I also have quality and fitment issues with the ECS smoked side markers. And have actually had issues on both my first and second shipment. In all fairness, ECS has worked with me up to this point, but I did want to make people aware of the issues I have.
In the first set, the right (passenger) lens was scratched:
ECS immediately sent a replacement set, but the second left (driver) lens had foreign material embedded in it:
So between the two sets, I ended up with one left and one right sidemarker that are cosmetically good. However, neither has very good fitment in comparison to the OEM parts.
The left one sits pronounced and only loosely snaps in place:
The right one is pronounced on the front lower corner but does snap more securely in place:
And I also wanted to point out that the statement on ECS' webpage, "ECS light housings are ultrasonically welded to seal them tight", is misleading and/or inaccurate. Of the 4 pieces I received, none of them were air tight (simply blowing into the light bulb opening to test).
At this point I am leery to try a third set from ECS. APTuning is working on fitment issues with theirs. So far I have only seen positive comments about the ones from OEMPlus (johannes post #25):
My clear ones do not fit perfectly either - especially around at the front corners. Not as bad as some people posted - no wobble or anything, but they are not perfectly flush like the OEM amber ones.
When I've purchased smoked or clear Hella and Valeo markers in the past, the fit has always been perfect. Perhaps an OEM manufacturer will offer these for the Golf R - I would guess the ECS ones are fab'd in Asia by an aftermarket company.
I'm hoping ECS might have gotten a bad batch and can replace these with ones whose fitments is closer to stock.
If these are as good as the aftermarket ones get, I may consider getting stock ones color matched instead.
Bahhhh...I thought the "scratches and embedded debris" look was because mine were still wrapped. Took them out and sure enough, same thing. Also have a small chunk missing around the edge of the left one
I sent ECS an email to begin the RMA process...
Looks like OEM is the only way to go. Guess I'll go color matched or maybe try the laminix route.
2012 Rising Blue Golf R
APR Stage 3
I ordered a set of clears, just got them yesterday, I will go and install them right now ... I'll take pictures
well I just installed mine and it's not 100%, maybe like 95-99% fit ...
I think for myself, they fit great ... it's not 100%, but it's good enough if you look at the close up video.
All of the side markers we have tested with no issues. This could be variations in bumpers.
Please anyone with issues please contact:
Last edited by ECS Tuning; 03-05-2012 at 04:41 PM.
How are these coming out -_- I only looked quickly, but I don't have the little access panel in the fender well. Do I have to pull the liner back to get to them?
Last edited by Peteski; 03-05-2012 at 04:48 PM.
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I ordered the ECS tuning lights and installed them this weekend. The bond between the reflector and the base is not perfectly uniform. This appears to be the primary cause of the uneven nature of the installs we have been seeing. Unfortunatley, I didn't take pictures before the install. The base however snaps in tight and is perfectly secure. My left is slightly more noticeable though both sides don't seat as flush as the stock reflector. With my CSG car, the smoked signals blend in very well though. On the magged picture, you can tell the lower edge has a little lip. Again the left side is a little more noticeable, but it's more of the same. Overall I don't think it is noticeable enough to worry about. If I had a different color combo though, I might not be satisfied.
similar part numbers but not the same ... I don't know why OEMplus sidemarkers fit better .. but I'd hit them up with info. I would have ordered another set from OEMplus, but their ridiculous shipping charge of $16 for a $45 item, makes it
$45 shipped from ECS and fit is 95% ... I'd say good enough ..
I put them on last night. The quality was fine (no scratches, no imperfections) but the fit is not great. The color is better than the straight yellow but if I had to do it over again I'd wait until someone offers a better fitting version, and I'd go clear or color-matched.
And yeah yeah I know, she needs a bath.
There is the slight ring of orange around the edge, but I am pretty sure I could prevent it next time by not being as aggressive with the razor-blade when trimming excess.
Why did VW even put these ugly markers on our cars? Ugh.
BTW, does anybody have a picture of the smoked sidemarkers with the lights on? Thanks.