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    Thread: AEB w/ O2J Problem

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      03-01-2012 09:48 PM #1
      So I am almost completly done with my build. As I was installing the axles back into my 85 Cabriolet. I noticed that with the transmission in neutral I could spin the axles like it should. So I put the transmission in first and still the axles spun like in neutral. Im really disapointed cuz this has been a long project and Im almost done, but its like the engine is not engaging with the transmission at all???? In gear it should have the compression of the engine to turn over also..... Its an AEB engine, O2J trans, 1.8t flywheel, VR6 clutch and pressure plate... Any ideas what is going on??? Thinking back on it,.... I dont know ... Please help or any suggestions on what this could be?? Thanks
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      03-02-2012 08:48 AM #2
      I had the transmission rebuilt by a shop when they installed the LSD. This has to be a transmission issue? Right?? When I say I put the trams in first! I turned the shifting weight towards the front of the car! Changing gears! I can hear the gears move in side the trans. But shouldn't it be engaged with the engine now???

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      03-02-2012 07:20 PM #3
      It's kinda of hard to follow what your saying, but if the car is on jack stands with the front wheels in the air, and your engine is all buttoned up(Timing belt and spark plugs installed) it would be difficult to spin the wheels in 1st gear by hand. Perhaps your not fully engaging 1st gear since your just shifting it by moving the weight, try to stick it in 4th or better yet push down and engage reverse.
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      03-02-2012 10:11 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by Ultraflux3 View Post
      It's kinda of hard to follow what your saying, but if the car is on jack stands with the front wheels in the air, and your engine is all buttoned up(Timing belt and spark plugs installed) it would be difficult to spin the wheels in 1st gear by hand. Perhaps your not fully engaging 1st gear since your just shifting it by moving the weight, try to stick it in 4th or better yet push down and engage reverse.
      Yes the car is on jack stands and everything is buttoned up. I agree I should not be able to spin the axels in first. It feels like it fully engages in gear but I will try reverse too. Thanks for the responce.

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      03-04-2012 09:45 PM #5
      OK well putting it in reverse worked. I tightened up the axles and everything is almost good. I finished everything and it was time to start the engine for the first time. When I went to start the engine the starter just clicked??? My battery is 12.5 Volts and everything else works.. I have been reading some threads and I think maybe my spacing is off???? I didnt use the dust shield that goes inbetween the trans and engine also I just bolted the flywheel up to the crank with no shims??? Do you think this is my problem????

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      03-06-2012 11:38 AM #6
      I was under the impression that the dual mass AEB flywheel would not work with an 02j...can someone confirm/deny?
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      03-06-2012 02:12 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by ABAinA1 View Post
      I was under the impression that the dual mass AEB flywheel would not work with an 02j...can someone confirm/deny?
      There different in the crank in aeb engine, one is for auto, and one for manaul. If you have auto aeb, it may interfere with transmission output shaft. I think lacks a bushing, where the manual crankshaft has bushing in it. You have match diameter flywheel to the clutch disc size too. Most vr6 are 228mm, so you need 228mm flywheel too.

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      03-06-2012 03:27 PM #8
      Your starter or battery is prob shot. The spacers or shims will not make a difference. You need a 4cyl 02a/j flywheel. Aeb stuff will not work. The auto/manual crank stuff only matters in longitudinal configurations

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      03-06-2012 09:28 PM #9
      Ok so I finally got a chance to take the starter out and find the problem. I tried bench testing the starter, which I have never done before. While doing this the starter did nothing. This lead me to think I have no ground Well I painted the transmission and the starter before installing them and came to the conclusion that I have a Shi**y ground due to my awsome paint job. Well I sanded off all the paint where the two touch and Wallaaaaa It turned over the engine perfectly!!!! So thats what my problem was I painted the starter and trans and had no ground for the starter. I want to thank everyone for there reponces and all the ideas and help.. This site have been great and I have learned a lot reading posts here.. Sometimes its the small things that we miss.

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      04-25-2012 04:30 AM #10
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      04-25-2012 07:37 AM #11
      really tired of this reference to AEB, all AEB means is a head designation nothing to do with the block or the trans.

      You have a 02J bolted to a 058 or 06A block?
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      04-25-2012 04:12 PM #12
      didn't the AEB only come on external H2O pump blocks? I'm just asking........

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      04-25-2012 10:18 PM #13
      Yes but their were other external water pump blocks (058) that were not AEB. And many people put AEB heads on internal water pump 06x blocks

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      04-25-2012 10:32 PM #14
      My block is an external water pump block 058. Its the original block that matches the AEB head.

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      04-25-2012 10:33 PM #15
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      04-25-2012 10:37 PM #16
      Here is some pics of my build. Its not done or perfected. Just trying to make it dependable and functionable then clean it up a bit.


















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      04-26-2012 01:06 AM #17
      correct, aeb is one of a handfull of early 058 engine designations. just happens to be the most popular.

      i prefer the 06a/b myself. internal pump,swapped to mechincal tensioner,wideband(most) and just much more plentiful.
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