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    Thread: 2013 allroad - initial impressions

    1. Member SoSuMi's Avatar
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      04-15-2012 11:49 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by TREGinginCO View Post
      Audi corporate says pre-orders to arrive in June and general release late summer.
      If that's the situation, then you will be at the front (or nearly) of the line for the NA release. Luckily this model has been out long enough in Europe for any needed beta testing.

      Oh, and save up some coin for an ECU reflash. I had one on my '09 Avant and really liked the extra kick.
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      05-31-2012 05:03 PM #27
      Very excited about this weekend. I'm getting to take my dealer's launch edition allroad for an extended test drive. I will have it for most of the weekend.... returning it Monday morning.



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      06-04-2012 05:08 PM #28
      Spent most of the weekend with the allroad... and I'm really impressed with the U.S. version.

      LIKES:
      I like the 8-speed transmission ---- A LOT!!! I like it even more than the 7speed S-Tronic in the Euro version. You hit the gas... the transmission goes right to the correct gear and doesn't waste any time getting there.

      Steering is very nicely weighted. Light at slow speeds and just the right amount of heft at cruising speed.

      Both kiddos car seats (one booster... one complete system for a newborn) fit nicely in the back seats.

      The MMI is so easy to navigate around. Within a couple of hours you can easily get to diffents menus with nearly no "eye time" away from the road.

      The thing is rock solid and feels even more ambitious than the Euro version.

      The new, revised front end and updated DRL's are dynamite!!!!!!!

      DISLIKES:
      I was really hoping the rear turn signals would flash amber like the Euro version... but everything back there is a VERY, VERY BRIGHT red. Maybe a little hacking around with a VAG-Com will find the coding to change that.

      The location of the handle to adjust the steering wheel is still too far down the steering column... but it is closer than the Euro version I drove ---- can't figure that one out.



      I am really, really excited now for mine to get here.... because it really is a stellar vehicle.


      And one more thing.... it's favorite highway cruising speed is 90mph. No matter how light you are on the throttle... this thing likes to get to that speed and hang out there.
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      06-04-2012 11:31 PM #29
      Nice that you had some seat time prior to delivery. Did the allroad list much in the corners? I had an '09 Avant with the sports suspension. It really stayed flat through the corners. OTOH, it wasn't exactly the best when the pavement went third world, which sometimes happens when getting to a kayak launch site.

      My current kayak hauler is fine but it ain't no Audi.
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      06-04-2012 11:43 PM #30
      There is an available sports suspension ---- this one did NOT have it.

      It's very flat in the corners ---- very sticky. Great road feel without feeling like you're going to shake your dental work loose!!!!

      It's really a terrific vehicle.

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      06-05-2012 02:29 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by TREGinginCO View Post
      There is an available sports suspension ---- this one did NOT have it.

      It's very flat in the corners ---- very sticky. Great road feel without feeling like you're going to shake your dental work loose!!!!

      It's really a terrific vehicle.
      I'm gonna have to give one a test drive the next time I stop by the dealer. Thanks for the update.
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      06-05-2012 06:33 PM #32
      Oy.... just got an update on when my vehicle is going to arrive.


      It's scheduled for production starting July 9th.

      Expected arrival at my dealership: Second week of August.


      This is turning into an exercise in patience!!!!

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      06-05-2012 10:56 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by TREGinginCO View Post
      Oy.... just got an update on when my vehicle is going to arrive.


      It's scheduled for production starting July 9th.

      Expected arrival at my dealership: Second week of August.


      This is turning into an exercise in patience!!!!
      Well that sucks. But maybe the wait will make your summer seem longer, and that's a good thing
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      06-06-2012 03:32 AM #34
      Did you happen to notice what the gas mileage was like on your weekend long test drive?

      The EPA estimate of 20 city and 27 highway seem low.

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      06-06-2012 07:23 PM #35
      I think the EPA estimates are low --- and I'm glad you asked... because just today I calculated the fuel I used and came up with the following number.

      28 MPG

      I drove about 90-percent highway.... speeds between 75mph and 90mph.

      This was with a car that only had 415 miles on the odometer.

      I truly believe this thing will be capable of 31 or 32mpg on the highway as the engine breaks in.

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      06-06-2012 07:24 PM #36
      Well.. it looks like I'm going to have to sell my current car outright as my dealership and I are pretty far apart.

      Fortunately it likely won't be an issue as the Sportwagen TDI is a very desirable vehicle here in these parts of the world.

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      06-06-2012 09:45 PM #37
      Your gas mileage sounds encouraging especially when driving at those speeds. I don't normally drive at 90mph, but 70mph is fairly typical. I was worried that the EPA highway test was equivalent to 55mph so driving faster would make it even worse.

      Thanks for the info!

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      06-07-2012 01:58 AM #38
      At 75mph the engine is loafing at 1800rpms in 8th gear. Amazing.

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      06-07-2012 02:34 AM #39
      This might be the wrong thread to ask this, but I was wondering what made you decide to trade in your Jetta Sportwagen TDI for the allroad.

      I have a 99 Passat wagon and I'm debating between getting a fuel efficient wagon like the Jetta Sportwagen or a more upscale wagon like the allroad. Or an Acura TSX wagon which is priced in between the two. Some of you may not like the Acura, but compared to my 99 Passat it should still get better acceleration and mileage.

      The 99 Passat runs ok, but uses up oil like crazy.

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      06-07-2012 01:33 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by kondoa View Post
      This might be the wrong thread to ask this, but I was wondering what made you decide to trade in your Jetta Sportwagen TDI for the allroad.

      I have a 99 Passat wagon and I'm debating between getting a fuel efficient wagon like the Jetta Sportwagen or a more upscale wagon like the allroad. Or an Acura TSX wagon which is priced in between the two. Some of you may not like the Acura, but compared to my 99 Passat it should still get better acceleration and mileage.

      The 99 Passat runs ok, but uses up oil like crazy.
      The JSW was perfect for us as a family of three. My wife and I didnt think we were going to be able to have a second child. Then... last August.... wife got pregnant.

      The allroad is 9-inches longer, three inches wider and more seat room in the back. Couple that with Quattro... It is all the benefits of an SUV without a huge hit in the gas mileage department. Plus... the allroad is bad-ass!!!!!!

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      06-07-2012 04:02 PM #41
      Congratulations! I'm in the same boat/car. I also have two kids.

      I agree. The allroad looks sweet! Now I just need to convince myself to spend the money. With options (pre+ & nav), tax, and license it will cost close to $50K.

    17. 06-07-2012 04:40 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by kondoa View Post
      Congratulations! I'm in the same boat/car. I also have two kids.

      I agree. The allroad looks sweet! Now I just need to convince myself to spend the money. With options (pre+ & nav), tax, and license it will cost close to $50K.
      my local dealer just got an allroad in stock and it's in the $50k+ range. The all-road is nice and all, but at $50k, you're playing in E-classe wagon territory, and those are bigger, faster, nicer, and have 3rd row seating.

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      06-07-2012 04:58 PM #43
      Premium Plus --- with MMI+Nav and the Audi Key system is 48K.

      I'm not getting NAV or the Audi key. Mine is just over 43k sticker.

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      06-07-2012 10:09 PM #44
      The main reason I'm interested in the NAV package is for the rear view camera.
      It seems as that is standard on the Mercedes E350 wagon, but checking on Edmunds it looks as if the price is around $55K ("True Market Value") if I select just the standard package and metallic paint job.

      MSRP on an allroad with NAV & matching full paint job is around $48K. Maybe if I wait awhile I can get a price some where between MSRP and invoice ($45K).

    20. 06-08-2012 07:43 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by kondoa View Post
      The main reason I'm interested in the NAV package is for the rear view camera.
      It seems as that is standard on the Mercedes E350 wagon, but checking on Edmunds it looks as if the price is around $55K ("True Market Value") if I select just the standard package and metallic paint job.

      MSRP on an allroad with NAV & matching full paint job is around $48K. Maybe if I wait awhile I can get a price some where between MSRP and invoice ($45K).
      I didn't say it was cheaper, just that it was in the same territory.

      If you wanted cheaper, then look at the Q5, which ironically is also more powerful, since it's the first Audi we'll get with the revised 2.0T, and it looks like we'll be getting the 3.0 TDI for it, too.

      don't get me wrong here, I love the allroad, but I just don't understand how Audi expects to sell any of them when they go undercutting the car with another Audi model right on the same showroom floor.
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      07-19-2012 11:00 PM #46
      Just saw one of these at the dealer. Looks pretty hot. I am in complete agreement with other earlier posts. No third pedal, no business from me. I simply don't understand why I can't order an Audi wagon with a manual transmission.

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      07-20-2012 09:31 AM #47
      I'm bummed about the lack of stick shift as well. I wonder what % of drivers even know how to drive a manual in the US.
      I grew up in the rural south and mt is what everyone first learned on. Now I'm in NE where it seems like only enthusiasts know how to row their own gears. Maybe learning stick helps make enthusiasts??
      In any case, I suppose car makers go with what sells. Still, the ar strikes me more as an enthusiasts ride than grocery getter.

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      07-25-2012 09:27 AM #48
      Manual drivers are a endangered species. The NA allroad market is likely to be very small and out of that 'select' group, the percent that would rock the stick probably not enough to tickle the bean counters at Audi.

      I never wanted an auto until I took a few trips that involved a whole bunch of interstate stop n' go driving... as in many hours of it. Once I spent about three or more hours trying to cross Toronto in a manual Audi. It was back and forth between first and stop. My poor clutch was being worked the entire time. The outcome for me was that I became agnostic.
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      07-28-2012 03:39 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by SoSuMi View Post
      Manual drivers are a endangered species. The NA allroad market is likely to be very small and out of that 'select' group, the percent that would rock the stick probably not enough to tickle the bean counters at Audi.

      I never wanted an auto until I took a few trips that involved a whole bunch of interstate stop n' go driving... as in many hours of it. Once I spent about three or more hours trying to cross Toronto in a manual Audi. It was back and forth between first and stop. My poor clutch was being worked the entire time. The outcome for me was that I became agnostic.
      I'm with you on the pita factor of city driving a stick. I'm in Boston and sometimes the mt wears on me after miles of stop n go traffic.

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      07-29-2012 06:16 PM #50
      My wife and I drove a new allroad yesterday, back to back with a 2.0 Q5. It has some pep to it for sure, APR flash will make it a blast. My have to trade in the Golf soon
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