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    Thread: car will not crank or turn over

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      02-26-2012 03:36 PM #1
      I have a 97 jetta 2.0. I went to start the car and when i turn the key, it tried to start like normal but then stopped. I was thinking the battery was dead so i hooked it up to my friends truck and jump started it. When i tried to turn the key nothing happened. It does not click like its a bad starter motor, and i checked all of my grounds. The timing is perfect on the fly wheel cam and distributor. i checked all sensors and visible wires. Could the ecu be bad? Could i have a loose connection to the clutch safety switched? Ignition switch? Im stumped.

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      02-26-2012 03:42 PM #2
      i would lean towards ignition switch..

      most VWs, you dont even have to depress the clutch to start them..

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      02-26-2012 05:31 PM #3
      1997 should have a clutch switch I think.

      Test the battery with a load tester. Did you verify the jumper cable connection when you hooked them up? Make sure the alarm isn't cutting off the starter?

      If you've got power on that starter signal wire (small wire) while the key is in the crank position, and battery voltage on the big wire to the starter, the starter is bad. If no 12v at the signal wire while cranking, time to get out the wiring diagram and diagnose the circuit.
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      02-26-2012 05:33 PM #4
      yea i had the jumpers connected right. Im confused because 5% of the time when you turn the key the starter will fire and the other times it does nothing

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      02-26-2012 05:40 PM #5
      When it does nothing, do you have ~12v on the small wire at the starter with the key in the crank position?
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      02-26-2012 06:16 PM #6
      i havnt gotten a chance to hook a volt meter up to it. I have to borrow one from my friend and he is at work. I will probably do that tomorrow. What should i be looking for if i do or do not get the 12v

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      02-26-2012 07:27 PM #7
      If you have 12v, starter is bad. If not, get out the wiring diagram and figure out where the circuit is broken.
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      03-01-2012 02:03 PM #8
      i tested the voltage and got 12v. I replaced the starter motor today and it is still not even cranking. Igot 12v when i had someone turn the key while i used the meter. Any other ideas?

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      03-01-2012 09:00 PM #9
      You should have 12v on the big wire to the starter at all times, 12v on the small wire to the starter while the key is being held in the crank position, and ground on the starter body, where it bolts to the transmission.

      If all those factors are present, the only possible explanation is a bad starter. You've either got a bad reman'd starter out of the box (which is definitely not unheard of), or you skipped a diagnostic step.
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      03-04-2014 02:00 PM #10
      I have the exact same problem with my '99 Jetta. Replaced the starter, still didn't start. Removed the new starter and had it checked, starter is good. I'm planning to get the battery checked even though it is two years old. After that, I will check the battery to starter cable and the starter to alternator cable and replace as required. If that doesn't work, I'll concentrate on the grounds.

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      03-08-2014 05:09 PM #11
      Update::::

      Changed both battery cables: 1- battery to starter (positive); and the battery to engine ground. the car running like a champ.

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