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      02-11-2012 03:33 PM #1
      My indie says he can change the timing belt without removing the front of the car. Is this possible . If so can the seals etc also be replaced this way. He wants $800 for the job seems high to me.
      Any thoughts

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      02-11-2012 08:23 PM #2
      LOOOOOOOOOL that's not possible

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      02-11-2012 08:38 PM #3
      If you've got reeeally skinny arms, I suppose it could be done... Or maybe he means he'll just slide it out instead of fully removing it. That's common. And BTW, $800 isn't a bad price for a proper timing belt job on a V6. It's more work than a 1.8T.

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      02-11-2012 09:21 PM #4
      Lol he must be a miracle worker!

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      02-12-2012 08:52 AM #5
      I guess it's possible, if he likes making it harder on himself. And $800 is about the going indy rate for a B5 t-belt job (and that's w/ removing the front end).
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      02-12-2012 08:56 AM #6
      I'm pretty sure theres someone around ur area that can do it cheaper than $800. I got mine done at a steal price for $300

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      02-12-2012 11:31 AM #7
      Anybody in Ct that can change a timing belt on a 01 V6 passat at a reasonable price.
      Thanks

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      02-12-2012 11:32 AM #8
      What do you mean by sliding out ?

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      02-12-2012 11:39 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by tr6g View Post
      What do you mean by sliding out ?
      The "front of the car" is supposed to move out of the way for service - in fact, this is called "service position". There's two ways to do this: You can insert a special VW rig (or a couple of long bolts) and literally slide the part of the car ahead of the engine several inches forward. This lets you do most things without disconnecting the various hoses and wires, or draining anything.

      Or, for more ambitious repairs, you can take the section off entirely and set it aside for better access to components. Clear?

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      02-12-2012 12:53 PM #10
      Why don't u take some time drive around and go to 10-15 shops and ask for an estimate? Thats what I did, I did actually get one idiot that said $1500 and it would take 14hrs of labor. I wanted to literally slap him lol

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      02-12-2012 07:01 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by tr6g View Post
      My indie says he can change the timing belt without removing the front of the car. Is this possible . If so can the seals etc also be replaced this way. He wants $800 for the job seems high to me.
      Any thoughts
      Here is my car just after getting the bumper off. I needed more room than just putting the bumper in the service mode. This did just fine, and without disconnecting the air conditioner lines too. You just have to be careful not to bend or stress the lines too much
      Uploaded from the Photobucket iPhone App

      Watch this youtube video. It's on the 2001 Audi A4, but the Audi is identical to our B5 Passat's You'll see why it's required to remove the front.
      Notice he says "it's a little more interesting than your typical timing belt/water pump job" LOL
      Last edited by PassatFan1; 02-12-2012 at 07:10 PM.

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      02-12-2012 08:32 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by passatv6AF View Post
      I'm pretty sure theres someone around ur area that can do it cheaper than $800. I got mine done at a steal price for $300
      Including parts? That's about what the parts cost, wholesale. And if you didn't do the water pump while they had it apart, it was silly.
      Quote Originally Posted by MRVW00
      my GF's love to show me their t!ts....and I like to motorboat them so much they call me Chris Craft...

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      02-12-2012 09:03 PM #13
      I bought the parts for $285 from ecstuning, which included, timing belt, serpentine belt, tensioner, idle roller, water pump, thermostat, g12 coolant and the seals (might be missing something). COMPARED PRICES FROM EVERYWHERE AND ECSTUNING BY FAR HAD BEST PRICE THAT I FOUND THAT PRICE. Labor cost me $300 which came out too $585 all together. I got a bad as deal!

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      02-12-2012 10:36 PM #14
      after watching that video I am fully ready to to do the job my self. I ahve been sitting on the parts for over two years. Should be a no brainer now.

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      02-12-2012 10:57 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by passatv6AF View Post
      I bought the parts for $285 from ecstuning, which included, timing belt, serpentine belt, tensioner, idle roller, water pump, thermostat, g12 coolant and the seals (might be missing something). COMPARED PRICES FROM EVERYWHERE AND ECSTUNING BY FAR HAD BEST PRICE THAT I FOUND THAT PRICE. Labor cost me $300 which came out too $585 all together. I got a bad as deal!
      So you didn't get it done for $300, you got it done for almost $600. Not really that far off from the $800 the OP posted, if it includes parts. Shops are entitled to make money on parts, and $300 labor for a B5 or B5.5 V6 t-belt is CHEAP. I'm guessing it was a deal from a friend, as a lot of shops will supply both the parts and the labor.
      Quote Originally Posted by MRVW00
      my GF's love to show me their t!ts....and I like to motorboat them so much they call me Chris Craft...

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      02-12-2012 10:58 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by The Captin View Post
      after watching that video I am fully ready to to do the job my self. I ahve been sitting on the parts for over two years. Should be a no brainer now.
      And it should take you <10 min!
      Quote Originally Posted by MRVW00
      my GF's love to show me their t!ts....and I like to motorboat them so much they call me Chris Craft...

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      02-12-2012 11:22 PM #17
      I bought the parts as well from ECS tunning, should have mentioned that above sorry, Best deal by far. My local shaddy tree wrench want 450 to install. he wont do it the way in the movie above but he still remove the front of the car mosly by keeps the AC hooked up. Its a manly a time intensive job. I would take it on my self, just dont have the time.

      Nate

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      02-13-2012 02:46 PM #18
      I got most everything I needed from rockauto.com It's more expensive kit's out there you can buy with everything included, but being on a budget I found it more economical to research on all the parts needed and order them separately.

      It took me 4 full 12hr days to do the job. My car had the dreaded oil leak for some time, so I spent 20 minutes on every part as I dismantled them off the car. The grime build up was so bad. So I spent quite some time just cleaning. Plus not really being a mechanic I was always second guessing my work. I was always checking and rechecking everything as I put it all back together. The manual that I was working with was the Haynes manual. It had most the main torque specs but not on things like the mounting bolts for the mechanical fan pully to engine block. It was a few other specs that I can remember off the top of my head. But the next big job that I do I'll definitely invest on a Bentley manual. BTW can anyone here that has the Bentley look up the specs on the pulley mount bolts for the mechanical fan? I'd like to make sure their snug.

      But now that Im all finished, I have a good mechanically sound car. The engine front and top half is clean as a whistle. But I still have to have the back lower half degreased and pressure washed sometime soon. Anyone know of some good degreasers that can cut through the toughest grime build up?
      Last edited by PassatFan1; 02-13-2012 at 02:54 PM.

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      02-14-2012 01:06 PM #19
      Per the Bentley on page D19-3, you torque the three pulley bolts to 22 ft-lb (30Nm). It says the torque for the viscous coupling is 30 ft-lb (40Nm), but only when used w/ a VW SST open-jaw spanner. I have no idea what it would convert to if you use a socket.
      Quote Originally Posted by MRVW00
      my GF's love to show me their t!ts....and I like to motorboat them so much they call me Chris Craft...

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      02-16-2012 06:49 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Mk1Racer View Post
      Per the Bentley on page D19-3, you torque the three pulley bolts to 22 ft-lb (30Nm). It says the torque for the viscous coupling is 30 ft-lb (40Nm), but only when used w/ a VW SST open-jaw spanner. I have no idea what it would convert to if you use a socket.
      Thanks. I'll be sure to re-torque them to the specs you given me

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      02-17-2012 11:52 PM #21
      I got my kit from Blauparts, bought the tools from ZD mak and I did the job in one big day, the kit from blauparts is incredibile, it has a step by step homemade instruction manual that tell you all the special care you need to watch out for, it gives you also all the torque specs and bolts size,it has spare bolts that they know they can break off, all kind of good stuff overall. I think that while you are changing the belt you should change all the stuff around it and that's what this kit is.They will rent you the tools if you live in the U.S. I did put the car in the service position, it takes 30 minutes and give you so much more access so you can see what you are doing. Let me know if you need any clues,I was pretty proud of doing this myself. I had gotten an estimate from a local VW shop at 1700.00$ so I had a few spare dollars in case of a glitch.

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      02-18-2012 06:35 PM #22
      Hey whats up. I own an '05 Passat V6 wagon and recently had my TB done. I don't know how close you are to Glastonbury, but I called Montessi in Meriden, the Hartford VW, and Langan in Glastonbury. Out of the three, after asking all the right questions, Langan was the only one that didn't seem to be blowing smoke up my @$$. The price was the cheapest, and the service guy explained everything about the job to me. I ended up paying $1,100 for the job, but I needed to get it done; that's my only car, and I was at 75k. I wasn't taking any chances. Anyways, call them up 860-633-0261. I am in no way affiliated with any of these dealers.

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      02-24-2012 10:47 AM #23
      Did you do the whole job while in service postion. Seal, water pump etc.
      Thanks
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