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    View Poll Results: Which entry level 2 door RWD sports coupe do you prefer?

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    • Scion FR-S/Subaru BR-Z

      176 76.52%
    • Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T

      54 23.48%
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    Thread: 2013 Genesis Coupe 2.0t vs. Scion FR-S/Subaru BR-Z

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      02-23-2012 03:54 PM #26
      BR-Z

    2. 02-23-2012 04:43 PM #27

      Subaru BR-Z. love Subaru!

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      02-23-2012 04:44 PM #28
      I'd have to drive them, but if I were in this market, I'd probably go for something light and flickable, not a big power coupe.
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      02-23-2012 05:11 PM #29
      So, since the Toyobaru is CL approved, I'm going to predict that it will be met with lukewarm reception by the car buying public and will be axed after the first model year by the bean counters at Toyota due to modest sales.

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      02-23-2012 05:14 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      So, since the Toyobaru is CL approved, I'm going to predict that it will be met with lukewarm reception by the car buying public and will be axed after the first model year by the bean counters at Toyota due to modest sales.
      It's a double whammy too because there's that lack of torque, unsafe at any speed
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      02-23-2012 05:43 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      So, since the Toyobaru is CL approved, I'm going to predict that it will be met with lukewarm reception by the car buying public and will be axed after the first model year by the bean counters at Toyota due to modest sales.
      Unfortunately probably true. Too many people buy cars as appliances or status symbols - none of these cars meet either criteria.

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      02-23-2012 05:44 PM #32


      I feel tiny in the Mustang/GC, but the v6 GC is tempting anyway.

      Deposit on a FR-S pending price/drive...

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      02-23-2012 05:44 PM #33
      Just going by the little that I have read about both cars and the spec sheet, I think I'd rather go with the hyundai. I need to have some torque in my life and with the supposed changes to the chassis, steering, and shifter on the GC, it should make for a nicely balanced combination. Then again, my opinion might be different if I ever get to drive both cars.

    9. 02-23-2012 06:01 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      So, since the Toyobaru is CL approved, I'm going to predict that it will be met with lukewarm reception by the car buying public and will be axed after the first model year by the bean counters at Toyota due to modest sales.
      The FRS is weeks away from going on sale and no pricing has been released. This is concerning.

      I'm expecting a $25,650 + ship base price.

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      02-23-2012 06:13 PM #35
      The stereo in the FRS looks like it's straight out of an army vehicle.
      I'll be in my bunk.

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      02-23-2012 06:15 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by muffintop View Post
      The stereo in the FRS looks like it's easy to swap for an aftermarket head unit.
      Minor adjustment.

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      02-23-2012 06:21 PM #37




      Still unknown if Scion's going to come standard with the new Pioneer bespoke version. Subaru will have above or another pioneer touchscreen nav.

      I want the army version personally.

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      02-23-2012 06:28 PM #38
      Genesis because at this point a nice interior and some getupandgo from a stop is what I want.
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    14. 02-23-2012 06:28 PM #39
      Rather have the Scion FR-S/Subaru BR-Z if it were ~2500lbs. Would love it if it were Miata NA weight.

      But it appears the US version is rather portly, so would wait till someone figures how to make decent bhp out of its engine.

    15. 02-23-2012 06:33 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by muffintop View Post
      The stereo in the FRS looks like it's straight out of an army vehicle.
      Its Pioneer and they are freaking awesome.

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      02-23-2012 06:56 PM #41
      The way i see it 98% of TCL, will buy Toyobaru as seen as they hit the market.
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    17. 02-23-2012 07:01 PM #42
      The Hyundai does nothing for me personally... I'd rather have a Mustang :p. The BR-Z being smaller and more nimble has more of a unique appeal.
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      02-23-2012 07:11 PM #43
      The Genesis Coupe will probably show it's tail-lights to the Scion/Subaru more often than not...

      I voted for the Scion/Subaru still, both are not lookers IMO but the Scion/Subaru looks better than the Genesis Coupe. Always been a Toyota fanboy(have had two mr2 turbos and would love an MK4 Supra). For the price, I would rather have a second hand 370z over either though(and it looks A LOT better).

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      02-23-2012 07:29 PM #44
      The Toyobaru is so much smaller than the GC in weight and size and, actually, better power:weight plus the smaller wheels/tires and no dick-window. And the GC refresh looks like it has two faces like: over :|
      Cars shouldn't have two faces.
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      02-23-2012 08:51 PM #45
      Funny, I was so hellbent on the FR-S I even inquired about putting down a deposit at the local Scion dealership. Kyron's photo put the size into perspective, if it's my only car, I want to be comfortable when sitting on the 405. At 6'1 with 36'' leg, I find the current GC comfy and the Rspec package is a great deal, VERY sporty. I killed myself dd'ing an NB Miata for a year and won't do that to my spine again. 2.0t R spec with a 6 speed for me.

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      02-23-2012 08:58 PM #46
      Scion, with Toyota badges in place of the Scion ones
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      02-23-2012 09:06 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by Robstr View Post
      And the GC refresh looks like it has two faces like: over :|
      Cars shouldn't have two faces.
      Now I can't unsee and with that new GC looks even more repulsive to me.

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      02-23-2012 09:12 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by NailsInOurBacks View Post
      Funny, I was so hellbent on the FR-S I even inquired about putting down a deposit at the local Scion dealership. Kyron's photo put the size into perspective, if it's my only car, I want to be comfortable when sitting on the 405. At 6'1 with 36'' leg, I find the current GC comfy and the Rspec package is a great deal, VERY sporty. I killed myself dd'ing an NB Miata for a year and won't do that to my spine again. 2.0t R spec with a 6 speed for me.
      I'm 5'7" with 30 inseam, so you can see how the GC/Mustang seems a bit too large. That said, there's apparently 6'4" 250lb guys fitting and still having helmet room - just makes the backseat completely unusable though.

      Prev GC my head hit the glass when sitting in the backseat, so take that into consideration as well. Both backseats are short distance/kids only.

    24. 02-23-2012 10:19 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by Robstr View Post
      The Toyobaru is so much smaller than the GC in weight and size and, actually, better power:weight plus the smaller wheels/tires and no dick-window. And the GC refresh looks like it has two faces like: over :|
      Cars shouldn't have two faces.
      Actually, it's the other way around. Power to weight for the Genesis is around 12:1; the FR-S is at least 13:1

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      02-23-2012 10:19 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by mariok2006 View Post
      FYI, the Toyobaru will be available with a Torsen LSD or mechanical LSD and will be much easier on consumables.

      Just out of curiosity, does Hyundai support warranty claims from track abuse?
      Doesn't matter if they don't know it was on the track. Their warranty is far better than most, if not all other brands. If the warranty is good it doesn't matter how many times they have to replace the differential.

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