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    Thread: Direct Replacement LED Lamp for Instrument Cluster?

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      03-07-2012 09:10 AM #26
      nice!

      V-Leds is easy to navigate too...

      The Tower Bulbs seem to be the newest technology and are also most expensive, but is that the way to go?

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      03-16-2012 09:12 PM #27
      The LED Conversion begins...

      I'm really happy with the 1156/1157 for the back up and brake lights.Just a bit more intense than the regular bulbs. The red LED is redder than the clear bulb. The cool white LED in the back up light matches the LEDs in my Lightning Bolt License Plate Lights.

      I've got WLED R-120 in the high brake light. They seem OK but I wonder if the WLED xHP or the WLED xLX would have been a better brighter choice.

      The 74WHP cool white LED looks great in the ashtray.
      I cannot get the 74 WHP LED to fit in the HVAC Holder. The body of the bulb is about .5mm larger than the base. It won't go in the tight fitting bulb holder. I'm going to stare at the other instrument panel bulbs and see if any are smaller. Not sure I want to try and modify the socket.
      I ended up modifying the bulb. I took a file to it and about 10 minutes of work later it popped in.
      The light is wonderful. The fan switch speeds are lit up for the first time since I owned the car.
      I think this is how the factory intended the HVAC panel to look.
      Last edited by voxwagen88; 03-16-2012 at 11:24 PM.

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      03-18-2012 09:31 PM #28
      GL trouble shooting tips...
      The Dome Light (behind the white cover) and the Reading Light (in the spinny ball) are on separate circuits.
      For the Reading Light to work the ignition must be "ON".
      It has a separate fuse. 5A in slot 25.

      It is the same type of bulb as the Center Brake Light. 194
      The Dome Light, Luggage Compartment Light and Radio all seem to run through a 5A fuse in slot 4.

      Hope that saves someones puzzler.

      Oh and the bulbs in the Dome/Interior Light and the Luggage Compartment/Hatch measure 43mm in length...
      I'm going to try the 4210-CWHP3.
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      03-19-2012 06:51 AM #29
      Awesome. Thanks for updating with your investigation and for the GL tip! I'm sure it looks great and knowing you won't have to change the bulb...probably ever? is a plus!

      Cheers,
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      04-14-2012 10:41 PM #30
      In the interest of completeness, the glove box uses a 37mm festoon bulb.
      IIRC this was the only bulb that was only available from VW.

      I'm going to try replacing it with a 3710-CWHP3

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      04-20-2012 11:00 PM #31
      The 4210-CWHP3 work in the GL dome light and hatch/trunk/cargo area.
      Not sure about the cool white. But my kid likes them. She says they make it look new.

      The WLED-WHP is a great improvement in the map/reading light.
      Light now gets as far as the passenger seat!
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      04-22-2012 05:25 PM #32
      Test fitting the bulbs into a spare cluster.
      It seems the B8.3D bulb is the correct replacement but some modification was needed.
      I had to file away some of the material near the "bulb" end to get the LED into the hole in cluster.

      I guess it is a sort-of-direct replacement.

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      04-24-2012 02:50 AM #33
      I think we need some pictures Regan.

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      05-06-2012 12:46 AM #34

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      05-13-2012 09:29 PM #35
      The 3710-CWHP3 works in the glove box.
      I swapped the WLED R-120 for WLED RHP.
      Much brighter and more in keeping with the brighter back end lighting.

      Here's an attempt at some pics...



      though the images don't really do it all justice.
      The Reds are Red... not bleeding orange...
      Maybe if the camera wasn't 10 years old...

      I can see a lot more behind me when the back up lights come on.

      The CF13GL-02 is the correct blinker. And it works with regular bulbs.
      Hope to get the 1156/1157 amber turn signals next month.
      Maintenance ate the play money this month.

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      05-13-2012 10:18 PM #36
      I have a stupid question(s) about the dash bulbs. Let me preface this by saying that I've never even removed a dash cluster from a fox/replaced any of the bulbs: is changing the color of the light as simple as changing the color of the bulb? If so, has anyone tried the amber or red dash bulbs? My 88 Fox has a 90s Blaupunkt tape deck with amber-ish display and my 93 Fox has an aftermarket tach with red display so I might change the other dash lights over accordingly to match, hence my question. Thanks for any help!

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      05-13-2012 11:03 PM #37
      There is a thin plastic diffuse strip that is green - you'd have to take that out if you don't want a puke colored dash. It requires you to take a section off the cluster that isn't meant to come apart. It's plastic bonded. But, with a sharp blade or some other thin tool - you can brake them. I tried on a spare cluster first to get used to it - but it wasn't so hard once I figured out where to pry.
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      05-13-2012 11:06 PM #38
      Oh - and then just krazy glue that section back on. I put a clear diffuse in - but if/when I ever pull it again I'm just going to remove it. I was afraid the LEDs would be too bright or distracting. But - it could be brighter. I used the bulbs in my original post on this thread. No need to mod them at all.
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      08-21-2012 12:04 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by voxwagen88 View Post
      In the interest of completeness, the glove box uses a 37mm festoon bulb.
      IIRC this was the only bulb that was only available from VW.

      I'm going to try replacing it with a 3710-CWHP3
      The HP High Power bulb is over kill in the glove box.
      Though I can now see things at the bottom of the glove box, quite a bit of squinting is involved.

    15. 12-07-2014 02:00 AM #40
      Heres another option, and it comes with enough led lighting to do:
      your floor lighting,
      engine bay lighting,
      interior roof lighting,
      trunk lighting,
      and tokyo drift under glow lighting (for.. when its dark and your working under your car?) :p

      all in a single remote controlled 12v system or add another module and remote for separate sections
      Its really cool stuff we built a bar and used this stuff, very cheap very easy to work with.


      http://www.amazon.com/eTopxizu-Water...12v+RGB+remote
      Last edited by whatdoesthefoxsay; 12-07-2014 at 02:08 AM.

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