Need help piecing together a BT setup

[Big_Tom]

What's going on here...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GARRETT-T3-T...item4162e8e0b5

thats my turbo! buy that thing thats a steal if ur looking for 50

[travis_gli]

thats my turbo! buy that thing thats a steal if ur looking for 50

As in your selling it or you have the same one on your car... I'm in the market for a 50 trim

[Big_Tom]

As in your selling it or you have the same one on your car... I'm in the market for a 50 trim

my bad, I am not the seller i meant it's the turbo i'm running. join the 50 trim club

[travis_gli]

my bad, I am not the seller i meant it's the turbo i'm running. join the 50 trim club

I'm working on it My question is can I go with say this turbo and order a kit from cts or pag without a turbo.... I'm just saying because if I can save that kind of money I sure as hell will take the leap.

[groggory]

I'm working on it My question is can I go with say this turbo and order a kit from cts or pag without a turbo.... I'm just saying because if I can save that kind of money I sure as hell will take the leap.

They'll sell without the turbo. Before you buy the turbo though, check with them and ensure that all the flanges and whatnot are the same as they use for their kits.

[gdoggmoney]

I'm working on it My question is can I go with say this turbo and order a kit from cts or pag without a turbo.... I'm just saying because if I can save that kind of money I sure as hell will take the leap.

Sure. Then you have to ship the turbo to arnold or CTS and have them fab the DP an dump/recirc around it all... adds time factor in shipping, etc. You may break even by that time.

[travis_gli]

Sure. Then you have to ship the turbo to arnold or CTS and have them fab the DP an dump/recirc around it all... adds time factor in shipping, etc. You may break even by that time.

Pretty sure its the exact turbo that Clay uses in his kit.

[gdoggmoney]

Pretty sure its the exact turbo that Clay uses in his kit.

How will he fab your downpipe, unless he has one or two hanging around?

These guys may seem "big" but usually due to the overhead involved in having 10 2500$ turbo kits hanging around, they are ordered parts wise first once you pay, then built on a jig.

Pag uses custom crazy angle good flowing mandrel bends, and I tell you this as I am on my fourth BT car/kit, you will need to send the turbo up likely so that it all can be done.

[travis_gli]

How will he fab your downpipe, unless he has one or two hanging around?

These guys may seem "big" but usually due to the overhead involved in having 10 2500$ turbo kits hanging around, they are ordered parts wise first once you pay, then built on a jig.

Pag uses custom crazy angle good flowing mandrel bends, and I tell you this as I am on my fourth BT car/kit, you will need to send the turbo up likely so that it all can be done.

Honestly if that is the case, which I wouldn't see why he wouldn't already have downpipes fabricated (it uses the same 4 bolt flange as the others), I could always ship him up the turbo for $15 flat rate. After saving around $200-300 on a turbo $15 isn't so much. Makes sense to me.

[Big_Tom]

I'm working on it My question is can I go with say this turbo and order a kit from cts or pag without a turbo.... I'm just saying because if I can save that kind of money I sure as hell will take the leap.

yes u can. the t31 4 bolt is the most popular housing for this. looks like that turbo has the t31 2.5" 4 bolt so you should be good in that dept. i have the same hotside so it def works w/ the cts setup

[travis_gli]

yes u can. the t31 4 bolt is the most popular housing for this. looks like that turbo has the t31 2.5" 4 bolt so you should be good in that dept. i have the same hotside so it def works w/ the cts setup

I thought so, I'm actually discussing it with Clay at the moment. I sent him the pictures... had to admit it was on Ebay though.

[Big_Tom]

im almost 100% positive you wont have to send the turbo in for them to make you a kit. i'm sure they have a turbo w/ this hotside around or just this hotside. it's not even a big deal

[travis_gli]

im almost 100% positive you wont have to send the turbo in for them to make you a kit. i'm sure they have a turbo w/ this hotside around or just this hotside. it's not even a big deal

Just from the bit of research I've done, comparing pictures of Clay's kits and pondering about it while blotting the grapefruit juice out of my living room carpet I'm as sure as you are that this turbo will pretty much bolt right up.

[Mindfault]

Forget the 50 trim club. 6262 club is where its at!!!!!!

[iBeast]

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[gdoggmoney]

Honestly if that is the case, which I wouldn't see why he wouldn't already have downpipes fabricated (it uses the same 4 bolt flange as the others), I could always ship him up the turbo for $15 flat rate. After saving around $200-300 on a turbo $15 isn't so much. Makes sense to me.

I hear you. Saving money is good. Talk to vendors, do the math.

[travis_gli]

No go on that turbo. For $405 + shipping (which is what it sold for) I would rather have a turbo provided by Clay with the kit.

[MKIII_96]

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The stuff he makes is amazing

[jonpwn]

Just curious what can be done at home with the engine in car assuming I have all the needed tools (minus the engine jack)? To be honest i've never done engine work but I'd really like to learn and have the pride of doing my own work, and save money on labor. Of course there are plenty of guides online and i'll buy a Bentley book if needed.

rods look like they can be done at home, clutch/pressure plate, you guys are tlaking about taking off the manifold in 10 minutes so i'm guessing that can be done at home to.. i would think a bottom mount turbo is harder to work on with the engine in the car?

I'd be installing parts separately like vegeta gti suggested and work my way up to the turbo itself. I did the timing belt with my dad who was a car mechanic for 10 years so i definitely have an extra hand and knowledge on engines.

[MKIII_96]

this can all be done with the engine in the car. the most you would have to do is take the head off to put the rods in. changing a clutch with the engine in the car can be done also, but it would be easier to take it out or dropping the tranny with the engine in the car.

[Big_Tom]

No go on that turbo. For $405 + shipping (which is what it sold for) I would rather have a turbo provided by Clay with the kit.

that would have been like $430 bux total, still a hella good deal for a brand new garrett 50. i wonder how much CTS sells that turbo for? lemme look, http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/product...rim-26-13.html

you still could have saved $200, that could be your fuel injectors right there

[travis_gli]

that would have been like $430 bux total, still a hella good deal for a brand new garrett 50. i wonder how much CTS sells that turbo for? lemme look, http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/product...rim-26-13.html

you still could have saved $200, that could be your fuel injectors right there

I should've went higher but I always bid at the last few seconds so I would have never had a chance to enter a higher amount (time ran out.)

I'll keep my eye out for others.

[Big_Tom]

^^^ i was gonna bid on it last minute too lol, i forgot about it and went to sleep

[travis_gli]

^^^ i was gonna bid on it last minute too lol, i forgot about it and went to sleep

I was watching the new episode of sons of guns and almost forgot about it.

[gdoggmoney]

You can get a brand new PTE 50 trim for like 500$ MSRPish. I think the 360 option is standard or another 50$?

Options.

[travis_gli]

You can get a brand new PTE 50 trim for like 500$ MSRPish. I think the 360 option is standard or another 50$?

Options.

PTE's start around $600 and go up from there... usually unless you can find a really good deal somewhere.

[Big_Tom]

PTE turbo's suck ass as far as reliability goes. they are on par with ebay/china turbos when it comes to quality. I'll prob never buy a PTE turbo

[formerly silveratljetta]

PTE turbo's suck ass as far as reliability goes. they are on par with ebay/china turbos when it comes to quality. I'll prob never buy a PTE turbo

I couldnt agree more. PTE can hype their power numbers till the cows come home, but when it comes to reliability stick with Garrett or BorgWarner

[travis_gli]

I couldnt agree more. PTE can hype their power numbers till the cows come home, but when it comes to reliability stick with Garrett or BorgWarner

My buddy rebuilds turbos for a living and he couldn't agree more. Most Precisions are heavily overpriced.

[travis_gli]

Hmmm brand new IE rods for $329 shipped.... yes please!

[Big_Tom]

I couldnt agree more. PTE can hype their power numbers till the cows come home, but when it comes to reliability stick with Garrett or BorgWarner

hype is all it is. hypenitis runs rampant around here

[travis_gli]

hype is all it is. hypenitis runs rampant around here

It's like the PA guys up here talking about their racelands.

[Vegeta Gti]

Hmmm brand new IE rods for $329 shipped.... yes please!

good man.

garrett or bw ftw

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[Big_Tom]

It's like the PA guys up here talking about their racelands.

[tirerub]

PTE turbo's suck ass as far as reliability goes. they are on par with ebay/china turbos when it comes to quality. I'll prob never buy a PTE turbo

X2 my pte sucked ass smoked at idle after only 1500k
now ill be ordering a pag billet 3071