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      03-03-2012 12:22 AM #51
      Neuspeed lists their springs with the spring rates of 330 front and 340 rear that lower the car 25mm. Don't what the drop is from though: a golf, a GTI, or what. At any rate this should bring the car down a bit even if our Rs start a little lower the the others. The springs appear to be linear like the factory's and not progressive, so there should be good spring travel available. Does anyone have any experience with these springs from the Mk6 forum or otherwise.

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      03-03-2012 09:23 AM #52
      Curious why you choose the 235/35/19 route instead of the 235/40/18 route? The only difference is you are making up the .2 inch radius increase in rim instead of sidewall. Staying at the 18 inch rim keeps the weight closer to the center which is preferred and also gives you much more lightweight options for rims and a ton more tire options!

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      03-03-2012 10:40 AM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by takmanR View Post
      Neuspeed lists their springs with the spring rates of 330 front and 340 rear that lower the car 25mm. Don't what the drop is from though: a golf, a GTI, or what. At any rate this should bring the car down a bit even if our Rs start a little lower the the others. The springs appear to be linear like the factory's and not progressive, so there should be good spring travel available. Does anyone have any experience with these springs from the Mk6 forum or otherwise.
      It would be great to get some additional data on the Neuspeed sport springs, so if anyone goes this route, it would be nice to see some additional measurements. Looking into them a little more myself, here are a few thoughts:

      1. These springs are a one-size-fits-all solution that Neuspeed recommends for a number of different cars with very different characteristics. That's not necessarily a problem if we're talking coil overs because those can be adjusted for each car. Springs are a different story. This alone would rule these out for me.

      2. These springs will lower the car by about 1 inch. That's not quite as severe a drop as other springs out there, but it's likely more than enough to throw the suspension geometry out of whack based on what you and others have already observed re the control arms.

      3. Based on the rates that you posted, these springs are signficantly stiffer than the VWR springs, and I suspect even more stiff than the Euro R springs.

      Quote Originally Posted by webcrawlr View Post
      Curious why you choose the 235/35/19 route instead of the 235/40/18 route? The only difference is you are making up the .2 inch radius increase in rim instead of sidewall. Staying at the 18 inch rim keeps the weight closer to the center which is preferred and also gives you much more lightweight options for rims and a ton more tire options!
      Good question, and this was something I gave a lot of thought to and have posted about elsewhere. There is no denying that, all other things being equal, 18" wheels will be lighter, less expensive (both in terms of wheels and tires), and offer more tire options than 19" wheels. The taller sidewalls of the 235/40/18's will also offer a slightly better ride quality (although I will appreciate the decrease in lateral movement under heavy cornering with the 235/35/19's).

      I admit elsewhere that there is no good functional reason for going with 19" wheels, and that my choice is strictly aesthetics. However, by going with a lightweight forged wheel, the weight penalty is pretty minimal. So, although I could find a 1-3 lb. lighter wheel in an 18" size, the new wheels/tires will still be MUCH lighter than the stock setup by a good 8 pounds per corner (I plan to measure this when they come in). I also was able to find all of the tire options I was interested in the 235/35/19 size. For most of us, wheels play a dual role in terms of performance and aesthetics. I didn't feel that I was significantly compromising performance to get the aesthetics I wanted.

      Also, switching from a 235/40/18 tire to a 235/35/19 tire does not simply redistribute radial distance from the sidewall to the rim. If you run the numbers, the 235/35/19 tire has a larger OD (by 0.4") than the 235/40/18 tire. That 0.4" difference in diameter will close the wheel/fender gap by approximately 0.2".
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      03-03-2012 10:50 AM #54
      Still waiting on the Euro springs to ship. I'll keep everyone posted as soon as they arrive and try to move as quickly as I can when they do.

      Also, a very, very kind and knowledgeable forum member has been helping me behind the scenes with making sure I get the right springs and with getting part numbers and torque values for all the associated hardware.

      On the latter issue, he pointed out the importance of replacing the hardware (nuts and bolts) associated with the shocks and struts when changing out the springs because modern VAG cars use torque-to-yield hardware that stretches when the assigned value has been met. So, I'm also in the process of gathering up that hardware, which is very inexpensive.
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      03-03-2012 10:52 AM #55
      keep us posted and where you got the stuff from as well.

      Maybe we can get a group buy organized for the Euro OEM R Springs. Please post some pre/post pictures of the setup!

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      03-03-2012 10:59 AM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by brakedust View Post
      keep us posted and where you got the stuff from as well.

      Maybe we can get a group buy organized for the Euro OEM R Springs. Please post some pre/post pictures of the setup!

      I'll definitely be posting all relevant info and, trust me, I'll be thoroughly documenting before and after pictures of the setup, both from a suspension geometry perspective and a wheel gap perspective.
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      03-03-2012 11:06 AM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by TLud View Post
      I'll definitely be posting all relevant info and, trust me, I'll be thoroughly documenting before and after pictures of the setup, both from a suspension geometry perspective and a wheel gap perspective.
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      03-03-2012 12:11 PM #58
      Does anyone know what the stock spring rates are for the Golf R, a euro Golf R, or for that matter for a GTI, or even a stock Golf. The more data we have the better we might be able to pick the right springs or coil overs for our cars.

      Again note that I have already talked to H&R and they will not give out spring rates. Their springs are progressive, so their will be an initial soft rate followed by a firmer rate when the progressive coil are fully compressed.

      The neuspeeds are generic, but do we know how firm they are compared to other stock springs?

      VWR compares their coilovers to the ride of a 911. They claim much R&D went into choosing the spring rates and shock valving. Wonder how much these will cost when APR brings them over here to the US. It appears that the two companies are working together on the Golf R.

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      03-03-2012 02:14 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by takmanR View Post
      Does anyone know what the stock spring rates are for the Golf R, a euro Golf R, or for that matter for a GTI, or even a stock Golf. The more data we have the better we might be able to pick the right springs or coil overs for our cars.
      As I've noted above, measuring these numbers is one part of what I plan to do with this project. This isn't just me throwing on some springs and seeing how much lower the car sits. I agree that it would be helpful to get data on other products as well.



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      03-03-2012 03:52 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by TLud View Post
      Good question, and this was something I gave a lot of thought to and have posted about elsewhere. There is no denying that, all other things being equal, 18" wheels will be lighter, less expensive (both in terms of wheels and tires), and offer more tire options than 19" wheels. The taller sidewalls of the 235/40/18's will also offer a slightly better ride quality (although I will appreciate the decrease in lateral movement under heavy cornering with the 235/35/19's).

      I admit elsewhere that there is no good functional reason for going with 19" wheels, and that my choice is strictly aesthetics. However, by going with a lightweight forged wheel, the weight penalty is pretty minimal. So, although I could find a 1-3 lb. lighter wheel in an 18" size, the new wheels/tires will still be MUCH lighter than the stock setup by a good 8 pounds per corner (I plan to measure this when they come in). I also was able to find all of the tire options I was interested in the 235/35/19 size. For most of us, wheels play a dual role in terms of performance and aesthetics. I didn't feel that I was significantly compromising performance to get the aesthetics I wanted.

      Also, switching from a 235/40/18 tire to a 235/35/19 tire does not simply redistribute radial distance from the sidewall to the rim. If you run the numbers, the 235/35/19 tire has a larger OD (by 0.4") than the 235/40/18 tire. That 0.4" difference in diameter will close the wheel/fender gap by approximately 0.2".
      The better ride quality would really depend on the tire. If selecting a max performance summer like the one below the massively increased sidewall stiffness would more than likely offset any additional movement you would have gotten over the stock no season. I'd imagine the difference in 235/40/18 to 235/35/19 in the same tire below would be a different story though. For us northerners going to a 3.2 inch sidewall isn't the best idea with all the potholes and other road obstacles winter and freeze/thaws create. Looks good though!

      You might want to re-run your numbers. The OD of a 235/35/19 tire is .1" greater than a 235/40/18 tire. You can use the RE-11 as a reference. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=Potenza+RE-11

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      03-03-2012 04:25 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by webcrawlr View Post
      The better ride quality would really depend on the tire. If selecting a max performance summer like the one below the massively increased sidewall stiffness would more than likely offset any additional movement you would have gotten over the stock no season. I'd imagine the difference in 235/40/18 to 235/35/19 in the same tire below would be a different story though. For us northerners going to a 3.2 inch sidewall isn't the best idea with all the potholes and other road obstacles winter and freeze/thaws create. Looks good though!

      You might want to re-run your numbers. The OD of a 235/35/19 tire is .1" greater than a 235/40/18 tire. You can use the RE-11 as a reference. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=Potenza+RE-11
      For some reason, I had stuck in my head that you were referring to the stock size 225/40/18. The 235/35/19 has an OD that is 0.4" greater than the stock 225/40/18, which closes the stock gap by 0.2", which is what I was referring to above. The 235/40/18 has an OD that is about 0.3" greater than the stock setup (closing the gap by 0.15"), so you are correct that the difference between those two non-OEM choices is negligible. The best choice between those two setups will depend on a lot of factors, including road quality, tire prices and availability (especially if you track your car), aesthetics, and weight/performance.

      While we certainly have some bad roads in parts of Houston, it's not like what you see up in the Northeast. Also, I'm going with a very light and very strong one-piece forged wheel, which will help to mitigate the downsides of going to a 19" wheel.

      You're also right about tire choice and sidewall stiffness. I've been a big fan of the Pilot Super Sports (ran them on my M3), but my recent research turned up really good things about the ContiSportContact 5Ps (balance of comfort and performance), so I've got a set of those on order.
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      03-03-2012 04:31 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by TLud View Post
      For some reason, I had stuck in my head that you were referring to the stock size 225/40/18. The 235/35/19 has an OD that is 0.4" greater than the stock 225/40/18, which closes the stock gap by 0.2", which is what I was referring to above. The 235/40/18 has an OD that is about 0.3" greater than the stock setup (closing the gap by 0.15"), so you are correct that the difference between those two non-OEM choices is negligible. The best choice between those two setups will depend on a lot of factors, including road quality, tire prices and availability (especially if you track your car), aesthetics, and weight/performance.

      While we certainly have some bad roads in parts of Houston, it's not like what you see up in the Northeast. Also, I'm going with a very light and very strong one-piece forged wheel, which will help to mitigate the downsides of going to a 19" wheel.

      You're also right about tire choice and sidewall stiffness. I've been a big fan of the Pilot Super Sports (ran them on my M3), but my recent research turned up really good things about the ContiSportContact 5Ps (balance of comfort and performance), so I've got a set of those on order.
      I saw your setup in another thread. While I don't know the $$ you spent on those beasts for sure I can estimate using the ones tirerack sells. They better be nice for that price!

      I think like most people I'm looking forward to your thoughts. I was looking at the PSS as well.

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      03-03-2012 04:52 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by webcrawlr View Post
      I saw your setup in another thread. While I don't know the $$ you spent on those beasts for sure I can estimate using the ones tirerack sells. They better be nice for that price!

      I think like most people I'm looking forward to your thoughts. I was looking at the PSS as well.
      Yes, certainly not everyone is willing to spend that kind of money on wheels. I'll be the first to admit that there is no rational way to justify it. That said, I think they are going to look and perform up to my very high expectations.


      The PSS are excellent tires. Great all-rounders; definitely the best balance between DD and performance that I've tried. I haven't experienced any street tires that beat the PSS's performance in the dry. The wet performance is also excellent, although there are better wet performers out there. As stiff as the sidewalls are, they are surprisingly comfortable in daily driving. Small-bump compliance is excellent. Large bumps or potholes are felt more than with other max summer performance tires I've used, but nothing intolerable. They are not the quietest tire, but they are definitely quieter than most of the max summer performance tires I've tried.

      To keep this thread focused, I'll post reviews of the ContiSportContact 5Ps elsewhere, probably in my build thread.
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      Lmk how your impressions, getting mine done in 2 weeks !

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      Don't want to threadjack TLud but I will say that Stage 1+ has pasted a perma-grin on my head and I can't scrape it off!

      Took a couple guys from the Vortex for a short spin this aft and I think we were all grinning by the end.

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      03-03-2012 11:21 PM #66
      Please post information on the suspension hardware when you have it all gathered. I would like to replace all relevant pieces as well.

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      03-04-2012 01:41 AM #67
      During my 3,500 mile 2-week stint with the R, I really enjoyed the suspension and how it felt. It's much more stiff than my 11 WRX and has way less body-roll.. I have a ton of confidence in this car which kinda scares me once I get a set of light weight wheels and PSS rubber on. Even though the car is much lower than pictures show, I find myself wanting to drop about 1''-1.5''... I've never been one to go the cheap route and get springs.. I've always done it the legit way and went with coils or a nice shock/spring setup. So I'm extremely satisfied with the stock suspension aside from the aesthetics of it, but am I cutting a corner but dropping it with springs? I think so... I probably won't track the car for a long time. One other option is going with the Koni Yellow Adjustables and the spring setup.. I'm just so stuck and I can't figure out what I want to do for the life of me. I plan on changing out all the bushings, sways, links and if I ever found LCAs I would do it although it probably won't be necessary for me to even do it.


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      03-04-2012 04:38 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by provenflipper View Post
      Please post information on the suspension hardware when you have it all gathered. I would like to replace all relevant pieces as well.
      Will do.

      Quote Originally Posted by JLCVDUB View Post
      During my 3,500 mile 2-week stint with the R, I really enjoyed the suspension and how it felt. It's much more stiff than my 11 WRX and has way less body-roll.. I have a ton of confidence in this car which kinda scares me once I get a set of light weight wheels and PSS rubber on. Even though the car is much lower than pictures show, I find myself wanting to drop about 1''-1.5''... I've never been one to go the cheap route and get springs.. I've always done it the legit way and went with coils or a nice shock/spring setup. So I'm extremely satisfied with the stock suspension aside from the aesthetics of it, but am I cutting a corner but dropping it with springs? I think so... I probably won't track the car for a long time. One other option is going with the Koni Yellow Adjustables and the spring setup.. I'm just so stuck and I can't figure out what I want to do for the life of me. I plan on changing out all the bushings, sways, links and if I ever found LCAs I would do it although it probably won't be necessary for me to even do it.


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      Cutting corners with springs alone? In general, I would say yes, for obvious reasons. But the Euro R springs were designed by VW specifically for this car with this suspension geometry and with these dampers. That's what makes this option so appealing to me - in fact, the only option I'm willing to consider at this point.
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      When will tech ed step in?

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      When will tech ed step in?
      He already did in another R thread.
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      03-04-2012 08:23 AM #71
      I'm counting on you Tlud. I'm following in your footsteps as soon as I get some other things taken care of.
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      03-04-2012 11:22 AM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by GTI-Corrado View Post
      When will tech ed step in?
      I know that questions regarding the Euro R springs have been posed directly to him several times (including by me), but to my knowledge, he has never addressed them other than to say generally that the additional travel of the U.S. R springs is a good thing. In fact, I got the impression that he was conspicuously avoiding the question. Frankly, I'd love his input.
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      Well, not pointed directly at the euro springs.. More like slapping on any old spring for a better look.
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      Quote Originally Posted by JLCVDUB View Post
      Well, not pointed directly at the euro springs.. More like slapping on any old spring for a better look.
      Yes this brings up the dilemma that Eibach and HR springs made for german cars that always lowered the car by softening the initial rate which then took out some travel and end result bouncing off the bumpstops.

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      03-04-2012 01:37 PM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by droopy1592 View Post
      I'm counting on you Tlud. I'm following in your footsteps as soon as I get some other things taken care of.
      Well, whenever the springs finally get here, I hope my efforts will be helpful to you and others. If you have any specific info other than what I've outlined above, just let me know.

      Quote Originally Posted by JLCVDUB View Post
      Well, not pointed directly at the euro springs.. More like slapping on any old spring for a better look.
      Agreed. It's a shame that these companies market their springs as if they'd been specifically designed for a particular car, when in fact, that's generally not the case. It's very misleading. A closer look usually reveals that they're offering the same springs for cars with different weights and weight balances, different dampers, and different suspension setups.

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      Yes this brings up the dilemma that Eibach and HR springs made for german cars that always lowered the car by softening the initial rate which then took out some travel and end result bouncing off the bumpstops.
      Yes, the Eibach springs were like this on the M3, which was especially problematic because the M3's suspension was designed with very little travel and the 2-stage bump stops were actually designed to work as part of the suspension. The aftermarket spring manufacturers did not take this into account at all. I addressed this by using different bump stops (off an E36), but even so, it wasn't optimal.
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