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    Thread: Electronic Stability Control - How to turn off/disable?

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      10-04-2012 08:24 PM #491
      Quote Originally Posted by ThatVdub View Post
      MPG's must have dropped some?
      Have to pay to play. Nothing major, a couple miles per gallon maybe.
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      10-04-2012 08:38 PM #492
      Quote Originally Posted by DViggen View Post
      I've spent a bunch of time, and some money (about $500) working on figuring this out....I think I will try and test my theory this weekend after giving my wallet a small rest. I had a request in another thread for Canadian Golf R codes...but was told "it's been posted earlier in the thread" (btw - great way to not support someone trying to figure out an issue) and I only have one Canadian Golf R code to go off of (there may be more...but I haven't done a recent search).....when I have 3 different US codes to figure out what I need/want done.

      If it works out...it will be a rather simple fix....
      awesome! let us know how it goes!!!
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      10-04-2012 08:52 PM #493
      Quote Originally Posted by ThatVdub View Post
      MPG's must have dropped some?
      I have the comp controller and since installing a month(ish) ago I'm getting about 0.5 - 1 mpg less per fill then before.

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      10-04-2012 09:19 PM #494
      Spoke with APR at H2O and they are working hard on a tune to turn off the ESP in addition to the ASR. Fingers crossed.

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      10-04-2012 10:33 PM #495
      The fact that you can't turn off ESP has kept me from purchasing an R.

      The first time it is publicly available, either from a tuner for purchasing, or via Vag Com, I will purchase a Golf R within a month. Guaranteed.

      Lets hope it makes its way out soon.

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      10-04-2012 10:41 PM #496
      Quote Originally Posted by MKV Aaron View Post
      The fact that you can't turn off ESP has kept me from purchasing an R.

      The first time it is publicly available, either from a tuner for purchasing, or via Vag Com, I will purchase a Golf R within a month. Guaranteed.

      Lets hope it makes its way out soon.

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      10-04-2012 10:54 PM #497
      Quote Originally Posted by jsausley View Post
      I used to live in Burlington for 2 years when I was younger.

      And there is nothing screwy about what I posted. I don't want electronic intervention when I drive, simple as that. My GTI can get the ass out on command and makes it very entertaining to drive, but the non defeatable ESP kicks in and ruins all the fun.

      Not to mention with higher HP applications, it comes into play with simple throttle usage.

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      10-04-2012 11:14 PM #498
      Light rain yesterday... nice film of oil, got all 4 loose in 2nd AND 3rd... nice long slide, no esp kicking in.
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      10-04-2012 11:34 PM #499
      Quote Originally Posted by droopy1592 View Post
      Light rain yesterday... nice film of oil, got all 4 loose in 2nd AND 3rd... nice long slide, no esp kicking in.
      Hahaha that makes me giggle!
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      10-05-2012 12:01 AM #500
      Quote Originally Posted by MKV Aaron View Post
      The fact that you can't turn off ESP has kept me from purchasing an R.

      The first time it is publicly available, either from a tuner for purchasing, or via Vag Com, I will purchase a Golf R within a month. Guaranteed.

      Lets hope it makes its way out soon.
      Someone will figure it out sooner than later but hopefully not before its sold out in your case.

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      10-05-2012 12:39 PM #501
      Quote Originally Posted by Vickroy6 View Post
      Someone will figure it out sooner than later but hopefully not before its sold out in your case.
      I would be in the market for a CPO version anyway. They are just starting to touch into the high 20s, so my plan (if they can disable ESP) is to pull the trigger when I can get one for about 28k plus ttl etc.

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      10-17-2012 01:55 AM #502
      I don't know if this would help or not but... Can we get any info from a 2013 gti and have that help figuring any of this out. From what I've heard they have the ability to fully disable traction control. Again I have no idea if this will help or not, just a thought.

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      10-28-2012 03:23 AM #503
      I've read almost 80% of this thread and thus far I've come to the conclusion that I am still confused.

      Is there a defeat available by unplugging the ABS fuse?
      Has anyone successfully done this?
      Are the side-effects simply lights on the dash, no abs, and no ESP?

      aaron

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      10-28-2012 07:36 AM #504
      Quote Originally Posted by praecurvo View Post
      I've read almost 80% of this thread and thus far I've come to the conclusion that I am still confused.

      Is there a defeat available by unplugging the ABS fuse?
      Has anyone successfully done this?
      Are the side-effects simply lights on the dash, no abs, and no ESP?

      aaron
      Yes. You can unplug the ABS and it will work, but then you will have no ABS and you will have lights in the dash.

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      10-28-2012 02:53 PM #505
      Quote Originally Posted by praecurvo View Post
      I've read almost 80% of this thread and thus far I've come to the conclusion that I am still confused.

      Is there a defeat available by unplugging the ABS fuse?
      Has anyone successfully done this?
      Are the side-effects simply lights on the dash, no abs, and no ESP?

      aaron
      Quote Originally Posted by jsausley View Post
      Yes. You can unplug the ABS and it will work, but then you will have no ABS and you will have lights in the dash.
      Has anyone determined for sure whether pulling the ABS fuse disables the steering-angle sensor? And, if so, does disabling the steering-angle sensor have implications for the AWD and where it decides to send power?
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      10-31-2012 01:09 AM #506
      Quote Originally Posted by Charlie84 View Post
      Has anyone determined for sure whether pulling the ABS fuse disables the steering-angle sensor? And, if so, does disabling the steering-angle sensor have implications for the AWD and where it decides to send power?
      Scary BUMP!

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      10-31-2012 11:43 AM #507
      Quote Originally Posted by Charlie84 View Post
      Has anyone determined for sure whether pulling the ABS fuse disables the steering-angle sensor? And, if so, does disabling the steering-angle sensor have implications for the AWD and where it decides to send power?
      Pretty sure Mike@tyrolsport confirmed this. There's a link to his thread in the FAQ.

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      11-24-2012 07:38 AM #508
      so all-in-all what ive gathered from this lengthy thread is that the USA finally got an awd MANUAL golf but cant use it to its fullest ability because of the ESP?
      ive been a VW guy my entire life and days like this make me wonder why!

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      11-24-2012 10:02 AM #509
      Quote Originally Posted by BIGboySTARK View Post
      so all-in-all what ive gathered from this lengthy thread is that the USA finally got an awd MANUAL golf but cant use it to its fullest ability because of the ESP?
      ive been a VW guy my entire life and days like this make me wonder why!
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      11-24-2012 11:24 AM #510
      Quote Originally Posted by Charlie84 View Post
      Has anyone determined for sure whether pulling the ABS fuse disables the steering-angle sensor? And, if so, does disabling the steering-angle sensor have implications for the AWD and where it decides to send power?
      I pulled it the other day, and had fwd only, no abs, and severe disappointment.

      If you are looking at the fuse panel under the hood, standing at the front of the car the top right corner, second fuse from the top is the abs.
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    21. 11-29-2012 10:14 PM #511
      I've been following this issue and saw this posted today:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Aq2mJuT44

      I did a quick search of the forum and couldn't find anything like this. Is this a hoax, or really someone who's defeated ESC?

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      11-29-2012 10:16 PM #512
      Quote Originally Posted by Lastlucidthought View Post
      I've been following this issue and saw this posted today:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Aq2mJuT44

      I did a quick search of the forum and couldn't find anything like this. Is this a hoax, or really someone who's defeated ESC?
      Bad at searching then:
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-thread-needed
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    23. 11-29-2012 10:23 PM #513
      Deep regrets, much thanks.

      BTW, Google search for Golf R Stability control turns up this thread. If it's sorted, good news.

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      01-18-2014 07:14 PM #515
      Quote Originally Posted by husa550 View Post
      Thats how i did mine..
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    26. 01-18-2014 09:09 PM #516
      Quote Originally Posted by hazy450 View Post
      Thats how i did mine..
      I have a -10 Passat TDi R-Line, perhaps it will work with that to...

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      01-18-2014 09:26 PM #517
      Quote Originally Posted by husa550 View Post
      Works great in our 2012 GLI (after adding the disable button 1st of course) AND works great on my 2012 Golf R
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      01-19-2014 11:59 AM #518
      Works on my 2012 golf r.
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    29. 01-20-2014 02:18 AM #519
      That sound promising

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      01-20-2014 03:24 AM #520
      Quote Originally Posted by husa550 View Post
      That sound promising
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    31. 01-21-2014 06:31 PM #521
      I can defeat both with the long press of the button on my 12 R with 24k miles. They reset when the car is restarted. I bought the car used and assumed that it was never tweaked or tuned but based in what i've seen in this thread someone must have used a vag-com to disable it.

      Thoughts?

    32. 01-21-2014 07:46 PM #522
      Quote Originally Posted by maximusR20 View Post
      I can defeat both with the long press of the button on my 12 R with 24k miles. They reset when the car is restarted. I bought the car used and assumed that it was never tweaked or tuned but based in what i've seen in this thread someone must have used a vag-com to disable it.

      Thoughts?
      Someone went in and changed the ABS module coding, no question about it.

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      02-04-2014 07:40 PM #523
      TechED,

      What's your opinion on this?

      Quote Originally Posted by VWVortex

      Also of note, there will be an ESP Sport mode on the GTI which allows the Electronic Stability Program to allow a certain amount of slip angle and fun before intervening. This is identical to the German-spec GTI. In my experiences in that car, it is damn near perfect and allows quite a bit of fun without intervening (see this video). Only the Golf R will have the full ESP Race Mode where it can be completely defeated.
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    34. 02-26-2014 01:30 AM #524
      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      TechED,

      What's your opinion on this?



      Link: http://www.vwvortex.com/news/volkswa...olf-7-preview/

      Now they just need to offer a recode to offer a ESP sport mode for the MK6

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      02-26-2014 09:28 AM #525
      Quote Originally Posted by MKV Aaron View Post
      The fact that you can't turn off ESP has kept me from purchasing an R.

      The first time it is publicly available, either from a tuner for purchasing, or via Vag Com, I will purchase a Golf R within a month. Guaranteed.

      Lets hope it makes its way out soon.
      True to my word, purchased one in December 2012 after the ESP defeat release.

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