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    Thread: B5.5 Windows. Getting to One Touch Operation

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      02-12-2012 10:02 PM #1
      I've got two B5.5 wagons. The 2003 GL has one-touch window operation enabled. The 2004 GLS does not, but should. (http://www.edmunds.com/volkswagen/pa...tyle=100377407)

      I found this write-up on Passatworld that describes how to do the coding with a "Brand X" device.

      http://www.passatworld.com/forums/61...se-remote.html

      I haven't found anything on the Ross-Tech site (including the B5 wiki) nor anything via Google that talks about setting up one touch window operation on B5s. I'd love to be able to use my VCDS to solve this problem.

      http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/passatb5.html

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      02-13-2012 07:17 AM #2
      Close the window, hold the switch in the UP position for 5 seconds. Lower the window a couple inches, repeat. Do this 2 or 3 times. That should initialize it.

      Please post an auto-scan so we can see if you've got any faults that may be related.
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      02-13-2012 05:21 PM #3
      Please note: You have two (2) B5 Passats.
      the 2004.5 is considered a B5.5, as it was the re-introduction of the Passat B5 (.5) TDI.

      As Anony stated, excercise the Window switches per his reply.
      Last edited by Tim Birney; 02-13-2012 at 05:26 PM.
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      02-13-2012 07:34 PM #4
      I tried several times but the window reacts the same. One touch doesn't work (yet).

      Will get the scan when I get home, then I'll post it.

      @Tim. The B5 refresh happened in the middle of model year 2001 production. Mine have all the distinguishing characteristics of the B5.5 facelift. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Passat_(B5)

      Thanks for the helpful suggestions.
      Last edited by Outrider6; 02-13-2012 at 11:58 PM.

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      02-14-2012 11:19 AM #5
      VCDS Version: Release 11.11.2
      Data version: 20120126
      Churbuck



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      Chassis Type: 3B - VW Passat B5
      Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 35 36 37 46 47 55 56 57 58 75 76 77


      VIN: WVWVD63B44E290956 Mileage: 135500km/84195miles
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 01: Engine Labels: 06B-906-018-AWM.lbl
      Part No SW: 4B0 906 018 DP HW: 8E0 909 018 A
      Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0002
      Coding: 0016701
      Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
      VCID: 72E1DC5B6EB4003

      7 Faults Found:
      16502 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62)
      P0118 - 002 - Signal too High - Intermittent
      19497 - Powertrain Databus
      P3041 - 004 - Implausible Engine Temp. Message from Inst. Panel - Intermittent
      16727 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)
      P0343 - 001 - Signal too High - Intermittent
      16825 - EVAP Emission Control Sys
      P0441 - 002 - Incorrect Flow - Intermittent
      16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
      P0300 - 008 - - Intermittent
      16688 - Cylinder 4
      P0304 - 008 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
      16687 - Cylinder 3
      P0303 - 008 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
      Readiness: 0000 0000

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      Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4B0-614-517.lbl
      Part No: 4B0 614 517 H
      Component: ABS/ESP allrad 3428
      Coding: 04275
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: 2649F00BC2FC2C3

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
      Part No: 1C0 909 605 C
      Component: 09 AIRBAG VW61 04 0003
      Coding: 12345
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: 244DEA03B4C0DE3

      1 Fault Found:
      00532 - Supply Voltage B+
      07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

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      Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1J0-907-487-A.lbl
      Part No: 1J0 907 487 A
      Component: Lenkradelektronik 0005
      Coding: 00118
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: 2F67152FED066DB

      1 Fault Found:
      01426 - Controls in Steering Wheel (E221)
      41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent

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      Address 17: Instruments Labels: 3B0-920-xx5-17.lbl
      Part No: 3B0 920 929 B
      Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V04
      Coding: 15235
      Shop #: WSC 06527
      VCID: 2649F00BC2FC2C3
      WVWVD63B44E290956 VWZ7Z0D9262893

      1 Fault Found:
      01039 - Coolant Temperature Sensor (G2)
      30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent

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      Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
      Part No: 6N0 909 901
      Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
      Coding: 00006
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: F0E55653B0B8B23

      No fault code found.

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      Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
      Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
      Component: 80 Komfortgerát HLO 0003
      Coding: 00258
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: 37772D4F1556A5B

      Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0202

      Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0202

      Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0202

      Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0202

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 56: Radio Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
      Part No: 3B7 035 180 G
      Component: Radio PM6 0016
      Coding: 04031
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: 244DEA03B4C0DE3

      No fault code found.

      End ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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      02-14-2012 05:11 PM #6
      Your Address 46 is identical to my 3B Diesel, which has one touch windows.
      Your Address 16, not found on my 3B, has faults that could cause an issue... just guessing.

      Your Address 17 is Part Number 3B0 920 929 B, mine is 3B0 920 929 C, coding matches my coding, 15235.
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      02-14-2012 07:44 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Tim Birney View Post
      Your Address 46 is identical to my 3B Diesel, which has one touch windows.
      Your Address 16, not found on my 3B, has faults that could cause an issue... just guessing.

      Your Address 17 is Part Number 3B0 920 929 B, mine is 3B0 920 929 C, coding matches my coding, 15235.
      Thanks, Tim,

      Address 16 seems to be the cruise control & stereo switches on my steering wheel. These seem unlikely to be related to the windows.

      @Ross-Tech... Any thoughts from you? I looked over the Ross-Tech A4 (B5) wiki, which has a bit more info than the Passat Wiki has, but I'm not sure this info ports directly over.

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      02-14-2012 11:14 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European Parts View Post
      Did you try enabling program memory, ref the repair manual, to see if the controller supports the feature?
      Great idea! I own the Bentley manual, but I use VCDS so much that I never thought to check that.

      I do know that one touch was a standard feature for this model.

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      02-15-2012 12:53 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European Parts View Post
      Yup RTFB

      Try force program by establishing the window full travel holding the button going down and also going up.

      Then key cycle and see if the memory settings in the window slave save the data.

      Pretty common to do after a repair of the window regulator.
      I did the full travel exercise (3X up and 3X down, plus hold for 10 sec) before any posts here (based off Audi A4 (B5) info).

      Didn't see any mention of a key cycle. And I don't know how to do one.

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      02-15-2012 02:05 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Outrider6 View Post
      Didn't see any mention of a key cycle. And I don't know how to do one.
      Yes you do. How many times a day to you start and shut off this car?
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      02-16-2012 03:31 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Anony00GT View Post
      Yes you do. How many times a day to you start and shut off this car?
      Feel better now? Good... I'm in awe. How could I be so stupid? Wait...maybe not... Does it matter when you take the key out relative to the window cycling? Should you open a door to deactivate the window switch? There are enough variables that it's worth asking for some expert advice. Thanks for giving it your best shot.

      Bentley manual is of no help at all here. (I have the hardback, two volume edition.) I looked both at the window regulator replacement section (T-64) and at the coding (Z-32) sections. I checked the door trim and window switch instructions. (p. U-72) No joy. (All in Volume II.)

      I do have two position window switches...one touch with a detent that separates that mode from the on demand mode (press & hold).

      Ross-Tech can you add your expertise to this conversation?
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      02-16-2012 06:36 PM #14
      Scan your 2003, and compare Controllers and coding in the Controllers.
      Look at the Part numbers of the Controllers, and make note of any differences. (Particularly the Suffix Letter of the controllers)
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      02-16-2012 08:12 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Tim Birney View Post
      Scan your 2003, and compare Controllers and coding in the Controllers.
      Look at the Part numbers of the Controllers, and make note of any differences. (Particularly the Suffix Letter of the controllers)
      Thanks, Tim. That makes a lot of sense. Let's hope it works.

    16. 02-17-2012 12:20 AM #16
      All those cars to my belief support express windows.

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      02-17-2012 07:32 PM #17
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      VCDS Version: Release 11.11.2
      Data version: 20120126
      Churbuck


      Chassis Type: 3B - VW Passat B5
      Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 35 36 37 46 47 55 56 57 58 75 76 77


      VIN: WVWVD63B93E466236 Mileage: 97270km/60440miles
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 01: Engine Labels: 06B-906-018-AWM.lbl
      Part No SW: 4B0 906 018 DA HW: 8E0 909 018 A
      Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0006
      Coding: 0016501
      Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
      VCID: 63CFA91FA14E99B

      1 Fault Found:
      17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
      P1570 - 008 - - Intermittent
      Readiness: 0000 0000

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4B0-614-517.lbl
      Part No: 4B0 614 517 G
      Component: ABS/ESP front 3428
      Coding: 04275
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: 254BF707BFFA27B

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
      Part No: 1C0 909 605 C
      Component: 09 AIRBAG VW61 04 0003
      Coding: 12345
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: 244DEA03B4C0DE3

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 17: Instruments Labels: 3B0-920-xx5-17.lbl
      Part No: 3B0 920 927 B
      Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V08
      Coding: 07235
      Shop #: WSC 00000
      VCID: 244DEA03B4C0DE3
      WVWVD63B93E466236 VWZ7Z0C7534182

      1 Fault Found:
      01336 - Data Bus for Comfort System
      49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
      Part No: 6N0 909 901
      Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
      Coding: 00006
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: F0E55653B0B8B23

      1 Fault Found:
      01336 - Data Bus for Comfort System
      49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
      Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
      Component: 80 Komfortgerát HLO 0004
      Coding: 00258
      Shop #: WSC 04940
      VCID: 37772D4F1556A5B

      Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0009

      Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0009

      Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0202

      Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0202

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 56: Radio Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
      Part No: 3B7 035 180 E
      Component: Radio NP2 0008
      Coding: 00031
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: 2241EC1BAED4D03

      No fault code found.

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      02-17-2012 07:36 PM #18
      I can't find a way for VCDS to access the 80 Tőrsteuer. It looks like the code FS KLO 0009 from the working car it what needs to be there instead of code FS KLO 0202.

      This is the excerpt from the one-touch enabled CCM on the 2003:

      Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
      Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
      Component: 80 Komfortgerát HLO 0004
      Coding: 00258
      Shop #: WSC 04940
      VCID: 37772D4F1556A5B

      Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0009

      Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0009

      Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0202

      Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0202

      No fault code found.


      And this is from the the one-touch disabled CCM on the 2004:


      Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
      Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
      Component: 80 Komfortgerát HLO 0003
      Coding: 00258
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: 37772D4F1556A5B

      Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0202

      Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0202

      Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0202

      Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0202

      No fault code found.
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      02-17-2012 08:08 PM #19
      In that car, the door control modules are "Slaves" or "Sub-Systems" of the CCM; they are not directly addressable.

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      02-17-2012 09:04 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
      In that car, the door control modules are "Slaves" or "Sub-Systems" of the CCM; they are not directly addressable.

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      Thank you for joining in the discussion.

      Do you think resetting the CCM to defaults would do the trick? The car came from the factory with one-touch as a standard feature.

      Also, others have mentioned putting the door controller into some sort of learning or reset mode. I haven't found any actual instructions on how, exactly, to do this. I assume that's the only way to force a code onto the door controller.

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      02-17-2012 10:06 PM #21
      I really don't know why one-touch isn't working in your 2004. Are you certain you've "synched" the windows properly? That's the only "learning" mode I'm aware of which would be applicable to this issue. Press and hold to run the window down; when it bottoms out, keep holding the switch and count 1-Mississippi, 2-Mississippi then release. Press and hold to run it all the way up; when it reaches the top, keep holding the switch and count 1-Mississippi, 2-Mississippi, then release. Do this twice, for each window in the car. I know you said you did this, but you said you held for 10 seconds, and that might be too long.

      One thing that's slightly puzzling is that the 2003 actually has newer firmware in the CCM than the 2004. Has the 2003's CCM been replaced at some point?

      BTW, the Audi A4 CCMs are quite a bit different than these.

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      02-18-2012 07:02 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
      I really don't know why one-touch isn't working in your 2004. Are you certain you've "synched" the windows properly? That's the only "learning" mode I'm aware of which would be applicable to this issue. Press and hold to run the window down; when it bottoms out, keep holding the switch and count 1-Mississippi, 2-Mississippi then release. Press and hold to run it all the way up; when it reaches the top, keep holding the switch and count 1-Mississippi, 2-Mississippi, then release. Do this twice, for each window in the car. I know you said you did this, but you said you held for 10 seconds, and that might be too long.

      One thing that's slightly puzzling is that the 2003 actually has newer firmware in the CCM than the 2004. Has the 2003's CCM been replaced at some point?

      BTW, the Audi A4 CCMs are quite a bit different than these.

      -Uwe-
      Thanks for the specific instructions on the "synching." I'll follow your instructions precisely and report back. Since you said "each window," I'll assume you mean all four, not just the front two. My previous tests have only been on the front windows, since the one-touch feature isn't installed for the rear windows. (On both cars, the front window switches have off/one-touch/detent/on and the rears are simply off/on.) I don't know if engine off/on makes a difference, but I'll do this engine off for consistency.

      While under previous ownership, the 2003 had a water damage repair with extensive splicing done to the CCM wiring. I'm uncertain as to whether the CCM was replaced, but it's hard to think that the corrosion that claimed the wires would not have affected the CCM. (The water damage came from a clogged drain under the battery tray, with water entering via the cabin air filter housing.) The 2004 has no history of CCM issues.

      Thanks for the info on the A4 (B5) Audi CCMs. I won't spend any more time looking in that direction to solve B5 Passat CCM problems.
      Last edited by Outrider6; 02-18-2012 at 07:15 AM.

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      02-18-2012 10:23 AM #23
      I followed Uwe's instructions one window at a time for all four windows. I turned the ignition off, removed the key, and did not open a door. I reinserted the key, tuned power on, and the window behavior remained as it was before. One touch is still disabled.

      Following this, I also tried both front windows at the same time through two cycles. That didn't work, either.

      I also changed the CCM coding to unlock all the doors at once. The CCM took this change and the feature worked correctly for the new setting. (CCM will accept new codes.)

      I think the logical next step is a rescan followed by a reset of the CCM to factory defaults.

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      02-18-2012 12:04 PM #25
      Thanks, Jack. Appreciate the reminder about the remotes. Nothing like trading one inconvenience for another.

      Oddly enough the 2003 (one touch works) was the one that was flooded.

      The garaged 2004 is working with disabled control setting.

      Off to reset to defaults.

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      02-18-2012 04:53 PM #27
      Good News/Bad News

      Your Coding, 2004, as posted...

      And this is from the the one-touch disabled CCM on the 2004:


      Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
      Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
      Component: 80 Komfortgerát HLO 0003
      Coding: 00258
      Shop #: WSC 05311
      VCID: 37772D4F1556A5B

      Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0202

      Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0202

      Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0202

      Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812
      Component: 80 Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0202

      No fault code found.

      My 04.5 B5 TDI matches every line Except:

      Component: 08 komfortgerat HLO 0003

      and the VCID LINE.
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      02-18-2012 09:41 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European Parts View Post
      10-4

      Have you ever considered swapping modules just to see if it is isolated to the CCM?

      Since you have them.
      Good idea on the swap. Not that I'm paranoid, but I picked up two CCMs soon after I discovered the 2003's soggy history. Think I'll try swapping out the 2004's CCM for one of the spares bought for the 2003.

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      02-19-2012 12:36 AM #29
      The best and fastest way to reset windows is to put key in dr. side door lock , unlock car and hold key in unlock position , All windows will go down, lock car and hold key in lock position , all windows will go up.
      Windows are reset and auto up/down will work.

    30. 02-19-2012 10:55 AM #30
      Agreed, this is also a very good idea to try.

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      02-19-2012 05:41 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European Parts View Post
      Agreed, this is also a very good idea to try.
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      02-19-2012 08:19 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by jetta ,97 View Post
      The best and fastest way to reset windows is to put key in dr. side door lock , unlock car and hold key in unlock position , All windows will go down, lock car and hold key in lock position , all windows will go up.
      Windows are reset and auto up/down will work.
      This was easy to do, but regrettably didn't change anything.

      Still need to try the spare CCMs.

    33. 02-19-2012 09:14 PM #33
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      THIS POST MOVED/VACATED BY JACK TO PROTECT CONTENT FALLING INTO THE GAPING HOLE OF THE VORTEX

      IT SEEMS NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaoySOGlZ_U

      Just email or PM John Acton@VMG as to why I have chosen to do this for a modification answer to these posts.....
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      02-20-2012 11:03 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European Parts View Post
      I'm curious now about the other CCM and the result.
      The wife was sick today and the kids had LAX tryouts(2)/practice(1).

      That means no ripping up the carpet on the duty wagon.

      Thursday or over the weekend...

      Two reasons to stick this out until its fixed (in addition to persistence).

      My daily drive takes me from a short sharp 90 degree right turn into a security check point. One touch means cool and dry.

      The car is a 1.8T manual 4Motion wagon. This car should be fully functional.

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