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    03-05-2012 05:33 PM #36
    the block was sent off to get honed and cleaned today, should be back next week and we can start assembly!

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    03-06-2012 09:22 PM #37
    IM shaft is off to be lightened and balanced along with a gasket to make a fancy flange for a 3L big turbo diesel benz project.


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    03-06-2012 10:02 PM #38
    What's safety?

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    03-06-2012 10:23 PM #39
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    03-06-2012 10:37 PM #40
    definitly digging the 20\20. Sound clips are a must.
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    03-07-2012 02:14 AM #41
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    03-07-2012 02:45 AM #42
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    SAFTEY THIRD!
    hehe, only in NH.
    How does a rotary work? This one's easy: the magic triangle spins in the peanut and then apex seals come out.

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    03-07-2012 08:28 AM #43
    Quote Originally Posted by vento86 View Post
    What's safety?
    valid point haha

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    03-07-2012 08:35 AM #44
    Here is a shot of the header. simple and it works!
    20111030-P1010406

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    03-09-2012 12:51 PM #45
    IM shaft is here and it looks gorgeous thanks to jarod@SCCH
    also the block has been re-honed, washed and wire brushed. assembly will start next week as soon as the chassis and wiring is sorted out!

    Its getting closer to running again!

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    03-09-2012 12:55 PM #46
    Header looks good.

  12. 03-09-2012 12:56 PM #47
    Quote Originally Posted by simon_c View Post
    hehe, only in nh.
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    03-09-2012 02:38 PM #48
    Quote Originally Posted by OLD-GTI View Post
    live free or die!!!!
    not to derail the thread, but the scene here is somethin' else. some weird and cool isht comes out of this state.
    How does a rotary work? This one's easy: the magic triangle spins in the peanut and then apex seals come out.

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    03-09-2012 02:44 PM #49
    i miss the east coast :|

    but not enough to move back lol


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  15. 03-09-2012 03:03 PM #50
    Quote Originally Posted by simon_C View Post
    not to derail the thread, but the scene here is somethin' else. some weird and cool isht comes out of this state.
    oh I know...I'm a massh0le...I see it all.
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  16. 03-09-2012 03:09 PM #51
    That is one hell of an engine Good luck breaking 200
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  17. 03-09-2012 09:36 PM #52
    Quote Originally Posted by GLIguy85 View Post
    Here is a shot of the header. simple and it works!
    20111030-P1010406
    just a question here. whynot ceramic coat that header instead of wrapping it?
    A Dutty Dub

  18. 03-09-2012 09:49 PM #53
    watching this project. love NA stuff.
    A Dutty Dub

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    03-10-2012 01:23 AM #55
    Quote Originally Posted by gtidaddy View Post
    just a question here. whynot ceramic coat that header instead of wrapping it?
    I dunno, cost maybe?
    How does a rotary work? This one's easy: the magic triangle spins in the peanut and then apex seals come out.

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    03-10-2012 10:07 AM #56
    cost to benefit. maybe down the road i will ceramic coat the header but for now, the wrap will do just fine

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    03-10-2012 01:33 PM #57
    Quote Originally Posted by GLIguy85 View Post
    i have tried in the past to find more info on that build with no luck. i do know that it is also a 1.8l so i shouldn't be too far off the 200whp mark. its going to come down to tuning
    What information are you looking for? We have 6 of those F3 motors here.
    • 06A Block
    • 14:1 CR 8V pistons
    • 92.8mm stroke crankshaft
    • Solid lifter cylinder head with 42mm intake & 36mm exhaust

    Not 200whp but close.
    Quote Originally Posted by GLIguy85 View Post
    Jarod, you are the man.
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    Crank looks really good but are you not worried it will bend under that CR?

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    03-10-2012 06:03 PM #58
    why would it bend? or how? the crank is balanced and its still fairly meaty. it only has 6.5lb or something like that taken off.

    and the information i was looking for was on eurosports 20v carb build. last year when i first built this motor i couldn't find anything on it

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    03-10-2012 06:17 PM #59
    todays progress..

    20120310-P1010495

    oil cooler...
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    IM shaft by jarod@SCCH
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    the block all nice and painted
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    03-10-2012 10:36 PM #60
    Quote Originally Posted by GLIguy85 View Post
    I will go broke reaching that goal, but i will be broke and happy


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    03-10-2012 10:52 PM #61
    Quote Originally Posted by GLIguy85 View Post
    why would it bend? or how? the crank is balanced and its still fairly meaty. it only has 6.5lb or something like that taken off.
    The 2 knife edged ABA cranks we used in stroker AEB builds were 0.004" out of wack . Thats why I stopped using knife edged crankshafts.
    Maybe others can chime in but I have not read very much success stories where lightening cranks are concerned.

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    03-10-2012 11:02 PM #62
    watching and learning

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    03-11-2012 09:32 AM #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Issam Abed View Post
    The 2 knife edged ABA cranks we used in stroker AEB builds were 0.004" out of wack . Thats why I stopped using knife edged crankshafts.
    Maybe others can chime in but I have not read very much success stories where lightening cranks are concerned.
    do you think there was added stress to yours being that they were boosted? I personally have not heard any horror stories but i know that you are far more experienced in these matters. we will see how she does i guess

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    03-11-2012 10:09 AM #64
    Loving this.

    I've been gathering parts for something similar for a while now, just need to bite the bullet and start the build.
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  30. 03-11-2012 12:49 PM #65
    Quote Originally Posted by GLIguy85 View Post
    cost to benefit. maybe down the road i will ceramic coat the header but for now, the wrap will do just fine
    wasnot trying to bash just asking. on the fence with the same decision.
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  31. 03-11-2012 12:52 PM #66
    more pic please.
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    03-11-2012 05:10 PM #67
    more pics will come! got some fancy suspension bits today amongst other things.

    this week the engine will be assembled. then all that needs to be done is a bit of fab work and wiring

  33. 03-11-2012 10:45 PM #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Issam Abed View Post
    The 2 knife edged ABA cranks we used in stroker AEB builds were 0.004" out of wack . Thats why I stopped using knife edged crankshafts.
    Maybe others can chime in but I have not read very much success stories where lightening cranks are concerned.
    Hey Sam, Jarod here From SCCH you remember me. I would be interested in know the specific applications these cranks were used in,Also the .004" run out, Where exactly was this measurement take? snout to tail on the crank, one bearing?
    It would just be good to elaborate on some of these issues As I have done well over 60 cranks now some in NA application and some in Big turbo applications Making over 400WHP and have not gotten any negative feedback on them.
    Naturally you want to start with a good forged crank just like the one Kyle is going to use in his car but I am just interested in the specifics of the afor mentioned failures.
    ~Jarod.

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    03-12-2012 02:35 PM #69
    Quote Originally Posted by X K R O M X View Post
    Hey Sam, Jarod here From SCCH you remember me. I would be interested in know the specific applications these cranks were used in,Also the .004" run out, Where exactly was this measurement take? snout to tail on the crank, one bearing?
    It would just be good to elaborate on some of these issues As I have done well over 60 cranks now some in NA application and some in Big turbo applications Making over 400WHP and have not gotten any negative feedback on them.
    Naturally you want to start with a good forged crank just like the one Kyle is going to use in his car but I am just interested in the specifics of the afor mentioned failures.
    ~Jarod.
    Krom,
    How are you doing? The (2) Cranks were in stroked AEB motors so starting off with ABA cores to start. The measurement was taken flywheel hub to crankshaft snout so yes snout to tail. If you have had success with knife edging them then all the power to you. You know I have recommend your work in the past so once you can warranty it then there should be no issues.

  35. 03-12-2012 10:17 PM #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Issam Abed View Post
    Krom,
    How are you doing? The (2) Cranks were in stroked AEB motors so starting off with ABA cores to start. The measurement was taken flywheel hub to crankshaft snout so yes snout to tail. If you have had success with knife edging them then all the power to you. You know I have recommend your work in the past so once you can warranty it then there should be no issues.
    Sam I was more interested in the methodology in the measuring system on those bent cranks,.004" snout to tail is nothing if you are simply measuring off of the snout and to the tail as there are machining discrepancies and if it's on a Diameter were only talking .002 run out" .Normally If I thought there was the potential for a crank being bent,which is pretty rare on a forged unit unless I guess a main cap came off... I would set the crank up on pair of V blocks on the outer most main bearing journals then use an indicator down the line. It's an arduous task but sometime necessary.

    Either way you know the drill.
    Talk to you later.
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