring on the map is effed idk.. ugh
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