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    06-18-2012 06:07 PM #211
    Quote Originally Posted by JUS_GT_EYEZ View Post
    4 weeks is a good goal to get all that done before the fun begins. Lots of stuff to do make a list and start crossing off.
    You don't remember having a new born. I was already wished the misfortune of having kids and attempting to progress with a project car.


    Quote Originally Posted by A1steaksauce View Post
    ha, yeah i called that one. 4-6 weeks is normal for that.

    looking forward to seeing mock up begin
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    06-18-2012 06:18 PM #212
    Quote Originally Posted by RafCarre12 View Post
    You don't remember having a new born. I was already wished the misfortune of having kids and attempting to progress with a project car.
    Quite to the contrary, I remember it well. She was prego when the project was started, and Los said kids would not get in the way. I am holding him to his misconceptions. $# needs a nursery in the garage so los can multitask.
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    06-20-2012 09:23 AM #213
    Quote Originally Posted by JUS_GT_EYEZ View Post
    Quite to the contrary, I remember it well. She was prego when the project was started, and Los said kids would not get in the way. I am holding him to his misconceptions. $# needs a nursery in the garage so los can multitask.
    Greasy bib!!!! FTW

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    06-20-2012 09:29 AM #214
    playpen in the garage
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    06-20-2012 10:46 AM #215
    Quote Originally Posted by Gear_Dog View Post
    playpen in the garage
    Im gonna have to find one of them changing stations that fold into the wall!

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    06-20-2012 12:52 PM #216
    We have the technology to build it.
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    06-20-2012 12:54 PM #217
    Quote Originally Posted by JUS_GT_EYEZ View Post
    We have the technology to build it.
    Its already built in my head like the bus!

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    06-20-2012 01:07 PM #218
    Quote Originally Posted by bansheelos View Post
    Its already built in my head like the bus!
    Same way you built the engine support, mocked up the suspension components, re-did the interior and do a full paint job?... in your head?

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    06-20-2012 01:08 PM #219
    Quote Originally Posted by RafCarre12 View Post
    Same way you built the engine support, mocked up the suspension components, re-did the interior and do a full paint job?... in your head?
    Im driving it as we speak!

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    06-28-2012 08:47 AM #220
    UPDATE Thanks to the help of Ivan, donor is cut up and ready for removal! The family went up to the Cod this morning so.... I have a good window for working on the bus!!! Cleaning up the bay some more then coating it! KBS ftw Hopefully I dont run into any issues. Raf stopped by last night and buffed out my door and gotta say it is night and day!!!! Pics to come!
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    06-28-2012 09:50 AM #221
    Way to go. the family away means lot of garage time
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    06-28-2012 01:24 PM #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Gear_Dog View Post
    Way to go. the family away means lot of garage time
    Gonna need a 6pk of coke and trying to pull an all nighhter if I could lol

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    06-28-2012 01:31 PM #223
    CHEESIN LIKE A MUH!!!!!!
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    06-28-2012 06:07 PM #224
    Quote Originally Posted by bansheelos View Post
    Gonna need a 6pk of coke and trying to pull an all nighhter if I could lol
    for you or the rust?

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    06-28-2012 11:50 PM #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Colombian Gringo View Post
    for you or the rust?
    Coke for me, kbs will rid the rust lol

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    06-29-2012 07:05 AM #226
    So I have to say 5 hrs later I am satisfied w/ kbs coatings!! Very impressed w/ the self leveling. Prepping was fairly easy. Everything dried pretty fast so I could not step away after I sprayed the contents on the bus. But it looks good and I cant be happier! Come on KEP plate lets go already!
    1st step AquaKlean!



    RustBlast!




    And the finished product RustSeal!







    The rest of the undercarriage will be done in parts b/c this was no joke lol

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    07-31-2012 09:09 AM #227
    UPDATE: *Reaching around and clearing away the cobwebs* I started to bring some of my accessories over to the warehouse to start cleaning and spraying, as I became more and more anxious on the arrival of the adapter plate.



    Also had to grind down my shaft to due its monstrosity length.


    Then BAM!!!! Sitting in Ivans house when I get the call that the plate has been shipped and it will arrive in a few days. Checking the tracking as everyday passed. Finally it came to my job!!! And thats when I started to get the VR into the bus for the mock up!!!



    And VOILA!!!! 2 times a charm!





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    07-31-2012 03:31 PM #228
    looking good I'm glad you decided to start painting parts before putting it back in.
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    07-31-2012 06:50 PM #229
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  20. 07-31-2012 10:10 PM #230
    Quote Originally Posted by bansheelos View Post
    UPDATE
    this pic makes me very happy in the pants.

    oil pan and transmission are on the same plane. kick ass.

    how much room do you have above the motor? because honestly it would be stupid easy to raise that transmission to gain some additional clearance.

    your motor/trans are going to be your limiting factor in how low you're gonna be able to go. if you could get an additional inch of raise out of both of them you'd be in a great position to really lay this bus out like you want.


    in either case i'm glad to see progress on this beast

    now if someone could just direct me to the milf in the changing table photo pictured above i'd be all set
    my slammed baywindow bus build...a labor of love


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    the only time you will be done is the day before you sell it.

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    08-02-2012 08:26 AM #231
    Room above the motor was the first question in my head when I first saw the pics too. From what I saw it was only an inch or so.

    Good to see this bumped with progress. Keep it up Los.
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    08-02-2012 10:39 AM #232
    Yeah there is only less than an inch to raise the engine. I was thinking I might have to lower it a little to clear the throttle body. Also I have about 4" to play w/ to move the engine towards the rear as well. Not sure if messing around w/ this move that my axles will reach so Im trying to keep it as much of the trans in stock position as I possibly can. The crossmember is def going to have to come off b/c it conflicts w/ the thermostat housing. Mk4 thermostat isnt any smaller and the V5 one is the same as the mk4 so..... Just found someone who might be able to do the cradle for me. Things are looking up faster than I thought! We will see what happens this weekend!


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    08-04-2012 02:08 PM #234
    It should be after unveiling the finished product... It better be!

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    08-04-2012 03:51 PM #235
    Los

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    08-04-2012 10:26 PM #236
    Quote Originally Posted by PKstrategy View Post
    Los
    Pk what's good?

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    08-05-2012 12:02 AM #237
    Quote Originally Posted by bansheelos View Post
    Pk what's good?
    nada pai, the VR finally went back in mine last weekend.
    wiring next weekend....would love to have your knowledge on deck!

    this right here though, is on the next level of awesome. keep it up bro.

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    08-06-2012 06:57 PM #238
    Quote Originally Posted by PKstrategy View Post
    nada pai, the VR finally went back in mine last weekend.
    wiring next weekend....would love to have your knowledge on deck!

    this right here though, is on the next level of awesome. keep it up bro.
    Thanks fam, keep me posted on the wiring. Def help you out!

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    08-12-2012 08:25 PM #239
    Quote Originally Posted by bansheelos View Post
    Thanks fam, keep me posted on the wiring. Def help you out!
    no doubt.
    guess what? she lives!
    We started her today.
    So from now until before h20, wiring needs to be shortened/lengthened, etc.
    all the stuff I want to be deleted has been mostly identified and labeled.

    ok nuff chatter about my wiring and its woes, how goes this nutty build!?

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    08-22-2012 10:08 AM #240
    Quote Originally Posted by PKstrategy View Post
    no doubt.
    guess what? she lives!
    We started her today.
    So from now until before h20, wiring needs to be shortened/lengthened, etc.
    all the stuff I want to be deleted has been mostly identified and labeled.

    ok nuff chatter about my wiring and its woes, how goes this nutty build!?
    Sweet! Like you said nutty lol Just did some mock ups for the rear engine bar. Gonna see if I can make this bad boy work! Just worried about the weight of the engine.

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    08-22-2012 10:52 AM #241
    I didn't read back through the thread, but what are your plans for suspension?
    Assumed you'd need something with really good spring rates to hold up that heavy VR.

  31. 08-22-2012 05:48 PM #242
    Quote Originally Posted by PKstrategy View Post
    I didn't read back through the thread, but what are your plans for suspension?
    Assumed you'd need something with really good spring rates to hold up that heavy VR.
    vw aircooled no uses spring suspension.



    Ban,

    here's what you'd be wise to invest in:

    http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=720

    personally i'd get the largest torsion bars they make for the rear of that bus


    and i'd take that cradle setup you got yourself there and make the connection/cross bar go under the motor instead of around it like you have it. would make it a much stronger configuration

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    08-22-2012 11:14 PM #243
    Quote Originally Posted by A1steaksauce View Post
    vw aircooled no uses spring suspension.



    Ban,

    here's what you'd be wise to invest in:

    http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=720

    personally i'd get the largest torsion bars they make for the rear of that bus


    and i'd take that cradle setup you got yourself there and make the connection/cross bar go under the motor instead of around it like you have it. would make it a much stronger configuration
    This was my initial thought

    Structurally sound, yes. It sticks down pretty far under the pan. Thats why I was looking into the other option and running a bar along the rear of the frame rails and put it up against where the trunk latches to so it would almost be a cradle to give it more support and more clearance to lower it.

  33. 08-22-2012 11:29 PM #244
    you're hamstringing yourself by using the old motor mount location on the bus. if you were to relocate where you plan on attaching your cradle to the bus it would allow you to go with a setup based off your initial idea (second pic) that could still retain quite a bit of ground clearance. likewise if you went with say 3/16 wall or 1/4 wall box tubing you could utilize a smaller od tube that would hang down less and still provide the required strength.

    and i know i'm beating a dead horse but...transmission raise. your biggest hinderance to going low is going to be your motor/trans setup and how low it's hanging. you raise your setup just an inch and it will allow you to go that much lower. that stupid cross brace above the trans is not necessary.


    personally, i love the second pic setup. this is a great way to go about it...tried, true, and proven. just use a smaller box tube that's thicker then get it much closer to the pan....you'd be golden with that setup
    Last edited by A1steaksauce; 08-23-2012 at 11:11 AM.

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    08-24-2012 08:48 AM #245
    Quote Originally Posted by A1steaksauce View Post

    personally, i love the second pic setup. this is a great way to go about it...tried, true, and proven. just use a smaller box tube that's thicker then get it much closer to the pan....you'd be golden with that setup
    I was looking to run 1x2 box tubing. Not sure what size gauge would be sufficient to use.

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