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      03-06-2012 11:08 AM #1
      I really need some other opinions from other people. I love my car and way to take it to the next level but really can't decide whethe to save a little longer and buy a c2 kit and stay static or buy a kit from bag riders. I'm very indecisive and change my mind every minute. Just wish these damn things weren't so expensive. Is it really worth it to turbo our 2.5 with FWD and only 250 hp coming from the stage 2 kit. I want to do it jw if it's worth it. Any info would help thanks!

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      03-06-2012 11:11 AM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by vDub624 View Post
      I really need some other opinions from other people. I love my car and way to take it to the next level but really can't decide whethe to save a little longer and buy a c2 kit and stay static or buy a kit from bag riders. I'm very indecisive and change my mind every minute. Just wish these damn things weren't so expensive. Is it really worth it to turbo our 2.5 with FWD and only 250 hp coming from the stage 2 kit. I want to do it jw if it's worth it. Any info would help thanks!
      Seeing as though I hate bags and am more of a 'go' than 'show' person -- stay static and go turbo.

      You would regret the bags in the long run!

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      03-06-2012 11:46 AM #3
      I really have been wanting to go turbo for a while now. Just trying to get the courage to click "buy" haha. I know the 2.5 is capable of good numbers but I'd like to see it compete with Vrt. Haha

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      03-06-2012 11:47 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by vDub624 View Post
      I really have been wanting to go turbo for a while now. Just trying to get the courage to click "buy" haha. I know the 2.5 is capable of good numbers but I'd like to see it compete with Vrt. Haha
      Then man the heck up and click that damn buy button!




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      Turbo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
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      03-06-2012 12:01 PM #6
      United Motorsports turbo.

      call em directly at HQ or contact bw performance.

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      03-06-2012 01:24 PM #7
      Turbo

      Bags are for groceries. You can still attain a real nice low with coils

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      03-06-2012 02:46 PM #8
      Bags are for groceries.

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      03-06-2012 02:49 PM #9
      Um its much more than 250HP I assure you of that. At least maybe i'm just lucky, but my car can run away from stage 2+ gti's Audi a8 4.2l and pretty much many other Nice cars. I may be delusional, but the 250HP quoted by c2 is probably a bit more on the conservative side. Have a friend that hit 289HP in his auto turbo rabbit. i'm also kind of wanting bags, but I also know WAY too many people that had bags, and then after a year went back to static.

      I'm not sure why they always go back to static, but from a few friends, they just can't get their ride dialed in. and it never rides like a performance suspension...
      god i love my car. it may not be fast, but it's crazy fun!



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      03-06-2012 02:55 PM #10
      There are a few "performance" bags out there, but they don't compare to a decent set of coils, hell even a decent spring/strut set up.

      The way I see it, ya, it looks kinda cool to have a car that looks like its eating the pavement. But when it comes to enjoyment, the butt dyno trumps all of that.

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      03-06-2012 03:03 PM #11
      bags can be good, can be used for racing, can be reliable.

      coils ARE.

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      03-06-2012 03:52 PM #12
      More GO less show please !!!

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      03-06-2012 07:26 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by thygreyt View Post
      bags can be good, can be used for racing, can be reliable.

      coils ARE.
      Since this is the 2.5 section the responses aren't surprising at all. I say go bags first wait till a couple turbo kits come about. You have a lot more to spend money on to go turbo and make it reliable, than you would with bags. You'll also need to keep a reserve of cash for when your turbo setup WILL break...

      And thanks greyt for saying that about bags. I was finna flip a bitch! Bags can outperform a coil setup any day if done right.
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      03-06-2012 07:28 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
      Since this is the 2.5 section the responses aren't surprising at all. I say go bags first wait till a couple turbo kits come about. You have a lot more to spend money on to go turbo and make it reliable, than you would with bags. You'll also need to keep a reserve of cash for when your turbo setup WILL break...

      And thanks greyt for saying that about bags. I was finna flip a bitch! Bags can outperform a coil setup any day if done right.
      What does this being the 2.5 section have anything to do with our opinions of turbo over a bag setup?

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      03-06-2012 07:37 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
      Since this is the 2.5 section the responses aren't surprising at all. I say go bags first wait till a couple turbo kits come about. You have a lot more to spend money on to go turbo and make it reliable, than you would with bags. You'll also need to keep a reserve of cash for when your turbo setup WILL break...

      And thanks greyt for saying that about bags. I was finna flip a bitch! Bags can outperform a coil setup any day if done right.
      i have seen bags outperform coils. and i have sen bags that cant handle daily driving for over 1 year...
      its all up to what you ge and how you install it.

      but, most coils are reliable.

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      03-06-2012 07:39 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by SimpleStaple View Post
      Seeing as though I hate bags and am more of a 'go' than 'show' person -- stay static and go turbo.

      You would regret the bags in the long run!
      What go parts do you have on your 2.5 that you can make this claim?

      Never met anyone regret bags... They've always regretted not forking up the cash and skipping out on coils
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      03-06-2012 07:47 PM #17
      I can point you to a guy here in Jacksonville that hated his. BUT he had someone who was terrible at installs do all of the work on it. The car will literally float when on the highway. Trying to find the video I took last month...

      I think this convo needs to take place in its own thread. The OP compared apples to oranges so naturally it's going to spark a riot.

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      03-06-2012 07:47 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by thygreyt View Post
      i have seen bags outperform coils. and i have sen bags that cant handle daily driving for over 1 year...
      its all up to what you ge and how you install it.

      but, most coils are reliable.
      Yep completely agree. With an air setup on the track you can make on the fly adjustments, which with coils you would have to have pit time to adjust. But with coils you don't have to worry about blowing a bag, which is very Damn near impossible to do unless you are rubbing it or pinching the rears.

      I think install cost, clutch upgrades, motor mounts, gauges and little things here and there are being left out of the equation...

      Op will do what he wants regardless of what we say, I just think he should understand there will be more to the turbo kit, and bags are pretty much a one time fee, if you run water traps
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      03-06-2012 07:49 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by itskohler View Post
      I can point you to a guy here in Jacksonville that hated his. BUT he had someone who was terrible at installs do all of the work on it. The car will literally float when on the highway. Trying to find the video I took last month...

      I think this convo needs to take place in its own thread. The OP compared apples to oranges so naturally it's going to spark a riot.
      He must be missing his front sway then.
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      03-06-2012 07:50 PM #21
      Coils are great, if you spend the time getting then dialed in/corner balancing and what not... To me its one thing that they have that bags might have a hard time achieving. But if you're good at going to your setting/psi that you were aligned at,I would assume they can handle just as well.
      The biggest issue I've had with those running bags, is the simple fact that they are only doing it for internet stardom.... Most have a great looking trunk set up, and it looks awesome slammed...but that's about where they fall off... To some, looking good is all they care for. I for one drive my car, and would never run without a front sway bar, granted there are solutions now that offer the ability. To me its about fusing things into a Nice little package, performance, looks/aesthetics and reliability.
      Can you run a turbo reliably? Absolutely!
      Bags? Yes again!
      Both? Yup... But at what point are you going to have issues with either? That's the unknown!
      How cool do you look stuck with a blown bag? How awesome is it stuck with a blown motor? What can you afford to fix? Cheaper route says bags... I may bag my car someday...but beating up on porsches and other sports cars is the epitome of hilarity and fun!
      god i love my car. it may not be fast, but it's crazy fun!



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      03-06-2012 09:12 PM #23
      oh my god, turbo is the way to go for sure. you could either:

      A) try to look super cool for people while driving slow around town

      OR

      B) greatly increase the car's performance that will put a huge smile on your face everywhere you go. you'll also be able to actually feel a difference with this mod, instead of just looking at the car from the exterior.

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      Bags make a ssshhh sound and makes you look cool, turbos also make a ssshh sound but actually makes you cool.
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      I say turbo i wish i went with turbo over my bags. Everyone has bags now
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      Quote Originally Posted by nunumkv View Post
      I say turbo i wish i went with turbo over my bags. Everyone has bags now
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      Both are worth it, have their upsides and downsides.
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      Quote Originally Posted by kevin FaKiN spLits View Post
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      Quote Originally Posted by nunumkv View Post
      I say turbo i wish i went with turbo over my bags. Everyone has bags now
      proof there.

      i personally would go C2 turbo over bags ANY day.
      and what race series do they run bags on the cars?
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      03-07-2012 08:43 AM #30
      I have had 2 people I personally know that regret buying bags. But, in the end it is all just personal preference.

      Do you want show, or do you want go?

      There is always that nice moment when you pull up beside a GTI and he thinks you got nuttin. Or there are the times you pull up beside this static kid thinking he is low and then you dump her.

      LMAO! Pick your poison i guess... Im already retartedly low for the roads around here, for me it doesnt make sense for bags. Every tom dick and harry has bags here, and they do it just for status. Which is really lame.

      Whatever you do, do it for yourself and what you will enjoy most.

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      03-07-2012 10:26 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by nothing-leaves-stock View Post
      proof there.

      i personally would go C2 turbo over bags ANY day.
      and what race series do they run bags on the cars?
      SEMA musclecar events. When I went in 2010 EVERY 60's-70's musclecar running the autocross, roadcourse and everything in between were on air suspension... ALL of them I looked at were. They did phenomenally well.
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      03-07-2012 10:32 AM #32
      Turbo. 250hp will do nicely.

      Bags are the parachute pants of the automotive world. One day, you'll be hoping no one still has any pictures of you rocking them.

      You could also go headers and full exhaust, then couple that with a C2 SRI & tune, and an APR Carbonio.

      You'll still get to spend a lot of money, but it will be more reliable. Not to mention an easier install.

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      I remember when people modified their Volkswagen to enhance the driving experience. What ever happened to Fahrvergnugen?
      Bags are for kids that grew up watching Pimp My Ride. Turbo is for all of us that enjoy actual motorsport.
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      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      I remember when people modified their Volkswagen to enhance the driving experience. What ever happened to Fahrvergnugen?
      Bags are for kids that grew up watching Pimp My Ride. Turbo is for all of us that enjoy actual motorsport.

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      Quote Originally Posted by pete@blackforest View Post
      I remember when people modified their Volkswagen to enhance the driving experience. What ever happened to Fahrvergnugen?
      Bags are for kids that grew up watching Pimp My Ride. Turbo is for all of us that enjoy actual motorsport.
      church! Yeah I said it!

      Perfectly explained. And FACT!
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