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      02-15-2012 01:01 AM #1
      First off, this absolutely wouldn't be possible without my family and friends. Especially since i never planned to be able to to actually turbo this car. If Andy didn't offer me a deal i absolutely couldn't refuse on the eip stuff i never would have gotten started. People like Jeff at UM and Tom at APTuning both played instrumental roles in this with both advice and products. I did alot of reading for the better part of a year on these forums to plan this custom kit, and ide like to thank anyone who was gracious enough to post build threads and answer my questions.

      Well, the basis for my kit includes:
      Turbonetics 62-1 1.06 t4 hotside with a 70trim cold side
      EIP ram horn manifold
      EIP 3" downpipe converted to an open dump
      Tial MVS 38mm
      A 24.25"x9x2.5 bar and plate intercooler core
      2.5" aluminum intercooler piping
      3" exhaust back to the center of the car split to 2.5" oval to both the passenger and drivers sideskirts
      The intake piping is 4"
      Bosch 550cc injectors
      UNITEDmotorsport tune with launch control
      Fx400 clutch with an oem flywheel (streetwerke setup)

      ..The goal is 450-500whp on 15-17psi.

      This will unfortunately be a drawn out thing, as my deadline really isnt due until May/June

      I started with this mess of parts,


      Then, it progressed to pulling my car into my garage and to begin the teardown (don't mind the incredible amount of stuff Ive accrued in my short life)




      I quickly got to work making that turbo look better, or at least match my wheels Courtesy of Dave at Renewed Finishes



      Once the car was apart i wanted to go head on at the problems others were having with this type of manifold/s trim 4" inlet housing turbos. Mitch got crafty and notched his piping, Andy got mad and beat the hell out of his brake booster. After logically racking my brain for most of the thinking process involved in this car, it came down to 3 options. 1. i could copy Mitch...which seemed the most likely. 2. Run a non reinforced coupler and see it that would allow it to fit. 3. Cut **** until it fit like Andy did. I ended up deciding to try the coupler first...It worked




      After that issue was addressed, we started cutting and mocking up the intercooler.



      Long story short, the brainstorm came about to go against the norm and put the intercooler piping through the core support, this turn into turning the core support into intercooler piping and the monstrosity your about to see was made.




      As a finished product, this is what the front mount looks like



      After we finished that it was time to connect the dots






      Next we got started on the hotside piping, which to be honest with you if it wasnt for Mitch(JDM-JTI) having to figure this out before me, it never would have went as smoothly as it did. We ended up welding a v band onto the turbo to make this work.



      ^-4an to my wastegate.

      After that it was time to address the fact i wanted to do an open wastegate dump on my Tial 38mm MVS. I had to have the downpipe recirc piece welded shut and the dump tube made. Because of the mess of piping behind the motor, this was how we had to route the dump tube.



      ...That is where im at right now. The piping is all done. It will be sent off to have the cold side piping, intake manifold, diverter valve, and core support powdercoated. The hotside piping, downpipe, and exhaust manifolds will be ceramic coated.

      Anddd... the car in question

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      02-15-2012 01:03 AM #2
      In for updates, and to tell you that its gonna probably be May until its fully done .I still need to order a tune, install the clutch/spacer/crackpipe/ possibly do chains(96k) Exhaust will be done after that.
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      02-15-2012 01:09 AM #3
      Nice! Aside for the painted wheels our cars are twins... thinking of painting my superleggeras white actually.

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      02-15-2012 01:11 AM #4



      Looks good.
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      02-15-2012 01:13 AM #5
      Rice Ross, i think the coolest thing is the intercooler mounting setup. Ur deff spending a lot less on this than i am, haha

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      02-15-2012 01:17 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by BOUDAH View Post
      Rice Ross, i think the coolest thing is the intercooler mounting setup. Ur deff spending a lot less on this than i am, haha
      Thats half the fun. This isnt a shop building this car, its me and freinds so its alot cheaper. The welds on the piping were done by a friend who pretty much honed his skills building his lsx turbo nova and hasnt stopped since
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      02-15-2012 10:48 PM #7
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      02-15-2012 11:05 PM #8
      Looks good. Always best to do it yourself that way a problem arises you can fix it quick. Plus doing it yourself and if your are knowledgeable it will be reliable because you will take more car than a shop you are paying
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      02-16-2012 12:10 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by newcreation View Post
      Looks good. Always best to do it yourself that way a problem arises you can fix it quick. Plus doing it yourself and if your are knowledgeable it will be reliable because you will take more car than a shop you are paying
      precisely
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      02-16-2012 12:16 AM #10
      what's the grenade looking thing, ross? (in one of the pictures looks like it's 90 deg coming off intake pipe) on the next it is gone.
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      02-16-2012 12:18 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by benyates View Post
      what's the grenade looking thing, ross? (in one of the pictures looks like it's 90 deg coming off intake pipe) on the next it is gone.
      eurojet diverter valve

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    12. 02-16-2012 12:59 AM #12
      Nice to see my old kit is being moved around some more and still being improved upon.

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      02-16-2012 09:49 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by gabe@bwperformance View Post
      Nice to see my old kit is being moved around some more and still being improved upon.
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      02-17-2012 08:10 PM #15
      The intercooler and dump tube are all done. Picked up a used cm fx400 and pressure plate the other night, going to be sending that off to get rebuilt. Next step is to tear it all apart and send it to powder/ceramic coating and begin to pull the motor/trans for the clutch,headspacer, etc.








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      Quote Originally Posted by gabe@bwperformance View Post
      Nice to see my old kit is being moved around some more and still being improved upon.
      your kits a little hoe

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      02-17-2012 09:49 PM #19
      Nice!

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      02-17-2012 10:01 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by deeeGLI View Post
      Nice!
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      02-18-2012 10:54 PM #21
      I decided to tear down the car to get everything ready for the powdercoater.





      ^where the hotside piping connects to the core support-intercooler



      Everything torn out and ready for the powdercoater
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      02-20-2012 02:40 AM #22
      Looks great man! I bet she is a beast. Just wondering why the intake is behind the battery?
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      02-20-2012 12:21 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by resilientsoma View Post
      Looks great man! I bet she is a beast. Just wondering why the intake is behind the battery?
      Theres really not a better place on my setup to run it. Cold air intakes on turbo cars are stupid. The difference they make vs the harm they can cause isnt worth it. Where its at i can run the factory plastic peice that would pull cold air out of the fender well an into the intake box if i want, the filters placed at the perfect spot for it.
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      02-20-2012 12:39 PM #24
      Looking good ross! Been tracking the progress on FB.

      Random question, have you given any thought into running water/meth? I ask because your intercooler looks a bit smaller compared to other turbo'd R's that I have seen (I am sure you won't have heating issues but I always say rather safe than sorry).

    25. 02-20-2012 12:43 PM #25
      I like this.. a lot.

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      02-20-2012 01:00 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by r32dub88 View Post
      Looking good ross! Been tracking the progress on FB.

      Random question, have you given any thought into running water/meth? I ask because your intercooler looks a bit smaller compared to other turbo'd R's that I have seen (I am sure you won't have heating issues but I always say rather safe than sorry).
      I think the overall core size isnt much different than anyone else, but ido plan to log iat's via vagcom on my car and a few other turbo r's to see where i stand. If need be ill add meth and dial boost back accordingly. Gabe made almost 500awhp on 17psi with meth and no cams i beleive. I have cams, and i wont have a tq loss because im retaining the stock intake manifold. This is a trial by error kind of thing haha... Which sucks
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      02-20-2012 03:16 PM #27
      watching on facebook .. but ill watch on here too

      hurry that ass up!

      just kidding .. take your time and make everything mint .. its better to do it once and do it right then rush through it

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      02-20-2012 04:47 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by JDM-JTI View Post
      watching on facebook .. but ill watch on here too

      hurry that ass up!

      just kidding .. take your time and make everything mint .. its better to do it once and do it right then rush through it
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      02-20-2012 05:44 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Rmeitz167 View Post
      I think the overall core size isnt much different than anyone else, but ido plan to log iat's via vagcom on my car and a few other turbo r's to see where i stand. If need be ill add meth and dial boost back accordingly. Gabe made almost 500awhp on 17psi with meth and no cams i beleive. I have cams, and i wont have a tq loss because im retaining the stock intake manifold. This is a trial by error kind of thing haha... Which sucks
      Aren't IAT's measured pre turbo on our cars?

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      02-20-2012 05:48 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
      Aren't IAT's measured pre turbo on our cars?
      good call if i remember correctly its part of the maff isnt it? In that case, guess i better find an iat sensor and tap it into the manifold.
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      02-20-2012 06:06 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Rmeitz167 View Post
      good call if i remember correctly its part of the maff isnt it? In that case, guess i better find an iat sensor and tap it into the manifold.
      yep on N/A vw's its at the MAF.

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      02-20-2012 06:09 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by huichox4 View Post
      yep on N/A vw's its at the MAF.
      Yeah idk how im gonna measure accuratly. I can use an ir thermometer on the piping, but thats gonna tell me the temp of the pipes haha not the the air accuratly.

      EDIT: http://www.amazon.com/Intake-Tempera.../dp/B006CUCNSY
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      02-20-2012 07:47 PM #33
      Tossing around ideas for my fuel pump. Becuase im running dual side exits, and my solution to running fuel lines over one side of the exhaust is to build a heatshield ide like to run a setup like this : Stock pump and feed line to an ie surge tank with an 044 in it ----> a fuel filter ---> the rail. Then for the Return it would go Rail return ----> to surge tank(ide probably have an fittings welded to it like i believe darkside did) ---> an -AN line back to an adapter in the back of the car. Thus allowing me to run a stainless an return and heat wrap it better. I could also run the same adapter to turn the feed line into a -6an but ide feel doubly ghetto for doing so
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      First couple pipes are done being powdercoated. Still need to do the intake manifold, diverter valve, etc. But you wont see those until the finaly assembly pics. You will like the color choices etc that im doing.
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      02-21-2012 05:40 PM #35

      blasted


      coated

      No final pic yet
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