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    Thread: considering going to .658 5th gear: how much mpg will I gain and how much accel will I lose?

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      02-24-2012 12:44 PM #36
      Lol if you don't believe that my vnt15-hotsided setup didn't make 153 hp, then you *certainly* won't believe me when I sai installing pp764's is now causing my clutch rated to 330ft-lbs to slip

      I still don't get how a taller 5th gear has anything to do with burning my motor up?

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      02-24-2012 01:06 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by 85_305 View Post
      Lol if you don't believe that my vnt15-hotsided setup didn't make 153 hp, then you *certainly* won't believe me when I sai installing pp764's is now causing my clutch rated to 330ft-lbs to slip

      I still don't get how a taller 5th gear has anything to do with burning my motor up?
      Any tdi over 110 HP should have a Pyro. Its common sense. Why even flirt with disaster. I don't think your an idiot or a liar. I just think everyone here wants to see you have success with your car and help you not burn it down.

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      02-24-2012 02:06 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by crozier1 View Post
      Any tdi over 110 HP should have a Pyro. Its common sense. Why even flirt with disaster. I don't think your an idiot or a liar. I just think everyone here wants to see you have success with your car and help you not burn it down.

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      you hit the nail on the head dude.. we DO want him to succeed.. not burn his S#!T down..

      but, he always took everything offensively, and then we got tired of his nonsense..

      he is too stubborn to take advice.. idk how many times i had to tell him a PYRO was a REQUIREMENT on a diesel, before it actually sunk in..

      and he was sure he was over-fueled, but had no pyrometer to confirm/deny that.. when in reality, he didnt have enough fuel, and the car almost never smoked..

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      02-24-2012 02:15 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by crozier1 View Post
      Any tdi over 110 HP should have a Pyro. Its common sense. Why even flirt with disaster. I don't think your an idiot or a liar. I just think everyone here wants to see you have success with your car and help you not burn it down.

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      Pyro is common sense on any diesel PERIOD as a safety net.. I understand that. And I am running pyro. Just didn't see how it was relevant to me installing a different 5th gear, but now I see where you guys were going with this and just checking up on me. So sorry I took it with offense.

      Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post

      and he was sure he was over-fueled, but had no pyrometer to confirm/deny that.. when in reality, he didnt have enough fuel, and the car almost never smoked..
      Shuttttt upppppp. Your spot-on, as always

    5. 02-26-2012 09:28 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by 85_305 View Post
      Lol if you don't believe that my vnt15-hotsided setup didn't make 153 hp, then you *certainly* won't believe me when I sai installing pp764's is now causing my clutch rated to 330ft-lbs to slip

      I still don't get how a taller 5th gear has anything to do with burning my motor up?
      The taller fifth won't burn your engine *motor is electric* up. My point to the posts I have been posting is this: IF YOU DON'T LISTEN TO WHAT WE HAVE SAID ABOUT PROPER ENGINE MONITORING THEN WHY WOULD I WASTE MY TYPING ON GIVING YOU INFO ABOUT A 5TH GEAR SWAP.

      Something as important as EGT guage should not fall on deaf ears, so if you didn't have that done I refuse to help you do other stuff while your car could be killing itself.

      Sorry to say this but you are either too stubborn to listen to us Or more likely too dumb to put this together as you still ask some dumb questions that have already been answered.

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      02-26-2012 07:06 PM #41
      en·gineNoun
      1. A machine with moving parts that converts power into motion.

      mo·tor
      Noun:A machine, esp. one powered by electricity or internal combustion, that supplies motive power for a vehicle or for some other device with moving parts.



      Looks like the same thing to me
      But thanks for looking out for me.

    7. 02-26-2012 11:21 PM #42
      You are ignored now. You sir a a retard.


      Edit: Sorry for those of you whom are retarded, I don't mean to offend you thinking you are down to this guys level.
      Last edited by theman53; 02-26-2012 at 11:31 PM.

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      02-27-2012 10:26 AM #43
      love this thread.. lmfao.

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      02-27-2012 10:34 AM #44
      Who's the retard, the one going on about needing an egt gauge and speaking of definitions that he's unsure of, or the one that's asking about installing a different gear and actually using definitions correctly?

      I get your point, and I've got a gauge. So chill out. Mon'.

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      02-27-2012 10:38 AM #45
      Get your car on a dyno and post up the slips. I wouldn't go by your '330ftlb' clutch slipping as a measurement of power, lol.

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      02-27-2012 12:17 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
      love this thread.. lmfao.
      Thanks for the entertainment! This is why I love the Vortex! Childish pissing contests! Too cheap for VCDS but wants to do a 5th gear swap?!?
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      02-27-2012 02:01 PM #47
      Lulz I love psychology; although at times, I hate it. Sorry, but I'm not posting dyno pics to appease *anybody* I realize that there are a lot of people who strongly dislike me, and there's just as many people who've dropped big moiney on big turbos and crazy (pointless) mods who are at similair power levels (often times, even less..), so that makes me a bit of a target. Alas, its a shame that some people are better at building cars than others. Everybody on tdiclub thinks inside the same box, and its humorous watching people get their undergarments into tightly woven piles when somebody who actually uses their brain and figures out more efficient ways of accomplishing things.

      And I had no idea a 5th gear was 400+$... I was thinking 100-150$ tops.

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      02-27-2012 02:12 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by 85_305 View Post
      Lulz I love psychology; although at times, I hate it. Sorry, but I'm not posting dyno pics to appease *anybody* I realize that there are a lot of people who strongly dislike me, and there's just as many people who've dropped big moiney on big turbos and crazy (pointless) mods who are at similair power levels (often times, even less..), so that makes me a bit of a target. Alas, its a shame that some people are better at building cars than others. Everybody on tdiclub thinks inside the same box, and its humorous watching people get their undergarments into tightly woven piles when somebody who actually uses their brain and figures out more efficient ways of accomplishing things.

      And I had no idea a 5th gear was 400+$... I was thinking 100-150$ tops.
      were not talking about 020 trannies here dude..

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      02-27-2012 02:43 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by 85_305 View Post
      Lulz I love psychology; although at times, I hate it. Sorry, but I'm not posting dyno pics to appease *anybody* I realize that there are a lot of people who strongly dislike me, and there's just as many people who've dropped big moiney on big turbos and crazy (pointless) mods who are at similair power levels (often times, even less..), so that makes me a bit of a target. Alas, its a shame that some people are better at building cars than others. Everybody on tdiclub thinks inside the same box, and its humorous watching people get their undergarments into tightly woven piles when somebody who actually uses their brain and figures out more efficient ways of accomplishing things.

      And I had no idea a 5th gear was 400+$... I was thinking 100-150$ tops.

      Anyone who has put in a lot of time, money, and parts into their car aren't afraid to post up a dyno slip though...
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      02-27-2012 03:05 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by Glegor View Post
      were not talking about 020 trannies here dude..
      I'm not a tranny expert.. Although I kinda wish I HAD an 020 because they can get an 80% kit

      Quote Originally Posted by Rockerchick View Post
      Anyone who has put in a lot of time, money, and parts into their car aren't afraid to post up a dyno slip though...
      Well they shouldn't have banned me before I could post my sheet

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      02-27-2012 03:23 PM #51
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      Quote Originally Posted by TM87 View Post
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      02-27-2012 03:43 PM #52
      put your money where your mouth is and post a god damned dyno sheet..

      you know the old saying, pics or it never happened..

      if it were ME, and i were ACTUALLY making 153whp on a stock-ish TDI with a mild tune and small injectors, i would flaunt that S#!T!!!

      hell, i would have my dyno sheet made into decals so i could put them right on my car!

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      02-27-2012 05:10 PM #53
      keep the stupidity flowing I need more amusement!
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      02-27-2012 05:47 PM #54
      Lol @ dyno-sheet car-stickers

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      02-27-2012 09:41 PM #56
      You should cross the border and come up to one of the local Ontario TDIClub dyno days..

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      02-27-2012 09:46 PM #57
      Hell ya I'd be down with that man

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      02-27-2012 10:27 PM #58
      I'll let you know when the next one comes up! Should be in the spring (They usually are)

      Hopefully I'll have all the mods from my 99.5 swapped over to my BEW wagon.

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      02-28-2012 09:49 AM #59
      Sounds like a date. Who typically attends? What kind of dyno is used?

    25. 02-28-2012 09:59 AM #60
      Figured I would show up one more time. I like not being able to see him, but to prove my point I will not type a definition I will link to something I don't have control.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_motor

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine

      noted that the 2 terms are interchanged. Still doesn't make it accurate.

      He probably found that definition in one of is network engineering books that he had to read through the crayon to see it.

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      02-28-2012 02:35 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by 85_305 View Post
      Sounds like a date. Who typically attends? What kind of dyno is used?
      All depends on which shop is used.

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      02-28-2012 03:49 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by theman53 View Post
      Figured I would show up one more time. I like not being able to see him, but to prove my point I will not type a definition I will link to something I don't have control.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_motor

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine

      noted that the 2 terms are interchanged. Still doesn't make it accurate.

      He probably found that definition in one of is network engineering books that he had to read through the crayon to see it.
      hahahaha this guy cracks me up. So now a Wiki entry is more credible than Merriam Webster and the Oxford Dictionary? Gotta love teh intrawebz

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      02-28-2012 04:53 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by 85_305 View Post
      hahahaha this guy cracks me up. So now a Wiki entry is more credible than Merriam Webster and the Oxford Dictionary? Gotta love teh intrawebz
      That's nice and all...


      ...but I'd also really like to see a dyno slip.
      Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. A normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow.

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      02-28-2012 05:30 PM #64
      ... And people in hell want ice water and 85_305 wants his account back on tdi-club

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      02-28-2012 06:24 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by 85_305 View Post
      ... And people in hell want ice water and 85_305 wants his account back on tdi-club
      You're the one making your power claims. No need to get defensive - just post it up!

      Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. A normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow.

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      02-29-2012 02:26 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by 85_305 View Post
      ... And people in hell want ice water and 85_305 wants his account back on tdi-club
      NO wonder you don't post there anymore!
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      Quote Originally Posted by FaithInMkIII2.0 View Post
      NO wonder you don't post there anymore!
      haha yep. Oh well, my blood pressure has gone down significantly since then

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      03-04-2012 08:01 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by 85_305 View Post
      The reason I ask about acceleration is because right now I can scoot along pretty good in 5th gear, and the end of 4th gear leads into the beginning of 5th gear nicely, which makes for some fun highway pulls. If I were to swap out the 5th gear, I feel as though I may not have the highway pulls anymore and the gap between 4th and 5th would be significant...
      Why risk the fun you're having for unknown MPG gains and unknown acceleration losses?

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      03-04-2012 12:05 PM #69
      Damn good way of putting it

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