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      02-15-2012 03:46 PM #1
      Hey everyone! Most of you don't know me. I'm Larry. I've had only mk3 VRs for the last year. Ive been on the tex since '06 but kept changing my username. I've had 12 Mk2s going all the way back to '02. I've even had the opportunity own a '90 Calypso GLI 16v and an 89 Helios GLI 16v. Here are some pics of some of my previous VWs.

      89 Jetta GLI Helios
      Wen I got her


      When I sold her



      95 Jetta VR


      I took the plunge this last weekend and sold my 98 Jetta GLX.

      when i got her


      When I sold her


      I picked this beast up yesterday for $400. It is an '87 Jetta GLI 8v. 135k original miles. I helped my friend buy this car 5 years ago and he has had it ever since. The plan is a G60 + CE2 swap. I have sourced both swaps and am picking them up today. Coilovers will be ordered this week as well as picking up some decent wheels, 2 doors and fender and possibly paint.







      Pics of the g60 swap


      Stay tuned for progress!

      I am unsure whether to keep small bumpers/doors or switch to big bumpers and doors with small trim. If you have pics of low small bumper mk2 jettas that would be sweet!
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      02-15-2012 03:56 PM #2
      Hi Larry,

      It looks like you do a good job at fixing up "rough" VW's and do right by them.

      Congrats on the Mk2 GLI score, it looks pretty decent.

      Personally, I'd stick with the small doors and small bumpers, but it's just personal preference...

      Why go with the G60, was it free? You rarely see the G60 swaps anymore, so it will be cool to see for the unique factor...

      Good luck with it!

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      02-15-2012 03:58 PM #3
      You seem like you have a solid handle on fixing potential buckets. Personally I'd go a different route than G60 but hey I wasn't saying that last year. I had a g60 swap in my mk2 golf loved it until it popped. Now I'm going ABA but hey good luck and if you have questions I might be of some help.
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      few here, few there, big whoop wanna fight about it?
      02-15-2012 04:10 PM #4
      send me a pm if you need parts/help. i've done a few ce2 swaps and aba swaps and pretty familiar with the g60
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      02-15-2012 06:52 PM #5
      Yes! I look forward to a G60 being in this, and seeing it at the SE gtg... good luck!

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      02-15-2012 08:31 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Jettaboy1884 View Post
      Why go with the G60, was it free? You rarely see the G60 swaps anymore, so it will be cool to see for the unique factor...
      Exactly what I was thinking.
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      02-15-2012 10:58 PM #7
      Thanks for the compliments everyone!

      Quote Originally Posted by Jettaboy1884 View Post
      Why go with the G60, was it free? You rarely see the G60 swaps anymore, so it will be cool to see for the unique factor...

      Good luck with it!
      It wasnt free but it was a decent deal and I couldn't swap a vr for what I spent on the g60. I decided on the swap because VR swaps are a dime a dozen and you dont see many g60 swaps (yes i know there are reasons for this lol). I am excited to do the swap. I am giving myself 1 month to get this done. I go in for major dental surgery next week and will have to take at least a week off from working on the car.

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      02-15-2012 11:33 PM #8
      show that G60 some love .

      take your time with the swap dont rush it. the motors are pretty bullet proof and the charger is the weak link in an unknown state. i suggest if your going though all this work,send the charger out for a rebuild.it will pay you back in the long run.

      i think the only reason the charger has a bad rap is because people get cars w/ them or swap unknown condition ones in,then beat the snot out them til the bad happens. then everyone says
      "their POS and blow up all the time".

      ive heard of a stock factory corrado at 300k mi and only having the charger rebuild twice (iirc).
      i think the bentley recommends a rebuild between 50k-75k mi.(iirc).

      mine has about 20k mi on a rebuild and still puts out 10lbs reliably. its all about how they were/are cared for. they need maint just like any other part that has bearings/oil/belts to change.

      G/L w/ the swap
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      02-16-2012 12:29 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by reborndub View Post
      show that G60 some love .

      take your time with the swap dont rush it. the motors are pretty bullet proof and the charger is the weak link in an unknown state. i suggest if your going though all this work,send the charger out for a rebuild.it will pay you back in the long run.

      i think the only reason the charger has a bad rap is because people get cars w/ them or swap unknown condition ones in,then beat the snot out them til the bad happens. then everyone says
      "their POS and blow up all the time".

      ive heard of a stock factory corrado at 300k mi and only having the charger rebuild twice (iirc).
      i think the bentley recommends a rebuild between 50k-75k mi.(iirc).

      mine has about 20k mi on a rebuild and still puts out 10lbs reliably. its all about how they were/are cared for. they need maint just like any other part that has bearings/oil/belts to change.

      G/L w/ the swap
      Yeah ive heard bad things about the chargers too but im not too concerned. if the g60 grenades itself then so be it. I am going to source a rebuild kit and attempt it myself. That is a couple months away though as funds are getting low.

      The swap will be done right. The car is getting a full CE2 swap. Nothing will be half assed. The only "negligible" thing I am doing is swapping the 02A out for a 9A so I can retain my stock pedals, and shift box. I'm hoping that I grenade the 9a before I grenade the G60 lol.

      I spent 5.5 hours driving 275 miles today going to pick up the swap. I picked up the motor, trans, charger, SMIC, ECU, and harness. I am picking up the CE2 swap tomorrow evening and the car is being delivered on Saturday.

      pic of the motor in its corner for now. It will be getting a full gasket kit and timing and serpentine belts


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      02-16-2012 11:07 PM #10
      I picked up everything for the CE2 swap for $80 today. I also got the vr cabrio swap started and running for the first time. its running damned good too!

    11. 02-18-2012 03:32 PM #11
      This interests me. I'm soon swapping my stock boring 8v out for a G60 with a few goodies.

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      02-18-2012 05:26 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Colbskee View Post
      This interests me. I'm soon swapping my stock boring 8v out for a G60 with a few goodies.
      I will try to document as much as I can. I am doing this alone though so it can be tough to snap pics all the time.

      The car was dropped off today. It starts and runs! Although that doesn't matter. lol

      will post pics after a bit of Lake Jetta LOL

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      02-18-2012 05:58 PM #13
      lake jetta lol








      wolfsburg mudflaps?


    14. 02-19-2012 12:45 PM #14
      god i want those mud flaps. do you have a full set?

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      02-19-2012 01:41 PM #15
      i got the same mudflaps. got to love the dealer installed, late 80's upsells.
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      02-19-2012 01:43 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Colbskee View Post
      god i want those mud flaps. do you have a full set?
      I have both fronts. no rears. I don't know whether I will keep them or not. I plan to be pretty low and will likely scrape the crap out of them

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      02-29-2012 03:27 PM #17
      Thought you guys deserved an update.

      I got the car in the garage and the strip down started. I am waiting on some funds to get a clutch kit and gasket kit for the motor before I install it.


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      How she currently sits. Motor is almost out. Still need to disconnect the fuel lines, Axles, exhaust and shift linkage. That will all come today then the interior strip down comes this afternoon/evening.


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      02-29-2012 04:37 PM #18
      watching

      this should be very cool

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      02-29-2012 06:57 PM #19
      The engine and trans are out! Pic to prove it.


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      03-01-2012 08:56 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by db3ck View Post
      watching

      this should be very cool
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      03-01-2012 10:37 AM #21
      You seem to have the same ability at saving clunkers as I do, and I am also currently bringing a recently acquired mk2 back to life... Looking forward to updates I was looking at a g60 swap but I think im just going to toss a small IHI turbo on my 1.8 and run it at 8-10 pounds
      Mk4 shift knob, boot and trim ring into your mk3/mk2 DIY:
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      03-01-2012 12:46 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by jettaracer1989 View Post
      You seem to have the same ability at saving clunkers as I do, and I am also currently bringing a recently acquired mk2 back to life... Looking forward to updates I was looking at a g60 swap but I think im just going to toss a small IHI turbo on my 1.8 and run it at 8-10 pounds
      Thanks bud I love taking cars that people were going to send to the crusher and giving them a new lease on life. This car is going to get alot of $$ invested.

      Current plans/pricing:

      Charger rebuild: $700
      Charger Stage 2: $???
      Axles: $200
      Howitzer Intake for G60: $200
      Complete Gasket kit for PG engine: $200
      Clutch Kit (for 8v 9A trans W/ 16v PP): $125-$200
      Coilovers (CX Racing/JSK?/other dampening adjustable coils): $750-$950
      Full CE2 Electrics swap: $100
      OEM Mk2 Turbo Diesel/g60/rallye Side mount Intercooler setup: $???
      Cross drilled rotors front and rear: $400
      Wheel bearings/tie rods & Ends/ball joints/all bushings: $250

      My goal is to win at least 1 category at Pacific Waterlands in Sept. this year. I will be spending roughly $2500-$3000 just in parts and stuff for this project over the next 6 months. The car will be basically brand new. Anything that I remove from the car will be cleaned, painted and then reinstalled with all new bushings and hardware. All screws/nuts/bolts/ brackets/etc. will be cleaned and painted as well. The bay will be getting deep cleaned and hopefully resprayed. I will not be doing a wire tuck or a shaved bay. OEM + FTMFW!

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      03-01-2012 12:53 PM #23
      Thats awesome, you wouldnt believe my car from day 1 to now, just got it back in january and its already looking and running much better... still quite away to go but im gettin there.
      Mk4 shift knob, boot and trim ring into your mk3/mk2 DIY:
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      03-01-2012 05:09 PM #24
      No progress yet today. I did buy these today. They will be delivered Saturday along with a tornado red fender and a complete hard plastic rain tray that I bought. Its going to be a good weekend.


      Pretty rare 14x6" Oscam Windy Wheels (italian company no longer in business). I believe these came on some 80's volvos.




      I've never seen them on a vw and from the research ive done they are pretty rare. Anyone want to P-shop these onto my car with some tires?

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      03-01-2012 05:21 PM #25
      I saw those wheels on CL last week. Nice pickup. If it were me, I'd refinish the gold in another color.

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      03-01-2012 05:34 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by bigglzworth View Post
      I saw those wheels on CL last week. Nice pickup. If it were me, I'd refinish the gold in another color.
      Picked them up fairly cheap. They will get refinished/polished and painted. I am thinking of painting everything that is gold either tornado red like the car or orange and make them look like the sun.

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      03-01-2012 06:08 PM #27
      I'd keep the wheels gold! Gold wheels almost always look nice on red cars
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      03-02-2012 12:10 AM #28
      No progress was made on the car today. I did go out and pick up some purple power degreaser and some silver and black spray paints for the underhood bits! Everything that gets removed will be deep cleaned and repainted before reinstallation. This includes all the subframe goodies!

      I also ordered a complete gasket set for the G60 engine and a clutch kit w/ lightened flywheel for the 9a trans.

      http://www.mjmautohaus.com/catalog/p...oducts_id=2546

      next up to order is coilovers and every bushing on the car

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      03-02-2012 10:54 AM #29
      nice wheels those are gunna look sick

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      03-02-2012 01:35 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by db3ck View Post
      nice wheels those are gunna look sick
      Thanks! And yes they will! Here is a pic I found of one that has been redone. look OMG amazing! I can't wait.



      I went out this morning and bought:

      g60 Head gasket set $100
      g60 head bolts $10
      g60 timing belt $6.50
      g60 serp belt (without AC) $22
      OEM control arm bushings $12
      Mk2 Ball Joints $23
      Front Wheel Bearings $58
      Rear Wheel Bearings $25
      Rear Wheel Seal $3
      G60 oil Filter (MANN) $4
      Mk2 Fuel Filter $13
      5 cans various spray pants $30
      Large container of Purple Power $6

      Total Spent today $325

      I still need to buy both axles and tie rods/ends and coilovers


      Total spent so far $2225

      Car: $400 (+$200 delivery)
      Engine swap $700
      Travel to get motor $200
      Eurospec Clutch kit $250
      Wheels $150
      Various refresh parts posted above $325

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      03-02-2012 01:45 PM #31
      those rims are sex deff a good find, so are you gunna stick with the gold or color match the car either way i think it would look good

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      03-02-2012 02:13 PM #32
      The plan (currently) is to keep them gold. just redo them like the pic I posted.

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      03-02-2012 07:53 PM #33
      I started cleaning the bay today.

      Before passenger side


      Before Drivers Side




      After Passenger Side



      After Drivers Side


      Before and After



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      03-05-2012 01:17 AM #34
      Here is an update for those of you who care.

      Yesterday I got the dash and dash wiring out. I got the engine and lights harnesses out as well. The subframe has been dropped.

      Today I sold some wheels and got the engine torn down. Pulled the head off to do the head gasket. I could still see the crosshatching on the cylinder walls .

      Tomorrow I need to finish the head gasket job and reassemble the motor. My buddy is coming over to pick up the control arms so he can press in the bushings. On a disappointing note, my wheels ended up being a little rougher than I had anticipated There is a 1" section of the lip that has some pretty deep gouges. The only option is to weld it then sand it flat again. I doubt it would ever look right polished after that . I think the wheels will end up being solid gold Oh well they are still interesting

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      03-05-2012 01:46 AM #35
      Watching this have a tornado red GLI g60 myself.

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