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    Thread: Coilover VS Lowering Springs?

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      09-12-2012 09:17 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by noeffectx View Post
      I'm thinking of slightly lowering my 2012 GLI Autobahn, at least 1 inch to 1.5, no more than that.

      This is just for looks, no racing! This is my daily driver car and I drive at least 30 miles on highway everyday to work, I also work in NYC (manhattan at least 3x a month), lots of pot holes.

      On weekends take the family and dog for a spin Again I have no intent of racing or going to race track.


      Which is better for my intent of use and functionality? Coilover or lowering springs?

      Thanks
      Go with a coilover setup -- adjustable for the off season (winter) and far more reliable.

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      09-12-2012 09:59 AM #27
      I know this is a GLI thread.. But for those of you on H&R springs, what struts are you on for the 2.5?

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      09-12-2012 10:00 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by SimpleStaple View Post
      . . .far more reliable.
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      09-12-2012 10:19 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Clyde Smith View Post
      From the standpoint in which springs tend to wear the OE struts out quicker, you're better off buying a set of coils and just 'lowering' the right way, IMO.

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      09-12-2012 10:25 AM #30
      Ah, I thought that's what you were getting at
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      09-12-2012 10:27 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Clyde Smith View Post
      Ah, I thought that's what you were getting at
      Yessums!

      I just saw the troll-ness illuminating in your eyes.

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      09-12-2012 10:28 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Rigby
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      09-12-2012 10:34 AM #33
      If you want a comfortable ride with a little drop and you do not want to spend big $$ get springs. Recommend H&R but many different options out there. Closest to OEM ride quality.

      While technically extra travel on a shock will put extra strain on the valve body, it will not "wear out faster" by any appreciable / noticeable amount. We're talking 2-5k mileage difference over the life of the car traveling an extra 1-1.5" you'll get from a decent spring drop.

      Do NOT buy cheap coils. Around $800 for decent coils (ST IMHO are best bang for buck). Cheap coils are cheap because the valve bodies are junk and will ride like a truck.

      These opinions/recommendations are made under the assumption that you're an adult and this is your daily driver and you value your ride quality, not what scene kids think.

      Otherwise buy some racelands and go nuts

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      09-12-2012 10:35 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by TheEvilEmpire View Post
      Do NOT buy cheap coils. Around $800 for decent coils (ST IMHO are best bang for buck). Cheap coils are cheap because the valve bodies are junk and will ride like a truck.

      These opinions/recommendations are made under the assumption that you're an adult and this is your daily driver and you value your ride quality, not what scene kids think.

      Otherwise buy some racelands and go nuts



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      09-12-2012 01:54 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by TheEvilEmpire View Post
      If you want a comfortable ride with a little drop and you do not want to spend big $$ get springs. Recommend H&R but many different options out there. Closest to OEM ride quality.

      While technically extra travel on a shock will put extra strain on the valve body, it will not "wear out faster" by any appreciable / noticeable amount. We're talking 2-5k mileage difference over the life of the car traveling an extra 1-1.5" you'll get from a decent spring drop.

      Do NOT buy cheap coils. Around $800 for decent coils (ST IMHO are best bang for buck). Cheap coils are cheap because the valve bodies are junk and will ride like a truck.

      These opinions/recommendations are made under the assumption that you're an adult and this is your daily driver and you value your ride quality, not what scene kids think.

      Otherwise buy some racelands and go nuts
      This.

      I have put springs (H&R and Eibach) on several cars and not one has worn out the struts prematurely and ride is close to OEM, generally just a hair stiffer.

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      09-12-2012 01:59 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by TheEvilEmpire View Post
      If you want a comfortable ride with a little drop and you do not want to spend big $$ get springs. Recommend H&R but many different options out there. Closest to OEM ride quality.

      While technically extra travel on a shock will put extra strain on the valve body, it will not "wear out faster" by any appreciable / noticeable amount. We're talking 2-5k mileage difference over the life of the car traveling an extra 1-1.5" you'll get from a decent spring drop.

      Do NOT buy cheap coils. Around $800 for decent coils (ST IMHO are best bang for buck). Cheap coils are cheap because the valve bodies are junk and will ride like a truck.

      These opinions/recommendations are made under the assumption that you're an adult and this is your daily driver and you value your ride quality, not what scene kids think.

      Otherwise buy some racelands and go nuts

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      10-05-2012 08:03 PM #37
      where can i get these fog lights ? and this is only 1.5 drop from factory settings?

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      10-07-2012 08:46 PM #38
      I just put 18'' wheels on my car and decided I need to lower it maybe an inch. Definitely cannot afford coils after what I paid for wheels/tires. Therefore, I decided to go with springs. Anyone know what's the best bang for the buck? I hear H&R are good one's? I have a 2012 Jetta TDI.

    14. 10-07-2012 10:59 PM #39
      The STs ride great and are a great deal. PM me for a deal on the STs.
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      10-07-2012 11:12 PM #40
      DO NOT GET COILOVERS unless you are planning on corner-balancing them!

      Your ride will never be the same if you do not corner-balance them.

      Our car; all cars are designed to be balanced from front to back and from right to left. We can change those balances, but only in measured terms. Don't believe me...find your largest friend and zip around with him/her in the rear right, and rear left, then in the front pass and you will see exactly what I mean.

      Springs are designed to mimic your car's weight distribution, or slightly better it.

      A solid corner-balanced coil-over setup will sharpen your car's balance even more.

      It's relatively inexpensive and worth every penny. Anybody that tells you it is not worth it has not ridden on a corner-balanced setup.

      My$.02 for you? Get a set of progressive springs and be done with it. If I recall, you have a GLI. The suspension is already made to run lower from the factory. If you are planning on lowering it the range you speak of, the OEM shocks will suffice. You may lose 1/5 of their life, but you can always buy something new then; we're talking at least 50K miles or so away.

      Happy dubbin'.

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      10-08-2012 12:10 AM #41
      Thanks for your response. So I'm going with springs. What's a good brand?

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      10-08-2012 11:24 AM #42
      Eibach is the easy way to go, but you may find the drop not enough for your needs. Ask others what progressive springs they have used and liked or find a good vendor or two and ask them.

      What is a progressive spring?

      It is a spring that has a higher spring rate (firmer) but the final few coils on the top and bottom have a lower spring rate (softer). That will give you a near factory ride quality until you push it harder, then it will firm up.

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      10-09-2012 04:46 PM #43
      So I called around to see how much it would cost to put on springs for my TDI..... $720+ tax. Is that high?

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      10-09-2012 04:53 PM #44
      That's a ridiculous price.
      Springs on these cars (IRS or twist beam) with an alignment should run $300-$400 or so, depending on the shop/dealership.
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      10-09-2012 04:55 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by Clyde Smith View Post
      That's a ridiculous price.
      Springs on these cars (IRS or twist beam) with an alignment should run $300-$400 or so, depending on the shop/dealership.
      I thought so too. They told me they that it would take 5.5 hours and that they would need to do an alignment afterwards. No way it could cost around $800?

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      10-09-2012 05:04 PM #46
      It takes 2 hours at most, so a fair labor charge would be 3-3.5 hours.
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      10-09-2012 05:49 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by Clyde Smith View Post
      It takes 2 hours at most, so a fair labor charge would be 3-3.5 hours.
      + 1 hour for alignment
      my car

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      10-09-2012 06:18 PM #48
      ^ Yup
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      10-09-2012 08:59 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by noeffectx View Post
      I'm thinking of slightly lowering my 2012 GLI Autobahn, at least 1 inch to 1.5, no more than that.

      This is just for looks, no racing! This is my daily driver car and I drive at least 30 miles on highway everyday to work, I also work in NYC (manhattan at least 3x a month), lots of pot holes.

      On weekends take the family and dog for a spin Again I have no intent of racing or going to race track.


      Which is better for my intent of use and functionality? Coilover or lowering springs?

      Thanks
      COILS ALL THE WAY. I just had KW V3's installed on my GLI '12 Bahn and they are AMAZING! Of course they were a little pricey but they are fully adjustable. Damping and Height. Also, they greatly improve ride quality, tighten up the steering, reduce pitch and roll, etc....

      I recommend coils.

    25. 10-09-2012 09:14 PM #50
      The V3s are also rebound adjustable
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