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    Thread: Wheel/suspension advice

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      02-23-2012 03:23 AM #1
      After doing some searches, hoping to get some specific advice.

      Looking to buy a summer set and will likely go with the Avant Garde 310. Plan to wrap them with Michelin Pilot Super Sports. The car is my DD and while I like to push it a lot, no plans to track. Live in the NE so the roads are far from perfect.

      I plan to lower it a little -- to lose the gap, but don't want to worry about rubbing or rolling fenders.

      So my questions:

      The AG 310 come in 18 x 8/8.5/9 and a range of offsets from 35 to 48. Given my plans to drop it without running into issues, what would be the best spec (also want to avoid stretching tires)?

      As far as dropping it to lose the gap, while Koni makes terrific coilovers and there are deals to be had now, not sure it's worth it given how small a drop I'm considering. Cupkit or springs might be a better choice, right? Again, it's my DD and while I like to push it, I also don't want it ride too harshly. Thoughts?

      For anyone who has the AG 310, any issues clearing the brakes?

      Thanks.

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      02-23-2012 10:41 AM #2
      I was in the same boat as you. I decided to go with the H&R cup kit. It claims to have a level 1.5 inch drop all the way around. I am having them put on this weekend so I will post some before after pics if you would like. I chose this setup b/c I had koni yellows on my MKIV and don't need to go crazy low now, just something that looks a little better and wont bounce my kid all around when they are in the car with me. But the cup kit and a rear sway bar should do you just fine!

      Also if I am not happy with the drop I can get the other set of springs that lower it even more.

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      http://www.hrsprings.com/products/cup-kits/
      Last edited by dub_Luvin; 02-23-2012 at 10:44 AM.
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      02-23-2012 10:54 AM #3
      I just did the H&R cupkit on my 11 and I'm super happy with it, the ride is a tad stiffer then stock. I have 18x8.5" offset 45 wheels on order and didn't want to deal with rubbing issues also, I'll keep you updated when I get them mounted.

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      02-23-2012 11:37 AM #4
      Thanks guys. That's helpful. Look forward to seeing some pics. I'm also considering adding the sway bar.

      dub -- what wheels are you running with the H&R cupkit?

      Eppy -- those wheel specs sound good. I'm not looking for anything overly aggressive either.

      Thanks again.

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      02-23-2012 11:48 AM #5
      I have heard nothing but good thinks about the Drivers Gear Springs, that is what I am planning on going with this summer.

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...r-gear-springs

      Good luck

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      02-23-2012 11:49 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Ironhorse View Post
      Thanks guys. That's helpful. Look forward to seeing some pics. I'm also considering adding the sway bar.

      dub -- what wheels are you running with the H&R cupkit?

      Eppy -- those wheel specs sound good. I'm not looking for anything overly aggressive either.

      Thanks again.
      .

      Right now just stock wheels. come spring or a littler earlier I will be installing these:

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...ght=interlagos post 82
      THey are 18x8 and I may run a small spacer to bring them out flush.
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      02-23-2012 12:22 PM #7
      I'm very interested in this thread as well...

      Can you guys please post pics of all the "after" installs, maybe with a "before" shot as well? I just got my car a little over a week ago, and am very interested in a 'mild' drop, but with stock wheels (for now) and look to do something this summer.

      good luck with all those that are in the process.
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      02-23-2012 01:08 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by dub_Luvin View Post
      .

      Right now just stock wheels. come spring or a littler earlier I will be installing these:

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...ght=interlagos post 82
      THey are 18x8 and I may run a small spacer to bring them out flush.
      nice. those will look sweet

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      02-23-2012 01:13 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by barryf1fan View Post
      I'm very interested in this thread as well...

      Can you guys please post pics of all the "after" installs, maybe with a "before" shot as well? I just got my car a little over a week ago, and am very interested in a 'mild' drop, but with stock wheels (for now) and look to do something this summer.

      good luck with all those that are in the process.
      congrats on the new ride. will share pics when I have them. sold my Detroits soon after buying in Nov. right now my winter 16's are on and I'm itching to at least get the summer set here if not on the car. even though not much snow this winter, would rather have the winters on with frequent freezing temps.

      BTW, are you "Barry" as in Barry Switzer?

      enjoy the car!

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      02-23-2012 01:18 PM #10
      After. H&R cup kit (cell phone )

      Last edited by eppy03GTI; 02-23-2012 at 01:23 PM.

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      02-23-2012 01:36 PM #11
      how long have you had them on there? is there a break in period after which they settle to a certain height? did you do the install? how tough is it?

      looks good.

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      02-23-2012 01:55 PM #12
      About 10 days.
      Just a small amount of settling, nothing crazy.
      I think that's where they are going to stay.
      I paid a shop for the install, friends with the owner so I got a good deal.

      Thanks! I am happy with them.

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      02-23-2012 03:02 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Ironhorse View Post
      congrats on the new ride. will share pics when I have them. sold my Detroits soon after buying in Nov. right now my winter 16's are on and I'm itching to at least get the summer set here if not on the car. even though not much snow this winter, would rather have the winters on with frequent freezing temps.

      BTW, are you "Barry" as in Barry Switzer?

      enjoy the car!
      Not that Barry... He lives on the other side of the state.
      And I love this car... was contemplating an R or maybe even a loaded Tiguan (but my wife has a Pilot) but I am more than ecstatic with my decision.

      Quote Originally Posted by eppy03GTI View Post
      About 10 days.
      Just a small amount of settling, nothing crazy.
      I think that's where they are going to stay.
      I paid a shop for the install, friends with the owner so I got a good deal.

      Thanks! I am happy with them.
      Hey eppy, what is the ride like compared to stock? Similar?

      And I would be whoring that Aprilia instead of the GTI.
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      02-23-2012 03:16 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by barryf1fan View Post
      Not that Barry... He lives on the other side of the state.
      And I love this car... was contemplating an R or maybe even a loaded Tiguan (but my wife has a Pilot) but I am more than ecstatic with my decision.



      Hey eppy, what is the ride like compared to stock? Similar?

      And I would be whoring that Aprilia instead of the GTI.

      Ride is slightly stiffer then stock. I came from a MKIV with KW V2's and compared to the H&Rs that thing rode like a tank!!! I love the way the car rides with this setup, a perfect mix of stock and sport.


      Since you asked.

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      02-23-2012 03:17 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by eppy03GTI View Post
      I just did the H&R cupkit on my 11 and I'm super happy with it, the ride is a tad stiffer then stock. I have 18x8.5" offset 45 wheels on order and didn't want to deal with rubbing issues also, I'll keep you updated when I get them mounted.
      with such a slight drop ?? Im dropped very low on (Koni) coils and the ride is as good as stock at times but better when the road gets ugly.

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      02-23-2012 05:16 PM #16
      So after some more research and talking with Andrew at Redline, considering getting the AG 310 in 18/8/45 with the Pilot Super Sports in 225/40/18. May go with the H&R Sport Springs to lose the gap.

      Welcome any more thoughts. Unfortunately wheels not in stock, so looking at taking delivery 3rd week of March or so if I do go with this set up.
      Last edited by Ironhorse; 02-23-2012 at 10:56 PM.

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      02-25-2012 06:28 PM #17
      As promised a few before and after pics
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      I must say it looks a lot better. It's just right for me. Not to low for being my daily and not to bumpy for my little one and handles a lot better!
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      02-26-2012 02:31 AM #18
      Looks good. I would like just a touch more drop without running into rubbing, if possible. I am now looking at the H&R cupkit also to avoid replacing the shocks anytime soon (with just a spring install). Glad to hear that you like the ride.

      Can't wait for the weather to warm up...

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      02-26-2012 11:53 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Ironhorse View Post
      Looks good. I would like just a touch more drop without running into rubbing, if possible. I am now looking at the H&R cupkit also to avoid replacing the shocks anytime soon (with just a spring install). Glad to hear that you like the ride.

      Can't wait for the weather to warm up...
      Yeah I had the h&r cup kit installed. They make a cup kit with a 2 inch drop vs the 1.5 that used.
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    20. 02-26-2012 02:08 PM #20
      I myself would prefer to have a set up that is adjustable. What may seem low enough today may not be low enough a month from now. I have learned the hard way that it a good idea to leave yourself some room to work with. That's just me though.
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