Many customers looking at the Passat and sportwagen are demanding an all wheel drive option, and it seems like the Subaru Outbacks are selling like hot cakes, so i say why not?
I would strongly consider one
Yes, they will do well
No, keep it in Europe
Reality. It's a b*tch. No Subaru is on the list of top selling car models in the US. VW wishes for the Passat to be there, so why imitate that which isn't?and it seems like the Subaru Outbacks are selling like hot cakes, so i say why not?
I posted in another thread on this today (upping my whopping post count to somewhere north of 10!). I also have a Volvo XC70, which is nice but is getting long in the tooth. It's my second one, and I would consider another. I really dislike the Subaru Outback, which is possibly the only other realistic option.
There's a difference between whether I think something is cool and whether it would make sense for a company to bring something like this over. VW wouldn't be able to win with this car. First off, the cost alone for making this car would make it outrageously expensive. How much was the B6 AWD? What, like ~$40k? It would probably be close to the same if it had a diesel. And if it had a diesel, it would be horribly underpowered and about as quick as a Jetta S because it would come with the 140 hp TDI. If they wanted to put a different engine in it, VW would have to go through the whole expense and mess of certifying the motor for the US. And being assembled in Europe would simply ensure that the car remained stupid expensive. If they want to assemble the car in the US, it would likely require a complete retooling of the current passat plant, as IIRC, the USDM and Euro B7 passat are in different platforms.
It would be a mess for VW and it would cost more than anyone would want to spend. Who would buy the Passat when they could get the Volvo version instead? Ok 3 people in this forum would choose the VW. And at least one of them would only do it if it was available with a manual, which it likely wouldn't. Terrible idea.
We once again have another iteration on that all too familiar theme of why VW doesn't bring cars like the Polo (and now the Passat Allroad) to the US.
If VW would build a CUV version of the US Passat powered by the 2.0 TDI they currently sell here and with similar or better options for under $40K they'd have a hit. Three rows of seats would be good for extra credit. Don't forget how powerful the TDI is under 30 MPH during the test drive before you call it slow.
A smaller Passat Alltrack from Europe, with features cut to fit under $40K and an expensive, unique engine would be a miss.
Will they bring it here? Not as you see it. They would have to adapt the US Passat in order for it to be cost effective. I don't really see them doing that unless there is a Passat wagon on the horizon. I might have to just "settle" for the Audi A4 allroad in a couple years.
I would buy one with a 6-speed manual gearbox and a 3.0 V6 TDI. That would be a proper f**ken car.
Do I think it would do well? Unfortunately, no, not really. People like cheap inexpensive boring cars. This is too exciting. Too much to handle for the typical beige camry owner.
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No. Not sporty enough, it would have to be priced around close to better new/used cars I'd rather have, and it still has a 100% standard Passat interior minus the Alltrack badge stuck on the ashtray cover.
Talk to me when the A4 Allroad with proper packaging/color options comes.
Would be seriously interested. The Outback is too ugly/tall/unrefined/etc, and can hit $35k with options. The XC70 runs $35-$40k real selling prices, and while beautifully equipped, has gotten too heavy and has terrible fuel economy.
Make this available with the 2.0 TSI or the TDI and DSG. Price it at about $35k and these will sell. Not in huge numbers, but they will gain buyers who will otherwise be unlikely to buy a VW. The Jetta Sportswagen runs about $29k fully optioned, and a Passat sedan ~$29-31k well optioned, so this should be feasible.
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Wasn't the old German Passat wagon pushing 35k without AWD?
They are late in the game again with this one.
Many years back, I was dearly looking to replace my Quantum Syncro wagon with something similar, and was trying to stay with VW.
NOTHING in the US from VW was avail, even though they are AWD models overseas.
I transitioned over to Audis...eventually even their cars left me cold.
Last edited by Sepp; 02-21-2012 at 09:07 PM.
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