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      02-15-2012 12:29 AM #1
      Many of us are all too familiar with the fact that cars are money-pits and you don't get back half the money you put into modding, maintenance, insurance, interest (if financed), etc.

      The 1M thread got me thinking, if there are only ~700 of them produced - a low-mileage clean example of one kept in perfect factory condition might INCREASE in value of the years, the same way an E30 M3 would have. What are some newer cars that would apply. Here are some of my picks:

      FORD GT


      Pontiac G8 GXP


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      02-15-2012 12:32 AM #3
      I dare say (and not because I have one)....


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      02-15-2012 12:34 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by helement2003 View Post
      I dare say (and not because I have one)....

      Hmm.. i'll take my investment S2K in CR flavor.


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      02-15-2012 12:39 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by wisky View Post
      The 1M thread got me thinking, if there are only ~700 of them produced - a low-mileage clean example of one kept in perfect factory condition might INCREASE in value of the years, the same way an E30 M3 would have. What are some newer cars that would apply.
      Well... here's the thing. Are we talking about cars that have been depreciating and may bounce back, or cars we don't think will depreciate at all? The 1M is already selling for more than list, so it has straight-up appreciated, but as interest wanes and new flavors-of-the-month debut it will begin to decline.

      Staying with the M Coupe theme, the S54-engined Z3 M Coupe has been appreciating in recent years, and we're starting to see asking prices rise for the Z4 M Coupe (see Enthusiast Auto's site - it's usually a sign an M car is going up in the world when they begin snapping up all the low-mileage examples).

      The Solstice GXP coupe is another good candidate.
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      02-15-2012 12:44 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by epbrown View Post
      Well... here's the thing. Are we talking about cars that have been depreciating and may bounce back, or cars we don't think will depreciate at all? The 1M is already selling for more than list, so it has straight-up appreciated, but as interest wanes and new flavors-of-the-month debut it will begin to decline.

      Staying with the M Coupe theme, the S54-engined Z3 M Coupe has been appreciating in recent years, and we're starting to see asking prices rise for the Z4 M Coupe (see Enthusiast Auto's site - it's usually a sign an M car is going up in the world when they begin snapping up all the low-mileage examples).

      The Solstice GXP coupe is another good candidate.

      For the sake of discussion, both. But my original idea was if you were to hold on to the car for 20 years, keep the mileage low and the car in good running condition - would you have made money after the purchase price, inflation, insurance, etc.

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      02-15-2012 12:55 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by wisky View Post
      For the sake of discussion, both. But my original idea was if you were to hold on to the car for 20 years, keep the mileage low and the car in good running condition - would you have made money after the purchase price, inflation, insurance, etc.
      Then I think the 1-series M Coupe is a good candidate. It will depreciate in the near future, but I can see it bouncing back after a decade or so. I also expect to be annoyed by stupid asking prices from guys that bought one and barely touched the darn thing in 20 years hoping for a payday.
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      02-15-2012 08:34 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by epbrown View Post

      The Solstice GXP coupe is another good candidate.
      There's a 2009 sitting at the local Chevy dealer still brand new, it's an automatic but I still probably would have bought it 2+ years ago if I had the money.


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      I think its really hard to predict....with all the technology packed into modern cars, who is going to have a $1,000 headlamp assembly on hand for a BMW thats been out of production for 25 years+. etc etc.

      I think the Miata will be a solid choice, as it is the modern equivalent of an MG-B, but reliable and still relatively simple.

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      02-15-2012 09:11 AM #10
      I have a feeling we wont be seeing any audis/ vws in this thread

      however, the Rs do hold their value very well compared to the rest of their vehicles

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      02-15-2012 09:12 AM #11
      might i suggest the LOTUS ELISE and EXIGE....and not because i just became the proud owner of one, but do to the low volume of cars here in the states, and the fact that they are no longer importing these. I would say its fair to say they will become collector cars.


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      02-15-2012 10:12 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by 71DubBugBug View Post
      I have a feeling we wont be seeing any audis/ vws in this thread
      Yes we will. Whether that's a realistic post is another question.

      On the other hand, my '66 Beetle cost me $5600.00. (And that wasn't a bad price at all for what I got.) New it was about $1700.00. It has appreciated, but not nearly enough to keep up with inflation.
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      02-15-2012 10:12 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by a1vdubnut View Post
      might i suggest the LOTUS ELISE and EXIGE.... the fact that they are no longer importing these.
      They aren't?

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      02-15-2012 10:12 AM #17
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      these things are already holding their value very well.
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      02-15-2012 10:14 AM #18
      I'm sure my future son will curse me for owning and selling two S2000's much the same as I do to my Dad for owning a 69 Mustang GT, 70 RoadRunner and 69 Camaro.

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      02-15-2012 10:17 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by helement2003 View Post

      Agreed. The S2000 will continue to become harder to find, especially a clean car that hasn't been wrecked, boosted, slammed, painted a stupid color, and had the fenders ruined.

      I also think the price on a clean NSX will continue to rise.

      Not so sure about Miatas. There are a LOT of those cars out there.

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      02-15-2012 10:22 AM #20
      '03 and '04 cobras are still going for mid to high 20,000's. If not increasing in value later down the road they have certainly held there value incredibly well.

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      02-15-2012 11:00 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Brickx3 View Post
      not with the amount produced, unless we're talking about model level

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      02-15-2012 11:04 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by green tea View Post
      not with the amount produced, unless we're talking about model level
      Im only talking about the GP that was pictured, 2,000 made in 06 only.

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      02-15-2012 11:10 AM #23
      [QUOTE=wisky;75919037] Here are some of my picks:

      Pontiac G8 GXP




      The only way this POS would ever increase in value as a collector car would be if you blew up all of them but six or eight of the finest low-mileage, unabused examples. Too common, too crappy, and from a defunct brand.

      The percentage of cars that appreciate over the years has got to be <1% in the real world... a combination of desirability, rarity, low mileage, attractive options, colors, provenance, and documented care (something that has not been altered or hacked up in any detrimental way, which is virtually most everything you can do to alter a OEM vehicle). Buy cars to enjoy them, not to turn a profit...

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      02-15-2012 11:12 AM #24
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      Quote Originally Posted by wisky View Post
      Here are some of my picks:

      Pontiac G8 GXP
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      The only way this POS would ever increase in value as a collector car would be if you blew up all of them but six or eight of the finest low-mileage, unabused examples. Too common, too crappy, and from a defunct brand.

      The percentage of cars that appreciate over the years has got to be <1% in the real world... a combination of desirability, rarity, low mileage, attractive options, colors, provenance, and documented care (something that has not been altered or hacked up in any detrimental way, which is virtually most everything you can do to alter a OEM vehicle). Buy cars to enjoy them, not to turn a profit...


      Retail is still in the mid $30ks for them. I totally disagree with everything you just said except the enjoy them and care not about turning profit.
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      02-15-2012 11:40 AM #26
      [QUOTE=Boogety Boogety;75923969]
      Quote Originally Posted by wisky View Post
      Here are some of my picks:

      Pontiac G8 GXP




      The only way this POS would ever increase in value as a collector car would be if you blew up all of them but six or eight of the finest low-mileage, unabused examples. Too common, too crappy, and from a defunct brand.

      The percentage of cars that appreciate over the years has got to be <1% in the real world... a combination of desirability, rarity, low mileage, attractive options, colors, provenance, and documented care (something that has not been altered or hacked up in any detrimental way, which is virtually most everything you can do to alter a OEM vehicle). Buy cars to enjoy them, not to turn a profit... :facepalm:
      They only made ~ 1800 G8 GXP's - thats less than they made MK IV R32's - over the years many of them are bound to be totaled / ruined in some way.

      I agree with you about driving cars to enjoy them, but with the case of the 1M or even Ford GT - I think you can drive them AND turn a profit!

      That said, I am not in the financial situation to do that, but you can't deny how if you went back in time you wouldn't snatch up all the Challengers, Superbirds, Porsche 356's, etc. Its just fun to think about.

      Heres one more, even though its not 2000+ , these just seem to not depreciate.

      DC2 Integra Type R


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      I'd say this is for sure, since not too many of them were made, and they look pretty good too. Ragtops have a history of appreciating value and the coupe is a rare bird

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      Retail is still in the mid $30ks for them. I totally disagree with everything you just said except the enjoy them and care not about turning profit.
      The reason you disagree is your poor reading comprehension. Note my qualifiers:

      "...increase in value as a collector car would be if you blew up all of them but six or eight of the finest low-mileage, unabused examples. Too common, too crappy, and from a defunct brand."

      The topic is appreciation, right? Collectors don't usually want an older car (which it will be, for it to appreciate) unless it's pretty cherry. Since the G8s are now the Unobtanium Flavor of the Month, people are paying absurd prices for these used cars... The idea being, "they're not making any more of them, I better get it now!" Go price them in 5-10-20 years and see if they stand the test of time as an appreciating investment (especially since boy racers are abusing them and/or altering them from stock, and due to the price, most are their only vehicle, making them daily drivers accumulating mileage). Their GM-assembled, long-term quality is iffy, and Pontiac as a brand no longer exists (which is a determinant in value: Sometimes good [Bugattis, Packards, Cords], sometimes not so good [Studebaker, Oldsmobile, Plymouth]).

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      02-15-2012 12:44 PM #31
      Over 110,000 S2K's made and they're going to appreciate? Call me slightly skeptical.
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      A lot of them are ruined or modified for the track, these cars are classics in my book and are beginning to appreciate already
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      02-15-2012 01:06 PM #34
      SLS, unless they make way too many


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      On the same line as the E36 posted above, I think unmolested E39 M5's will eventually appreciate...although they're still quite plentiful.


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      02-15-2012 01:32 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Boogety Boogety View Post
      The topic is appreciation, right? Collectors don't usually want an older car (which it will be, for it to appreciate) unless it's pretty cherry. Since the G8s are now the Unobtanium Flavor of the Month, people are paying absurd prices for these used cars... The idea being, "they're not making any more of them, I better get it now!" Go price them in 5-10-20 years and see if they stand the test of time as an appreciating investment (especially since boy racers are abusing them and/or altering them from stock, and due to the price, most are their only vehicle, making them daily drivers accumulating mileage). Their GM-assembled, long-term quality is iffy, and Pontiac as a brand no longer exists (which is a determinant in value: Sometimes good [Bugattis, Packards, Cords], sometimes not so good [Studebaker, Oldsmobile, Plymouth]).
      The problem with this is you keep saying G8.

      The G8 GXP will be an asset in the future. Not so much are the lesser models.

      I don't know of many GXP's that have fallen into "boy racer" hands based on what I see on the G8 boards.

      G8 GXP =/= G8 GT or G8 Base

      Like stated before, they only made about 1800 GXP's which had their own engine, available 6spd manual, seats, brakes, body trim, and wheels. I think the value is the limited run in the GXP model. Not as it being a G8 alone.
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