mk4 12v kinetic vrt

[CTdubbin7]

I need a 3" downpipe for my stage 3 kinetic vrt. What is a decent option? I've seen atp downpipes but they say they are only compatible with the atp exhaust mani.Haven't really seen any other options other than the atp 3" dp for the mk4.

[TBT-Syncro]

have you contacted CTS?

[CTdubbin7]

No I will though. By the way, my 6262 will be going on my vr soon. I Have cams,and will have a 3'' dp to a 3" exhaust,and a shortrunner. The rest is the kinetic stage 3 kit plus the 6262. What kind of power can i expect from a 6262 t3 .82? I'm hoping to be able to run close to 20psi with a new tune and possibly water/meth. Just haven't really been able to find any other dyno #'s for this turbo on a vr. (Searched on google and read the whole custom vrt set up thread)If anybody has a rough guestimate that would be great.

[PjS860ct]

Lets put it on my friends dyno when you finish her up... but I'll guess roughly 400... and yes cts offers a 3" dp for the kinetic kit...

[CTdubbin7]

awesome! Sounds like a plan to me. Thanks for answering all of my probably dumb questions . I went onto cts turbo and there wasn't a 3" for the mk4 on the website. But I'll give them a call tomorrow and place an order. 400hp would be great thats exactly what I'm hoping for.

[PjS860ct]

i just checked cts website and they have the 3" dp for a mk3 vrt... im not sure if it will fit on a mk4 but i think it should as there isnt really any difference between the mk3 and mk4 vrt kits... but call and ask anyways

[TBT-Syncro]

i just checked cts website and they have the 3" dp for a mk3 vrt... im not sure if it will fit on a mk4 but i think it should as there isnt really any difference between the mk3 and mk4 vrt kits... but call and ask anyways

dog-bone issue perhaps

[24vGTiVR6]

just call CTS / Kinetic / PDR Diesel they can get you the 3" for mk4

[V-dubbulyuh]

i just checked cts website and they have the 3" dp for a mk3 vrt... im not sure if it will fit on a mk4 but i think it should as there isnt really any difference between the mk3 and mk4 vrt kits... but call and ask anyways

The turbo orientation is completely different between Mk3 & Mk4 if you are using the Kinetic manifold, (ie side of turbine discharge/downpipe connection: Mk3-driver/Mk4-pass). For a long time Kinetic did not offer a Mk4 compatible 3" downpipe, maybe that has changed by now. I have always gone custom downpipe for 3 or larger on a Mk4.

[all_individual]

The turbo orientation is completely different between Mk3 & Mk4 if you are using the Kinetic manifold, (ie side of turbine discharge/downpipe connection: Mk3-driver/Mk4-pass). For a long time Kinetic did not offer a Mk4 compatible 3" downpipe, maybe that has changed by now. I have always gone custom downpipe for 3 or larger on a Mk4.

I recently asked if they made one for a 24V Mk4 but they did not. I think they've only got the Mk3 T3 and T4 available right now.

[V-dubbulyuh]

I recently asked if they made one for a 24V Mk4 but they did not. I think they've only got the Mk3 T3 and T4 available right now.

Custom is the way to go if you have the means.

I've not seen a mass produced 3" downpipe for Kinetic 12V Mk4 setups but then again I have not looked for one within the past 3-4 yrs.

[CTdubbin7]

thanks guys,going to have a custom 3" dp made.

[PjS860ct]

who is making it and how much?

[CTdubbin7]

haven't gotten that far yet haha

[24vGTiVR6]

I have a 3" v-band dp from kinetic, but it's 24v

although it would pretty much be the same no? (with the kinetic exhaust manifold anyway)

[CTdubbin7]

I brought the car to a shop and they can't get a 3" downpipe to fit because of space with the mk4 kinetics manifold. It drops down too far which would explain why one isn't sold. I'm hoping I can buy a used atp exhaust mani and a 3"dp and then not have to have them fab one. But there were a bunch of other issues as well.

[Soundwave_vr6]

had a custom one made for mine, does fit


find a new shop

and 2.5" to 3" woke my car up, then i sold it :|

here the thread http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...quot-to-3-quot

[PjS860ct]

where did you bring your car?

can you post a couple of pics of your engine bay?

[CTdubbin7]

excelerate in branford. I'll check to see if I have any.

[CTdubbin7]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

that is one from facebook I don't know if that will work though

edit: it works but you might have to add me

[PjS860ct]

bring it to HOAP... 123 Union City Road, Prospect (203 768 9351)... tell them I sent you...

they are friends of mine over there and mostly do custom hondas but the owner Gaz is a VW guy

i can be there tomorrow if you want to stop by and tell them what you want to do...

[CTdubbin7]

wow that'd be awesome man I appreciate it,I have work at noon tomorrow though,and the car is all the way in branford right now (I'm an hour 10 away from there and I have work at 5pm today and no ride there haha) I would probably be able to do it early next week though.

[PjS860ct]

well whenever you can get the car and want to bring it there just let me know... it shouldnt be that hard or take long to make that dp for your car... well as long as the lifts are empty...

[CTdubbin7]

awesome!

[V-dubbulyuh]

I brought the car to a shop and they can't get a 3" downpipe to fit because of space with the mk4 kinetics manifold. It drops down too far which would explain why one isn't sold.

That is pretty poor on the shop's behalf, even 3.5" on a Mk4 is a relatively easy fit.

I will try to post a pic later.

[PjS860ct]

Talked to my friend and he said to bring the car down to the shop so he can take a look on what can be done...

[CTdubbin7]

awesome I have off tuesday and wednesday so I'll definitely bring it down.

edit- going to pick up my car in Branford tomorrow. Gonna bring the car to HOAP on wednesday.

[CTdubbin7]

That is pretty poor on the shop's behalf, even 3.5" on a Mk4 is a relatively easy fit.

I will try to post a pic later.

well with the mk4 kinetic kit,the compressor and turbo face the opposite way of almost every other kit. That is what they are saying is the problem. But if the guy a few posts up got a 3" dp made for it then it obviously can be done. The shop now wants to charge me half an hour labor too for putting it on the lift and checking it out

[PjS860ct]

Wow that is gay! Get ur car out of there asap!

[CTdubbin7]

Wow that is gay! Get ur car out of there asap!

pickin her up tomorrow,then I'll bring it to HOAP on wednesday. I'm gonna give him a call tomorrow.

[V-dubbulyuh]

well with the mk4 kinetic kit,the compressor and turbo face the opposite way of almost every other kit. That is what they are saying is the problem. But if the guy a few posts up got a 3" dp made for it then it obviously can be done. The shop now wants to charge me half an hour labor too for putting it on the lift and checking it out

Yep, very familiar with the Kinetic manifold and Mk4's. I also know that 3.5" can fit on that car no problem. ALL of my cars have a/c and the other accessories so it really is no issue. Get a proper fabricator.

[mike minnillo]

when you say faces opposite, which way are you talking about? does the compressor face the drivers or passengers side?

[CTdubbin7]

Yep, very familiar with the Kinetic manifold and Mk4's. I also know that 3.5" can fit on that car no problem. ALL of my cars have a/c and the other accessories so it really is no issue. Get a proper fabricator.

Wasn't saying you were wrong at all just saying what they told me the problem was. And to the guy directly above me the compressor faces the drivers side. If I was less of an easy going guy I would have a few bad things to say about this shop and I'm going to leave it at that.

EDIT- I'm an idiot v-dubbulyuh just reread the thread and see that you already mentioned how the compressor is facing the other way on the mk4 kinetic as opposed to the mk3

[V-dubbulyuh]

The main issue is replicating the Kinetic style DP (the 180 deg off the turbine). As your diameter goes up from 2.5" that loop becomes to bulbous and pushed the DP outwards to the passenger side. There are a few ways around this; tighten up on the bend radius coming off the turbine (ie have your 180 deg sit closer to the turbo than Kinetic did on their 2.5" or you can come off the turbine at 90 deg then make subsequent bends to get the DP out towards the tunnel.

[gti vr6er]

Well, I'm bringing this back up to see what the OP finally ended up doing. I myself am in dire need of a 3" dp for my mk4 vrt.

Op, did you end up getting one made that fit? If so, how much did he end up charging? I'd be willing to give him more business and pay for one + shipping if he'd be willing to make another one. If he needs yours as a reference, I'd be more than happy to pay you a bit for your time and troubles. My problem is finding one that's been made and fits...the rest should be easy as it can be replicated. Tbh, if I get one made ill prob just go ahead and have him make a few more to sell and share with fellow vrt owners(not to profit...just to help a person like you and I out). Or better yet, if you can tell me how the 3" differed from the 2.5" dp, I can have them just use my 2.5 as a reference but make those specific changes to the new one. I just don't understand how there isn't 3's for mk4's on the market...people do it which means it CAN be done but no one wants to mass produce the product.

Anyhow, sorry for the long ass post. I'm just desperately in need of a 3" for my stage 3 kinetic.

TIA