Personally I would go with the 20th.
So I'm looking at purchasing my first ever VW. Actually I drove my dad's '87 Jetta when I first got my license but that was years ago.
Anyways, I'm set on a GTI and was set on purchasing this VR6 until I recently came across a 20th Anniversary Edition around my neighborhood. Here's some details about both.
2003 VW GTI 24V VR6 - Has around 70,000 miles, three owners, and looked clean when I saw it in person. Dark Gray. Cloth interior. Only upgrade is an intake (and I'd prefer to as stock as possbiel). Clean Carfax. The kid wants $9,000.00 for it, but he said he'd go to $8,700.00. He hasn't had the water pump, timing chain, or clutch replaced and I know I'll have to get to that at some point soon.
2003 20th Anniversary Edition VW GTI - Has roughly 94,000 miles on it. Hadn't had a chance to check the Carfax yet, but he said it's clean. Jazz Blue. Some nice 18'' wheels. Other than that, no upgrades. Said he recently had timing belt and water pump were replaced around 75,000 miles and has those records. Wants $7,750.00 for it and is firm on that price.
So I'm stuck...First of all, I don't know a lot about VW's. Heard the VR6 was the better engine, but I'm worried with the timing chain or water pump not being replaced. On the other hand, the 20th Edition has both done and still a decent amount of miles. So if ANYONE could help me out I'd greatly appreciate it.
well you have a choice between a great car and a great car. if you do not plan on doing any engine mods to the car i would get the 24v vr6. its a great engine. my dad has the gli with the 24v vr6 in it and all he has had to fix on it was a fuel pump at 140,000 miles. if you want to do mod the car get the 1.8t. Way less expensive than the vr6 to mod and you get more bang for your buck with what you do buy.
Thanks guys, appreciate all the help. Should I be worried that the VR6 hasn't had the timing chain or water pump done? I was leaning toward the 20th because of that reason (as he said he has records of those two, and the clutch was recently done), but I saw the VR6 in person and was clean...Trying to make a move quick after looking for a month and narrowing my choices down.
20th. Though I may be a bit biased
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Based on experience, I'd be more worried about the alternator and possibly the clutch.
And like others said, if you aren't planning on going hog-wild w/ power mods, the VR is probably the better "all-around" motor.
Thanks guys. Probably wouldn't be doing a ton of modifications right away at least. So maybe I'll go with the VR6. Waiting to hear back on the guy selling his 20th so I can take a look, and hopefully something jumps out that swings my mind one way or the other...
Good luck with either purchase tho! Great cars
this is a tough one...the key is the timing belt/water pump/tensioner, thermostat and everything
you'll have to factor in the cost somewhere
As a general guess, when would I be looking to replace the water pump/timing chain and how much am I looking at dishing out.
The kid already has it listed above KBB (although in great condition), and I'm trying to talk him down due to the fact I will probably have to get it done in the forseeable future.
What you will see is coilpacks going, or the MAF sensor, and/or Ox sensors, but I think those problems can plague either motor.
My wife had an '01 12v VR years ago that did need to have the alternator replaced somewhere in the 70k range. And I guess that's due to them be underpowered for all the bells and whistles (plus she had a nice system in the car). That ran about $600 to replace, I believe.
Go with the 20th. If you keep it OEM, it will hold its value a lot better. Much nicer interior and seats also.
My GF's 20th is in the 50k mileage range and in perfect condition. People have offered much more than KBB value for the car.
Well...I haven't heard back anything about the AE. Took a look at the R, and made sure everything checked out regarding the timing chain and water pump. Drove and shifted like new. Couldn't complain about anything except the plastic hood latch being stripped and falling off when I went to pop the hood.
Anyways, looks like I'm going to grab it at the beginning of the week when I have some free time. I'm trying to upload some pics from my computer but can't seem to figure it out on here. And I'm usually decent with computers...
Your pics have to be hosted by a site such as photobucket or whatever the other ones are. Load them on there and then copy the link that has [img] before and after it. then paste it to your post. This took me for ever to figure out! your welcome.
Originally Posted by heimbachae