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    Thread: A very technical build - PART II

    1. Member MechEngg's Avatar
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      02-15-2012 12:55 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by arethirdytwo View Post
      I gotta ask about the three comps though... I know why... but why?
      Well here were the reasons behind getting another:
      - Never heard of anybody with a VW having 3 OB2's so i wanted to be unique
      - I had the extra room in my trunk if i redesigned my frame
      - I had some extra amperage to play with seeing as i had an upgraded alternator already (150A at idle, so say 130 to play with so we don't run full tilt, ~20A for car functions at any one given time, that leaves 110A for compressors. 35A * 3 = 105A so it is just enough). I would need to upgrade my alternator even further to a 250A/190A idle to accomodate another compressor so it just isn't worth it.
      - This way my fill time is virtually non-existent
      - With this proven silencing method the compressors are silent while running so i can run as many as i want without negative side effects
      - The faster the fill time the less it will start to kill my battery actually, this way my alternator can keep up to the filling and it won't start deep cycling my OEM battery, which it would if i was running it for 5 minutes or so
      - Plus it fills up the trunk space nicely

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      02-15-2012 01:17 PM #27
      LOL. I mean I would take three but I have a show car

      Any in car audio? I'd love to hear how quiet these are, I think I may run isolators and move my comps into the interior.

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      02-15-2012 01:46 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by arethirdytwo View Post
      LOL. I mean I would take three but I have a show car

      Any in car audio? I'd love to hear how quiet these are, I think I may run isolators and move my comps into the interior.
      You don't want to have three beautiful compressors showing in a show car??

      I am just putting a simple head unit in to wire up to the monsoon speakers and amp and put in a small 10" directed audio 300W rms sub and amp in a nice sealed box for a bit of crisp bass. Will run off the other fuse I have in the trunk distribution block. The amp fits in the electrical box section of the build

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      02-15-2012 07:56 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by MechEngg View Post
      You don't want to have three beautiful compressors showing in a show car??

      I am just putting a simple head unit in to wire up to the monsoon speakers and amp and put in a small 10" directed audio 300W rms sub and amp in a nice sealed box for a bit of crisp bass. Will run off the other fuse I have in the trunk distribution block. The amp fits in the electrical box section of the build
      I think he was talking about audio clips of the comps running from inside the cabin
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      02-15-2012 08:12 PM #30
      Bingo. All the work on my car and ICE is all factory. Ended up growing out of that phase. I'd just love to hear in-car noise level.

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      02-15-2012 08:50 PM #31
      LOVE LOVE the FUNK button idea, i need this in my life, I hate when the compressor kicks in while waiting for the glow to warm up and then turn off and on when firing the engine

      Let me know how it goes and I'll most likely do the same

      EDIT: that guy is asking for $45 shipped for the FUNK button
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      02-15-2012 10:34 PM #32
      I was going to run the mini funk button with a relay. I am still trying to decide on the fine details of it though. I am gonna have to step my game up though after seeing how you throw down.
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      02-16-2012 12:25 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Twilliams83 View Post
      I think he was talking about audio clips of the comps running from inside the cabin
      Ah gotcha. I must have totally read it wrong.

      Quote Originally Posted by arethirdytwo View Post
      Bingo. All the work on my car and ICE is all factory. Ended up growing out of that phase. I'd just love to hear in-car noise level.
      I don't think that the compressors would be great for inside the cabin, they would be noisy for that. But with the vibration dampening and double layers of airborne sound absorber it is quiet in the cabin with the comps mounted in the spare wheel well.

      Quote Originally Posted by kilimats View Post
      LOVE LOVE the FUNK button idea, i need this in my life, I hate when the compressor kicks in while waiting for the glow to warm up and then turn off and on when firing the engine

      Let me know how it goes and I'll most likely do the same

      EDIT: that guy is asking for $45 shipped for the FUNK button
      Yeah thats what i got from him too.....BUT screw it i am going to do it anyways
      You can actually use any momentary push button with the wiring diagram that i gave you and just wire in an LED for an on or off indicator

      Quote Originally Posted by Niagara_V_Dub View Post
      I was going to run the mini funk button with a relay. I am still trying to decide on the fine details of it though. I am gonna have to step my game up though after seeing how you throw down.
      It's not a competition, it's always nice to have something unique though
      Even if you do the same thing not very many people have done it at all so it will still be really unique especially at local shows

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      02-16-2012 01:20 AM #34
      I must admit when it comes to wiring/electronic' i just almost freeze up and don't even know where to start. Its kinda hard to explain the feeling but its so damn stupid! That funk button idea is great! Can't wait for some more progress

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      02-16-2012 02:04 PM #35
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      02-17-2012 04:13 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by BlackRadon View Post
      I must admit when it comes to wiring/electronic' i just almost freeze up and don't even know where to start. Its kinda hard to explain the feeling but its so damn stupid! That funk button idea is great! Can't wait for some more progress
      Well if you ever have any questions let me know and i would be more than willing to help ya out

      Quote Originally Posted by Will@BagRiders View Post
      Looking good
      Thanks Will, hopefully i get more work on it done soon



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      Not getting the 9.5 Miro's like i originally anticipated, going for something a bit more classy and a bit less showy. And only a select few people know what wheels they are so no spreading the word around

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      02-17-2012 07:40 PM #37
      Figured this is an appropriate picture for the build

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      02-21-2012 12:32 AM #38
      Instead of working on the airride this weekend i did a few "supporting mods" and got rid of the stock radio for a head unit from my old jetta, and old astro van, however it still works. Circa ~1998

      Airride frame is going to get mounted this week, as well as a bit of wiring


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      02-21-2012 08:31 PM #39
      best write up ever! i love to see planning with such organization, it definitely makes me feel inspired to get started on my build. and what do you plan on using to protect the airlines from the harsh canadian winters?
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      02-21-2012 10:16 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by streetuner View Post
      best write up ever! i love to see planning with such organization, it definitely makes me feel inspired to get started on my build. and what do you plan on using to protect the airlines from the harsh canadian winters?
      For winter protection i am going to run the airlines tucked underneath the car to the front right beside the other lines that run in between the frame rails, also run wire loom around the whole thing to add cushion and protection. Similar to what i did in the rears last time


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      02-22-2012 08:44 AM #41
      in for this as i am installing elevel in march.. i remember reading somewhere that you shouldnt use 2 x 4s or hevy duty stuff in a trnk install cus if you do get in an eaccident your whole trunk set up is getting pushed into your rear seat and used something elseo so it woud break easy but i cannot remember.. anyone hear of something liek this happening?
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      02-22-2012 09:40 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by msheehan View Post
      in for this as i am installing elevel in march.. i remember reading somewhere that you shouldnt use 2 x 4s or hevy duty stuff in a trnk install cus if you do get in an eaccident your whole trunk set up is getting pushed into your rear seat and used something elseo so it woud break easy but i cannot remember.. anyone hear of something liek this happening?


      Honestly it's not going to happen. I have heard of this before but i think it is just garbage, the way the seats are designed they are almost bulletproof (i exaggerate of course). What if you just had a 50lb object sitting in the trunk rolling around loose? What would actually do damage, that or a wooden frame that is snugly fitted inside the trunk with an airtank tightly bolted to it

      Again i think that people just say stuff like this to stir up a ruckus, a 2x4 frame that is bolted or snugly fitted in your trunk is not going to do squat compared to a loose object rolling around.

      But thanks for the bump!

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      02-22-2012 09:53 PM #43
      Lookin' pretty good so far. Hope this turns out to b what you really want.
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      02-23-2012 07:33 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by AndrewDaniels View Post
      Lookin' pretty good so far. Hope this turns out to b what you really want.
      Should be

      MINI UPDATE

      Got my water traps on shut off valve. Shut off valve will be extremely handy because with the e-level setup if you relieve pressure from the air manifold the car lowers itself and airs out the bags too. This way i can empty my water traps and drain my 3 gallon tank without having to lose all of my air. This way it is also quicker to get back up to full pressure (not that it will take long anyways)

      I am again running flex airlines directly off of the compressor. IMO the OB2 compressors don't get hot enough to do any damage to the airline, if it happens in the future i will worry about it at that point.

      Everything is almost ready to install, just have to get quick disconnects for the wiring harnesses of the compressors so that they can be easily detached from the relays and its going in

      JIC-FNPT adapter, then MNPT-PTC adapter, all 1/2"


      All 3 compressors tee together and lead into this one water trap on the side of the tank. 1/2"PTC-3/8"MNPT adapter


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      03-02-2012 09:43 PM #45
      Crappy pic but got the frame in and it fits snug as a bug in a rug. Just perfect size for a trunk wheel well, i can see someone running just this under the floor setup and having room towards the back from the 3 gallon tank to do the manifold for a 2" raised floor setup


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      03-02-2012 09:59 PM #46
      Again love the frame compressor mount, very well designed

      great idea on the shut off valve, I've been thinking about doing it, I'll probably use a flow control for that since i will have some spare lying around, thanks again !
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      03-02-2012 10:49 PM #47
      just checked out your old build mainly just scrolling for pics haha looks good but new build looks better. sorry to hear about the old car but new ride must be nice. will be checking this for updates every now and again
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      03-03-2012 12:57 AM #48
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      03-03-2012 10:55 AM #49

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      03-03-2012 02:18 PM #50
      BTW i read somewhere that your compressor was super quiet, barely hear them at idle due to having sound barrier deadening material, could you show the coverage and how/where it's laying ?
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