Canon 5D MKIII

[71sbeetle]

As I said, good for you for getting that much for it. Here's one that just sold on POTN for $1450, shipped.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/....php?t=1167180

Looks like that body had it's fair share of use and abuse lol. The guy that bought my body when he asked how many actuations I said 36605, he said do you mean 3605 ? lol it was THAT clean.

[sonicGLI]

I buy/sell stuff all the time on Fred Miranda. I just did a search through a dozen or so 5DII FS threads and it looks like it's going for about:

1- "Like New" = $1600-1800 (1700-1900 w/grip)
2- "Dings/Marks/high shutter count" = $1400-1600

[Mk1Racer]

I buy/sell stuff all the time on Fred Miranda. I just did a search through a dozen or so 5DII FS threads and it looks like it's going for about:

1- "Like New" = $1600-1800 (1700-1900 w/grip)
2- "Dings/Marks/high shutter count" = $1400-1600

I doubt those prices will hold. Canon has lowered the price for a refurb'd one to $1759, which is down from $1999. A week or two ago, you could have gotten it for 15% off $1759, which gave you a net of ~$1500. There was a code for $5 shipping, plus whatever your local sales tax is. I would suspect that you'll shortly see the 5DII be reinstated to the CLP, which will then be 20% off $1759 w/ no shipping charges, and whatever your local sales tax is (provided you have an old Canon camera to recycle). That makes it just over $1400 if you live in a place w/o sales tax. For me, it would be $1505 (7% NJ sales tax). Not too shabby for a 5DII w/ a 90-day warranty (and the potential to buy an extended Mack warranty). I expect the "dings/marks/high click" ones will be available for $1200 +/-. Not too shabby, considering that's that a new 40D kit went for 3 years ago.

[alextakesphotos]

^ NICE!

Ill be picking up my 5d II this summer.

[sonicGLI]

I doubt those prices will hold.

Duh. Prices of bodies gradually go down the second they hit the used market, especially when a new model comes out. I'm just giving real-world examples of what they're selling for right_now.

Canon has lowered the price for a refurb'd one to $1759, which is down from $1999. A week or two ago, you could have gotten it for 15% off $1759, which gave you a net of ~$1500. There was a code for $5 shipping, plus whatever your local sales tax is. I would suspect that you'll shortly see the 5DII be reinstated to the CLP, which will then be 20% off $1759 w/ no shipping charges, and whatever your local sales tax is (provided you have an old Canon camera to recycle). That makes it just over $1400 if you live in a place w/o sales tax. For me, it would be $1505 (7% NJ sales tax). Not too shabby for a 5DII w/ a 90-day warranty (and the potential to buy an extended Mack warranty). I expect the "dings/marks/high click" ones will be available for $1200 +/-. Not too shabby, considering that's that a new 40D kit went for 3 years ago.

By the way, of course all of that is true, but do you know how many "new to photography" people buy off forums like Fred Miranda who have NO IDEA about the refurb programs? I'm serious, I see used stuff selling for refurb prices all the time.

These things are worth what people will buy them for, not what you think they're worth based on what you know.

[Trict GTi]

I'll bet you guys would appreciate this i have been on this guys web site for a while now, and all his reviews are amazing and unbiased.

http://vimeo.com/39292404

And yes he does love his Canon 5DmkIII

[J.Knipl]

I think I'll stick with my MarkII for now and put that money into T/S lens . Maybe the 5DIV will be for me.

[too_slow]

I'm still debating if I should sell my beloved 1Ds Mark II for a 5D3. Decisions..

[Village Idiot™]

I'm still debating if I should sell my beloved 1Ds Mark II for a 5D3. Decisions..

I want to see some real pixel peeping test between it and the D800. The 5D MKIII has all the features the that would have made the 5D2 killer, but from everything I've seen the image quality just doesn't look as good. It should be better and the images should be sharper with more detail. I don't know if it's just samples I've seen from others where bad or what, but I may be switching to Nikon when I finally decide I need another camera. The 5D2 will last for now. I mean, I've shot concert photography with it, so I can mostly live with the AF for now.

[sonicGLI]

I disagree, I just think we're seeing differing in-camera processing being applied (or lack thereof [read: picture styles]) due to differing sensors. The 5DIII is doing what everybody else is doing.... providing a fairly flat photo with TONS of data to work with in RAW in post. Hell, if the 5DIII was even close to 5DII in IQ (which it is, plus a few more pixels) I'd still take it because of the many other advancements like; a real focus system, being able to shoot in extremely low light, etc. That's what I'd like to see in more real-world tests, not all this pixel-peeping crap.

[Village Idiot™]

I disagree, I just think we're seeing differing in-camera processing being applied (or lack thereof [read: picture styles]) due to differing sensors. The 5DIII is doing what everybody else is doing.... providing a fairly flat photo with TONS of data to work with in RAW in post. Hell, if the 5DIII was even close to 5DII in IQ (which it is, plus a few more pixels) I'd still take it because of the many other advancements like; a real focus system, being able to shoot in extremely low light, etc. That's what I'd like to see in more real-world tests, not all this pixel-peeping crap.

I need to see some more photos to believe it. Most every 5D3 shot I've seen so far isn't very sharp in comparison to the D800.

[sonicGLI]

I need to see some more photos to believe it. Most every 5D3 shot I've seen so far isn't very sharp in comparison to the D800.

In comparison to what? The photos out of my 5DII aren't super sharp or saturated, I use a picture style setting that makes them that way so there's very little in-camera processing, I prefer to do that in post. You're comparing Apple's to Oranges here... pixel peeping has got to be the worst thing to come out of the digital age

[alextakesphotos]

pixel peeping has got to be the worst thing to come out of the digital age

this

/thread

[87vr6]

I fully agree with that. Not to mention that yes, the d800 out resolves the 5d3, it better with 36mp.. They are two different cameras, one a high resolution monster, good for studio work, the other a more rounded camera with awesome high iso capabilities.

[Village Idiot™]

In comparison to what? The photos out of my 5DII aren't super sharp or saturated, I use a picture style setting that makes them that way so there's very little in-camera processing, I prefer to do that in post. You're comparing Apple's to Oranges here... pixel peeping has got to be the worst thing to come out of the digital age

AFAIK you only need two items to make a comparison.

And sure you can use USM to your hearts content, but a sharper clearer image SOOC is better than one you have to sharpen the hell out of, IMO.

You're seriously going to get frustrated and upset because I want to see a good comparison between two cameras' IQ before I make a decision about what I want to purchase? I apologize that my choice of camera and how I choose impose that much of an emotional burden upon you.

[keystervr6]

it doesn't matter what hammer you use, you're probably going to still make a ****ty birdhouse.

[sonicGLI]

AFAIK you only need two items to make a comparison.

And sure you can use USM to your hearts content, but a sharper clearer image SOOC is better than one you have to sharpen the hell out of, IMO.

You're seriously going to get frustrated and upset because I want to see a good comparison between two cameras' IQ before I make a decision about what I want to purchase? I apologize that my choice of camera and how I choose impose that much of an emotional burden upon you.

Um, I meant, in comparison to "what settings" both cameras are using? What, exactly, would you classify as the ideal settings for both cameras to get the sharpest photo possible out of camera? You do realize that picture style settings on Canon cameras have a significant impact on out of camera outcome, right?

That's my point. You could make the photos over sharp in both cameras or not at all. Your comparison makes no sense... except to pixel peepers.

Have NO idea where you're going with "emotional burden" b.s. I'm sorry I disagree with your argument? I guess?

[DEZL_DUB]

Still waiting on shipment...
So impatient!

[Village Idiot™]

Um, I meant, in comparison to "what settings" both cameras are using? What, exactly, would you classify as the ideal settings for both cameras to get the sharpest photo possible out of camera? You do realize that picture style settings on Canon cameras have a significant impact on out of camera outcome, right?

That's my point. You could make the photos over sharp in both cameras or not at all. Your comparison makes no sense... except to pixel peepers.

Have NO idea where you're going with "emotional burden" b.s. I'm sorry I disagree with your argument? I guess?

Manual, Raw....

Because I really want to compare how a camera processes photos with it's different modes rather than untouched shots...

You're all kinds of bent out of shape because of my opinions and what I want to see. If you weren't, there wouldn't be all these "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE WANTS TO SEE THAT!!!!" post out of you. I do things differently from you. Get over it.

[sonicGLI]

Um, ya, I'm the one bent out of shape.

[valfaw]

it doesn't matter what hammer you use, you're probably going to still make a ****ty birdhouse.

irony or coincidence???

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com

[Village Idiot™]

Um, ya, I'm the one bent out of shape.

Um, ya.

In comparison to what? The photos out of my 5DII aren't super sharp or saturated, I use a picture style setting that makes them that way so there's very little in-camera processing, I prefer to do that in post. You're comparing Apple's to Oranges here... pixel peeping has got to be the worst thing to come out of the digital age

[keystervr6]

irony or coincidence???

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com

holy crap that's awesome. thanks for that link, I haven't seen that before

[Mk1Racer]

Duh. Prices of bodies gradually go down the second they hit the used market, especially when a new model comes out. I'm just giving real-world examples of what they're selling for right_now.



By the way, of course all of that is true, but do you know how many "new to photography" people buy off forums like Fred Miranda who have NO IDEA about the refurb programs? I'm serious, I see used stuff selling for refurb prices all the time.

These things are worth what people will buy them for, not what you think they're worth based on what you know.

Sorry, I guess my response was colored w/ a lot of the banter from POTN. And I agree w/ you, I don't get how people are selling used bodies for higher than the CLP price. You've been able to get a refurb'd 7D through CLP for <$1200 for well over a year now. Yet you still see used ones going for more. There was one that just sold on POTN (listed for $1175 w/ 3-party grip and battery). Said it had 2300 clicks. Personally, I would have spent the extra $50-$75 to get one w/ a 90-day warranty (or I would have skipped the grip). I scratch my head about this one all the time.

[71sbeetle]

Sorry, I guess my response was colored w/ a lot of the banter from POTN. And I agree w/ you, I don't get how people are selling used bodies for higher than the CLP price. You've been able to get a refurb'd 7D through CLP for <$1200 for well over a year now. Yet you still see used ones going for more. There was one that just sold on POTN (listed for $1175 w/ 3-party grip and battery). Said it had 2300 clicks. Personally, I would have spent the extra $50-$75 to get one w/ a 90-day warranty (or I would have skipped the grip). I scratch my head about this one all the time.

I think a lot of people either:
1- don't know about CLP
2- don't want to deal with CLP
3- don't have a camera to trade in and don't want to deal with getting one
4- have a bad "view" of refurbished items (which I can understand, but not on a Canon product)
5- the camera is not in stock when they need it

[azul]

I'm still debating if I should sell my beloved 1Ds Mark II for a 5D3. Decisions..

I had a 1Ds MkII (bought it in '05) and sold it to fund two 5D MkIIs (in '10). I plan on getting at least one 5DMkIII if not two by the summer (will still keep one or both MkIIs). Having had shot with the 1Ds and the 5D, I can say that the main thing that I missed was the AF. Knowing that the 5DMkIII now has a pro AF in addition to the better high ISO performance, I would probably jump on over. Unless, you are in super extreme weather, the 5D is plenty durable. I have shot in poring rain with my 5DMkII and never had a problem. I would just drape a washcloth over the top. Never had an issue.

[Bubba 2.0 GLS]

Figure I update and say I traded my 5DIII, I just couldn't get used to that camera. Ended up trading it for a new D700 with Nikon grip and 24-70G. I said screw the video and my cousin can make due with the 35/2 I gave him.

Now if it was only like the film days, I would shove that sensor in a D700 in a heartbeat.

[Fuk It MkV]

I can nooooooooot wait till I get mine

[DEZL_DUB]

Painful wait time, but it's finally here

[Mk1Racer]

I think a lot of people either:
1- don't know about CLP
2- don't want to deal with CLP
3- don't have a camera to trade in and don't want to deal with getting one
4- have a bad "view" of refurbished items (which I can understand, but not on a Canon product)
5- the camera is not in stock when they need it

1 - Probably not your average person.
2 - If you're considering used gear, and know about the program, why wouldn't you?
3 - I guess, but I would have no problem spending $10-$20 to save a few hundred.
4 - I know there are people that feel this way. They're the same people that never buy used gear.
5 - Probably the single biggest factor (other than not knowing about the program).

Just saw the the 5DII is back on the CLP list. It's hit or miss if they're in stock or not. One of the neat things about the CLP, is that you can get a refurb lens at 20% off, if you buy it w/ a body.

/threadjack

[71sbeetle]

actually I just had a friend buy a camera, even after I told him he could get it thru CLP (and buy a used broken P&S on eBay for $5-10 shipped) he decided that was too much of a headache and ended up buying a used one for more ..... lol