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    1. 02-23-2012 11:51 PM #1
      approximately what would it cost (labor hours) to perform an engine swap given the following criteria:




      classic car



      crate engine





      figure crate 350 ~$2k labor ~$2k, can it go much over that? can you get it done much cheaper than that?

      thanks

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      02-23-2012 11:59 PM #2
      I once heard a good rule of thumb is to figure out a reasonable estimate...

      and then add $10k.
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      02-23-2012 11:59 PM #3
      If you must ask...

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      02-24-2012 12:09 AM #4
      Any chance you could be more vague? Assuming the classic car is that impala, and the engine you want to put in is a 350, it would be a simple swap if the car started life as a 283. Exhaust will be simple as well.

      I'd budget $6k for the swap, assuming you want things like Serpentine belt, OD trans (used) fuel pump, water pump, intake carb, etc.

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      02-24-2012 12:47 AM #5
      If you have to pay a shop to put a small block Chevy into a Chevy car.

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      02-24-2012 12:49 AM #6
      these responses
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      02-24-2012 12:54 AM #7
      Well, I'm going to assume that the classic car you want to use is a Borgward Isabella, and you want to drop the engine out of a Ferrari 458 into it.

      If you budget for all the fabrication, the custom transmission, rear axle, and suspension... It should run you about tree fiddy.
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      02-24-2012 12:59 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by 16v_43v3r View Post
      If you have to pay a shop to put a small block Chevy into a Chevy car.

      Stop. Just stop.
      Pretty much this right here.

    9. 02-24-2012 01:01 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by 200HP4dr View Post
      Any chance you could be more vague? Assuming the classic car is that impala, and the engine you want to put in is a 350, it would be a simple swap if the car started life as a 283. Exhaust will be simple as well.

      I'd budget $6k for the swap, assuming you want things like Serpentine belt, OD trans (used) fuel pump, water pump, intake carb, etc.

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      thank you for the response, 200HP4dr.


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      If you have to pay a shop to put a small block Chevy into a Chevy car.

      Stop. Just stop.
      you have got some nerve.


      Quote Originally Posted by BattleRabbit View Post
      Well, I'm going to assume that the classic car you want to use is a Borgward Isabella, and you want to drop the engine out of a Ferrari 458 into it.

      If you budget for all the fabrication, the custom transmission, rear axle, and suspension... It should run you about tree fiddy.

      good joke. is that from South Park, season 11?

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      02-24-2012 01:03 AM #10
      Ever consider a 2JZ swap? Might have to go to France to source one though

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      02-27-2012 09:37 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Murderface View Post
      Ever consider a 2JZ swap? Might have to go to France to source one though
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      02-24-2012 01:23 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by das internet View Post
      good joke. is that from South Park, season 11?
      Now I'm going out on a limb here, but were you trying to be funny?
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      02-24-2012 01:26 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by EUROTHRASH View Post
      Now I'm going out on a limb here, but were you trying to be funny?
      You know how if you edit your response soon enough after you make a post it shows up without the little italicized "edited at: 97865893425" thingy? That's what he did. The first time I refreshed this thread after he made that post it just said "good joke "

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      02-24-2012 12:57 AM #14
      Try asking your local shops, or friends..........these douche loungers in here only talk miatas and hyundai's!
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      02-24-2012 12:59 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Vamped View Post
      Try asking your local shops, or friends..........these douche loungers in here only talk miatas and hyundai's!
      Your troll-dar is broke.
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      02-24-2012 01:22 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Noisyninja View Post
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      Quote Originally Posted by das internet View Post
      I am kind of disappointed here. the guy posts the jay-z pic and now I'm guaranteed to not get any legitimate responses. yeah, I get it, that engine has jay-z's rap handle in its name it's like a play on words. maybe because my original post was just posting pictures with no effort to show any enthusiast cred, so it's my fault, I brought this on myself, what's done is done. Make no mistake to those who are reading, this is a serious question, I merely wanted to see what would be considered a ballpark fair price.
      I used a bel-air and a small block in my example in order to provide for the efficacy since I wanted to control for any of the complications that always arise when doing swaps on more modern cars. Perhaps someone has experience with such a swap, and, because it's relatively simple, someone has experience having it done on the cheap. However it is clear that I have erred in my judgment in asking this car forum for information on cars.
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    17. 02-24-2012 01:32 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Vamped View Post



      Sucks man, good luck with your build!
      thanks.

      Quote Originally Posted by EUROTHRASH View Post
      Now I'm going out on a limb here, but were you trying to be funny?
      was he?


      Quote Originally Posted by BattleRabbit View Post
      Is there any reason you couldn't have said "I want to swap X-model of crate motor into Y-model of car. Including all the necessary ancilliary parts, approximately what should this cost? My budget is Z-dollars. Can I do this within budget?"

      Instead you post two pictures. If you wanted serious responses you would have put more effort into your original post. You came here asking for BS, and you got it.

      I don't know the rules as well as you do, battlerabbit. There are plenty of message board on the internet where you can ask a simple question without having to prove that you are worthy to have a question answered, perhaps by someone with real-world experience instead of just the same regulars who post in every thread regardless of whether it's relevant to them. I am aware of the error in my ways and am rectifying this issue by asking people who don't post on message boards for all my car advice going forward.
      However perhaps there is a reason that there are no threads already existing on this matter. The knowledge base isn't there with this board. You only see build threads made by non-regulars.

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      02-24-2012 01:39 AM #18
      I had a '69 Impala a long few months ago, and I swapped a 350/350 in there for about $750. Do your own research or you'll just look like a dumbass when you come here asking simple/vague questions such as this.

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      02-24-2012 01:42 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by das internet View Post
      I don't know the rules as well as you do, battlerabbit. There are plenty of message board on the internet where you can ask a simple question without having to prove that you are worthy to have a question answered, perhaps by someone with real-world experience instead of just the same regulars who post in every thread regardless of whether it's relevant to them. I am aware of the error in my ways and am rectifying this issue by asking people who don't post on message boards for all my car advice going forward.
      However perhaps there is a reason that there are no threads already existing on this matter. The knowledge base isn't there with this board. You only see build threads made by non-regulars.

      These aren't rules. If you walked into a shop would you just say "how much would it cost to swap a crate 350 into an old car?" You'd give them details. You didn't even tell us if the "classic car" in your original post was indicative of the car you wanted to use, or if you wanted us to assume that it was what sort of engine it started with. These aren't rules, they're courtesies. If you wanted us to extend to you the courtesy of a good answer, then you should have extended the courtesy of a good question. It's not a matter of proving enthusiast cred, it's a matter of being a reasonable human being.

      You didn't do that, and you're wondering why we're treating your thread as a joke. You posted something laughable. We're having a good time laughing at it.

      Now, I'll be reasonable, just to humor you. The cost of the crate motor really depends on what you want. There are a ton of options when it comes to crate motors. Are you looking for a fresh motor with similar power to what your car(I'll assume the Impala at the top) would have come with stock? Are you looking for something that puts down 400 horsepower at the crank? That sort of thing dictates the cost of the crate motor. As for the labor, it depends on the labor rate at the shop you choose. I'd BUDGET for 40 hours of labor(I'm not saying it'll take nearly that long). Take their cost, multiply it by 40, and wha-bam! You have your labor cost. If the car is going from a 283 to a crate 350, it's not a lengthy swap. It's better to over estimate than underestimate on the labor. The worst thing that will happen is you'll be left with spare money at the end, and the shop won't hold on to your car.
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    20. 02-24-2012 01:20 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Vamped View Post
      Try asking your local shops, or friends..........these douche loungers in here only talk miatas and hyundai's!
      I am kind of disappointed here. the guy posts the jay-z pic and now I'm guaranteed to not get any legitimate responses. yeah, I get it, that engine has jay-z's rap handle in its name it's like a play on words. maybe because my original post was just posting pictures with no effort to show any enthusiast cred, so it's my fault, I brought this on myself, what's done is done. Make no mistake to those who are reading, this is a serious question, I merely wanted to see what would be considered a ballpark fair price.
      I used a bel-air and a small block in my example in order to provide for the efficacy since I wanted to control for any of the complications that always arise when doing swaps on more modern cars. Perhaps someone has experience with such a swap, and, because it's relatively simple, someone has experience having it done on the cheap. However it is clear that I have erred in my judgment in asking this car forum for information on cars.

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      02-24-2012 01:22 AM #21
      What engine, what car?

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      02-24-2012 01:23 AM #22
      Is there any reason you couldn't have said "I want to swap X-model of crate motor into Y-model of car. Including all the necessary ancilliary parts, approximately what should this cost? My budget is Z-dollars. Can I do this within budget?"

      Instead you post two pictures. If you wanted serious responses you would have put more effort into your original post. You came here asking for BS, and you got it.
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      02-24-2012 01:25 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by BattleRabbit View Post
      Is there any reason you couldn't have said "I want to swap X-model of crate motor into Y-model of car. Including all the necessary ancilliary parts, approximately what should this cost? My budget is Z-dollars. Can I do this within budget?"

      Instead you post two pictures. If you wanted serious responses you would have put more effort into your original post. You came here asking for BS, and you got it.
      Yep.

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      02-24-2012 02:17 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by BattleRabbit View Post
      Well, I'm going to assume that the classic car you want to use is a Borgward Isabella, and you want to drop the engine out of a Ferrari 458 into it.

      If you budget for all the fabrication, the custom transmission, rear axle, and suspension... It should run you about tree fiddy.


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      02-24-2012 03:45 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by 16v_43v3r View Post
      If you have to pay a shop to put a small block Chevy into a Chevy car.

      Stop. Just stop.
      simple swap. Just show up in short shorts and wear lip stick.
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