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    View Poll Results: Should VW bring the Passat Alltrack to North America?

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    Thread: Should VW bring the Passat Alltrack to North America?

    1. Member vrsexxy_GTI's Avatar
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      02-21-2012 04:36 PM #1
      Many customers looking at the Passat and sportwagen are demanding an all wheel drive option, and it seems like the Subaru Outbacks are selling like hot cakes, so i say why not?




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      02-21-2012 04:55 PM #2
      I vote yes. But I wont buy one.

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      02-21-2012 05:00 PM #3
      We are tainted by the Allroad. hopefully this isn't the same thing with a different badge.
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    4. 02-21-2012 05:02 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by vrsexxy_GTI View Post
      Many customers looking at the Passat and sportwagen are demanding an all wheel drive option,
      And it's obviously hurting sales so much...

      and it seems like the Subaru Outbacks are selling like hot cakes, so i say why not?
      Reality. It's a b*tch. No Subaru is on the list of top selling car models in the US. VW wishes for the Passat to be there, so why imitate that which isn't?

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      02-21-2012 05:33 PM #5
      I say yes, and if I had the money I would buy one.

    6. 02-21-2012 05:36 PM #6
      No. Who's going to buy one at a premium cost point?

    7. 02-21-2012 05:48 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by joe97 View Post
      No. Who's going to buy one at a premium cost point?
      Actually, I would. I already own a Touareg, which some would fault using the same rationale (who would buy a premium SUV with a VW badge?) But the thing is, I would prefer a nice wagon. Options are rather limited...

      I posted in another thread on this today (upping my whopping post count to somewhere north of 10!). I also have a Volvo XC70, which is nice but is getting long in the tooth. It's my second one, and I would consider another. I really dislike the Subaru Outback, which is possibly the only other realistic option.

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      02-21-2012 05:57 PM #8
      Define "many customers."

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      02-21-2012 05:58 PM #9
      There's a difference between whether I think something is cool and whether it would make sense for a company to bring something like this over. VW wouldn't be able to win with this car. First off, the cost alone for making this car would make it outrageously expensive. How much was the B6 AWD? What, like ~$40k? It would probably be close to the same if it had a diesel. And if it had a diesel, it would be horribly underpowered and about as quick as a Jetta S because it would come with the 140 hp TDI. If they wanted to put a different engine in it, VW would have to go through the whole expense and mess of certifying the motor for the US. And being assembled in Europe would simply ensure that the car remained stupid expensive. If they want to assemble the car in the US, it would likely require a complete retooling of the current passat plant, as IIRC, the USDM and Euro B7 passat are in different platforms.

      It would be a mess for VW and it would cost more than anyone would want to spend. Who would buy the Passat when they could get the Volvo version instead? Ok 3 people in this forum would choose the VW. And at least one of them would only do it if it was available with a manual, which it likely wouldn't. Terrible idea.

      We once again have another iteration on that all too familiar theme of why VW doesn't bring cars like the Polo (and now the Passat Allroad) to the US.

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      02-21-2012 06:10 PM #10
      If VW would build a CUV version of the US Passat powered by the 2.0 TDI they currently sell here and with similar or better options for under $40K they'd have a hit. Three rows of seats would be good for extra credit. Don't forget how powerful the TDI is under 30 MPH during the test drive before you call it slow.

      A smaller Passat Alltrack from Europe, with features cut to fit under $40K and an expensive, unique engine would be a miss.

    11. 02-21-2012 06:14 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Blonde Guy View Post
      If VW would build a CUV version of the US Passat .
      Something along those lines is already in the works...

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      02-21-2012 06:21 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by wisky View Post
      I vote yes. But I wont buy one.
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      02-21-2012 06:29 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by joe97 View Post
      No. Who's going to buy one at a premium cost point?
      I would also buy one of these. I have an allroad that is now 10yrs old so (like I said in the other thread) I would love a do all things wagon that's not an Outback.

      Will they bring it here? Not as you see it. They would have to adapt the US Passat in order for it to be cost effective. I don't really see them doing that unless there is a Passat wagon on the horizon. I might have to just "settle" for the Audi A4 allroad in a couple years.

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      02-21-2012 06:46 PM #14
      I would buy one with a 6-speed manual gearbox and a 3.0 V6 TDI. That would be a proper f**ken car.

      Do I think it would do well? Unfortunately, no, not really. People like cheap inexpensive boring cars. This is too exciting. Too much to handle for the typical beige camry owner.
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      02-21-2012 06:54 PM #15
      If they do bring it here it won't have:

      -a TDI engine
      -no 6-speed manual
      -no AWD(what?)
      -No HIDs/LEDs

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    17. 02-21-2012 07:01 PM #17
      Since the Outback sells well in the US they should sell them. I think though they need to price it competitively because if it is to expensive no one will buy them. If they matched the price of an Outback they would do well.

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      02-21-2012 07:04 PM #18
      No. Not sporty enough, it would have to be priced around close to better new/used cars I'd rather have, and it still has a 100% standard Passat interior minus the Alltrack badge stuck on the ashtray cover.

      Talk to me when the A4 Allroad with proper packaging/color options comes.

    19. 02-21-2012 07:21 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by 50fridge View Post
      Since the Outback sells well in the US they should sell them. I think though they need to price it competitively because if it is to expensive no one will buy them. If they matched the price of an Outback they would do well.
      No offense, but ??? Imitate a brand w/fewer sales to justify new plant/expansion? Okaaaay

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      02-21-2012 08:21 PM #20
      I am all for there being all kinds of cool cars sold here, but I don't think it makes business sense.

      I don't think there's available market share and I don't think they could price it competitively.

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      02-21-2012 08:31 PM #21
      strongly consider one is most chosen option??

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      02-21-2012 08:32 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by 2VWatatime View Post
      Something along those lines is already in the works...
      Is this the Q3 sized vehicle thing?

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      02-21-2012 08:53 PM #23
      Would be seriously interested. The Outback is too ugly/tall/unrefined/etc, and can hit $35k with options. The XC70 runs $35-$40k real selling prices, and while beautifully equipped, has gotten too heavy and has terrible fuel economy.

      Make this available with the 2.0 TSI or the TDI and DSG. Price it at about $35k and these will sell. Not in huge numbers, but they will gain buyers who will otherwise be unlikely to buy a VW. The Jetta Sportswagen runs about $29k fully optioned, and a Passat sedan ~$29-31k well optioned, so this should be feasible.
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      02-21-2012 08:54 PM #24
      Wasn't the old German Passat wagon pushing 35k without AWD?

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      02-21-2012 08:55 PM #25
      They are late in the game again with this one.

      Many years back, I was dearly looking to replace my Quantum Syncro wagon with something similar, and was trying to stay with VW.

      NOTHING in the US from VW was avail, even though they are AWD models overseas.

      I transitioned over to Audis...eventually even their cars left me cold.
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