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    Thread: Nevadburgring? From Jalopnik... so take it for what it's worth.

    1. 03-08-2012 04:05 PM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by InfinitiG View Post
      Back on the subject of dirt

      Here is a profile of the elevation changes on the Nurburgring:


      Highest point is 300 meters higher than the lowest point. That is almost 1,000 FT, which amounts to basically a small mountain.

      That's gonna take a lot of dirt.
      What if they scaled down the elevation to create a ring-like experience?

      1/3 scale might do it....

      Just spitballing here

      Think giant, paved, dirt rollercoaster for cars.

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      03-08-2012 04:07 PM #52
      meh i would rather drive this, its all in my back yard... (i live in the town called Etowah on the map)


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      03-08-2012 04:11 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by A.Wilder View Post


      need some dirt moved?

      The main problem with Vegas is that the dirt is only a few feet deep. Then you hit caliche
      What is this machine of my nightmares?

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      03-08-2012 04:22 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave Zero View Post
      What if they scaled down the elevation to create a ring-like experience?

      1/3 scale might do it....

      Just spitballing here

      Think giant, paved, dirt rollercoaster for cars.
      Yeah for sure that would be more feasible. Just that in the OP the guy who said he's going to do it said he's going for an exact replica. Have fun with that!
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      03-08-2012 04:28 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by hondamnit View Post
      meh i would rather drive this, its all in my back yard... (i live in the town called Etowah on the map)

      Want to link me to that map? That looks like a fun detour during this years Quattro de Mayo ...

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      03-08-2012 04:33 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by A.Wilder View Post
      The main problem with Vegas is that the dirt is only a few feet deep. Then you hit caliche

      So, we inject Nevada with acid. What could go wrong?
      pardon my 'merican

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      03-08-2012 04:53 PM #57
      You guys realize that Vegas is surrounded by mountain ranges right? There are mountains in all directions. That's why it is called the Vegas Valley? We even get snow and have a ski resort.

      To the west:


      To the east:


      TO the north (where the speedway is):


      Elevation is not an issue.

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      03-08-2012 04:56 PM #58
      you don't really notice it, but the elevation change stuff is ridiculous to even suggest...it might work a little bit, but it'll probably be FLAT.
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      03-08-2012 04:57 PM #59
      They have an indoor ski resort in Dubai. Anything is possible. I think it is a great idea. (if it is close to the mustang ranch)
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      03-08-2012 04:59 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      We have that here in Ohio .. only 90 mins south of Cleveland, too ...



      I love taking a free day in the summer and driving that ... all 45/55mph zones and nearly zero 5-0 presence. It's my alternative to the 10 hour drive to The Dragon.
      Why would you not put that google maps link in your post WHY WOULD YOU NOT?! D:


      Ive been meaning to make a long weekend trip back to Ohio and that would be a perfect little run around.
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      03-08-2012 05:01 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by leitmotif View Post
      They have an indoor ski resort in Dubai. Anything is possible. I think it is a great idea. (if it is close to the mustang ranch)
      Yeah that's a bit more straightforward than a snaking, 13 mile long track with elevation changes all over the place.

      The indoor ski resort in Dubai....is a hill.
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      03-08-2012 05:04 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by NoDubJustYet View Post
      how do you build in all the elevation changes??
      Looking for a car event on the East Coast? Check here

      I have an idea, we will try it my way first...and then we will finish.

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      03-08-2012 05:06 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by jacobyb View Post
      Elevation is not an issue.
      Oh, excellent... so you have a set of hills picked out that mirror the Nurburgring arrangement perfectly?

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      03-08-2012 05:18 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by InfinitiG View Post
      Yeah that's a bit more straightforward than a snaking, 13 mile long track with elevation changes all over the place.

      The indoor ski resort in Dubai....is a hill.
      I'm just being optomistic. But you're right.




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      03-08-2012 05:24 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by hondamnit View Post
      meh i would rather drive this, its all in my back yard... (i live in the town called Etowah on the map)


      Out of curiosity, how much of that trip is passable after the storms of last week? They were saying a lot of the area around Ooltewah, Etowah, and Cleveland got torn up pretty good.

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      03-08-2012 05:26 PM #66
      Would be super dope, especially if you can rent cars to drive on it.
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      03-08-2012 05:39 PM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by jacobyb View Post
      You guys realize that Vegas is surrounded by mountain ranges right? There are mountains in all directions. That's why it is called the Vegas Valley? We even get snow and have a ski resort.
      Elevation is not an issue.
      The Eifel "Mountains" really aren't like this... The Appalachians lend themselves more to the topography of the Nürburgring.

      The Eifel region is old and worn down, the 'Ring isn't in the Alps or anything.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie View Post
      Gotta keep right on the 'Ring. German road rules apply.
      Quote Originally Posted by NoDubJustYet View Post
      I think you and I have mentioned this one a few times over the years.
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      Might as well just make it our signatures at this point.

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      03-08-2012 05:49 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by superjario18 View Post
      Why would you not put that google maps link in your post WHY WOULD YOU NOT?! D:


      Ive been meaning to make a long weekend trip back to Ohio and that would be a perfect little run around.
      I did ... click the picture ... It gives you the route to customize to your own content!

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      03-08-2012 05:50 PM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by NoDubJustYet View Post
      The Eifel "Mountains" really aren't like this... The Appalachians lend themselves more to the topography of the Nürburgring.

      The Eifel region is old and worn down, the 'Ring isn't in the Alps or anything.
      something else to think about, Miller Motorsports Park has been said to have a big problem with keeping blowing sand off of the racing surface, imagine trying to keep a track the size of the 'ring swept and clean



      Also, all the people trying to compare the construction of the track to the various earth moving projects in the middle east, keep in mind that things work much differently for that. A lot of UEA construction is done with what is close to slave labor and those projects are thought of having the potential to recoup investment very quickly being ultra lux residential areas. The income from a racetrack and never holds races, built by a labor force that actually makes an income will be much much different.

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      03-08-2012 06:42 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by jacobyb View Post
      You guys realize that Vegas is surrounded by mountain ranges right? There are mountains in all directions. That's why it is called the Vegas Valley? We even get snow and have a ski resort.

      To the west:
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      03-08-2012 07:14 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
      Meh, so it has come down to this... the USA and it's inhabitants are soo lazy now, that they're replicating landmarks, monuments, even race tracks from other parts of the world so that Americans don't have to ever leave the country and possibly embarrass themselves due to language barriers and culture differences.

      The America I used to know, would outdo the Nurburgring not copy it.
      they see me trollin...

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      03-08-2012 07:15 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      Want to link me to that map? That looks like a fun detour during this years Quattro de Mayo ...
      just looked that website, the tail of the dragon is a joke compared to the route i posted.... ZERO 5-0 and not much traffic. PM me if you want detailed directions.

      Quote Originally Posted by NashGTI View Post
      Out of curiosity, how much of that trip is passable after the storms of last week? They were saying a lot of the area around Ooltewah, Etowah, and Cleveland got torn up pretty good.
      we didnt get anything here. that was mostly all in TN im in NC

    23. 03-08-2012 07:36 PM #73
      Back to this thing called dirt. I hear dirt can weigh about 2,000 pounds per cubic yard. If the track surface is 10 yards wide and the elevation change is 330 yards, with a length of about 28,000 yards, that gives 184,800,000,000 pounds of dirt to move. If an elevating motor scraper like the Caterpillar 613C series II can carry about 10 cubic yards of dirt per scrape, and there are 92,400,000 cubic yards of dirt to move...that's an awful lot of dirt. Of course, my math could be wrong.

    24. 03-08-2012 07:40 PM #74
      Average track width of the 'ring is 30 feet.

      Track length is approximately 25km with the Nordschleife

      Elevation change is around 300m

      All measurements were roughly converted to yards for the above calculation.

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      03-08-2012 07:47 PM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by Crob View Post
      I'm serious, so we're China now? Is that what we'd like to show the world?
      I wouldnt go that far, dear god man. Obviously creating something better would be ideal, but if you were considering building a race track, i cant think of any better place to attempt to recreate.

      You could make any random corn field into a exact copy of St. Andrews, but it's not going to scratch the itch... How the hell would you recreate the longest race track in the world to even come close to sniffing a fart of the original.

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