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    Thread: Electronic Stability Control - How to turn off/disable?

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      10-02-2012 07:21 PM #456
      Quote Originally Posted by iThread View Post
      No, the GIT's ESP is very different from the R's programming because the GTI isn't all wheel drive.
      Yeah I meant if the 2013R could disable, but now, sadly, we know it cannot....
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    3. 10-02-2012 09:40 PM #458
      how does everyone feel the esp when it works

      i had a 07 civic si that had vsa that you could turn off and when not turned off it would limit the throttle going around corners


      does esp work the same way?


      i am looking at buying either a 13 golf autobahn or a golf r but i dont like the idea of having it never to turn off


      does anyone regret buying the r because of the esp interfering

      i probably wont be tracking the car just driving it around and some back roads

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      10-02-2012 09:44 PM #459
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      10-03-2012 07:31 AM #460
      Quote Originally Posted by articsilber323 View Post
      how does everyone feel the esp when it works

      i had a 07 civic si that had vsa that you could turn off and when not turned off it would limit the throttle going around corners


      does esp work the same way?


      i am looking at buying either a 13 golf autobahn or a golf r but i dont like the idea of having it never to turn off


      does anyone regret buying the r because of the esp interfering

      i probably wont be tracking the car just driving it around and some back roads
      The limits where it kicks in are very high. If you're not tracking the car, the only time your fun will be limited is if you try to do snow donuts. For spirited driving on wet or dry roads, if you notice anything, it's because it's just saved your ass.

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      10-03-2012 08:16 AM #461
      Quote Originally Posted by CarbonR View Post
      The limits where it kicks in are very high. If you're not tracking the car, the only time your fun will be limited is if you try to do snow donuts. For spirited driving on wet or dry roads, if you notice anything, it's because it's just saved your ass.


      Have still only had my ESP come on once and it was at VIR on stock tires trying to pass a car in a 90 degree left hander by diving underneath and trailbraking.

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      10-03-2012 08:43 AM #462
      Quote Originally Posted by CarbonR View Post
      The limits where it kicks in are very high. If you're not tracking the car, the only time your fun will be limited is if you try to do snow donuts. For spirited driving on wet or dry roads, if you notice anything, it's because it's just saved your ass.

      I second that but also want to add that even tracking the car in it's stock form I never once had ESP come on. Now that I run a 255/45/17 R Comp track tire with a rear sway and camber plates my grip levels are much higher and ESP is coming on quite a bit on some corner entries. Next time at the track I am really going to try hard to drive around ESP and see how my lap times are effected. If you want to have fun in the snow in a parking lot or something, just pull the ABS fuse and have at it!
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      10-03-2012 10:22 AM #463
      Quote Originally Posted by mcgyver7923 View Post
      I second that but also want to add that even tracking the car in it's stock form I never once had ESP come on. Now that I run a 255/45/17 R Comp track tire with a rear sway and camber plates my grip levels are much higher and ESP is coming on quite a bit on some corner entries. Next time at the track I am really going to try hard to drive around ESP and see how my lap times are effected. If you want to have fun in the snow in a parking lot or something, just pull the ABS fuse and have at it!
      Is that it?! Damn I thought I read it doesn't kick power out back when you do that but hell that's easy enough to do! Just carry lappy with me to clear the code when done
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      10-03-2012 10:28 AM #464
      For those with Rs with exhausts / stage2+..

      I sort of like the ESP. Leave it on, blast through a corner. The throttle will cut once or twice, making the car sound like it is a DSG farting in between shifts
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      10-03-2012 11:04 AM #465
      Quote Originally Posted by V8Star View Post
      For those with Rs with exhausts / stage2+..

      I sort of like the ESP. Leave it on, blast through a corner. The throttle will cut once or twice, making the car sound like it is a DSG farting in between shifts
      Is it a smooth transition between on throttle off throttle or it a full power cut and the car wiggles a lil? I had the esp light blinking at me for the first time this weekend but I couldn't feel the throttle cut. It was more like a partial closure of the throttle vs a full close and blow off like my mk4 GTI does.
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      10-03-2012 11:17 AM #466
      When it happened to me (just once, mind you) it felt like the car cut throttle completely and applied brakes just a hair to line the car back up. It all happened in probably half a second and then I got my power back.

      Just enough to tell me, "Hey, bozo, you overcooked that corner a bit."

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      10-03-2012 11:34 AM #467
      It has come on a lot for me, when trying to power through a corner.

      I actually had the rear end kick out a little sideways on me one day when I was making a u-turn. The roads were wet from rain and I got on it hard as I was making the u-turn. ESP kicked in and killed the fun.....Then again, maybe it kicked in and killed any chance of me wrecking my car.

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      10-03-2012 02:56 PM #468
      Quote Originally Posted by scottisha View Post
      It has come on a lot for me, when trying to power through a corner.

      I actually had the rear end kick out a little sideways on me one day when I was making a u-turn. The roads were wet from rain and I got on it hard as I was making the u-turn. ESP kicked in and killed the fun.....Then again, maybe it kicked in and killed any chance of me wrecking my car.

      Scott
      This is good to know. I am considering Stage3+ when it comes out. Currently at Stage2+ this does not happen on the power. Even around a near 90 degree corner in 1st gear and standing on it half way through the car just RIPS around the corner with no drama like a rocket! So it seems with Stage3 you can overcome grip. This may be where a haldex controller gets real handy.
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      10-03-2012 03:32 PM #469
      Quote Originally Posted by mcgyver7923 View Post
      This is good to know. I am considering Stage3+ when it comes out. Currently at Stage2+ this does not happen on the power. Even around a near 90 degree corner in 1st gear and standing on it half way through the car just RIPS around the corner with no drama like a rocket! So it seems with Stage3 you can overcome grip. This may be where a haldex controller gets real handy.
      definitely enough power to get this thing sideways, if the eSP was disabled.
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      10-03-2012 03:38 PM #470
      Quote Originally Posted by scottisha View Post
      definitely enough power to get this thing sideways, if the eSP was disabled.
      Scottisha, are you running a haldex competition controller?

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      10-03-2012 05:29 PM #471
      So since APR, REVO, GIAC all claim to be able to turn ESP off but won't give us the power, where does that leave the guys with Maestro? Has Chris Tapp made his opinion on this public?

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      10-03-2012 05:33 PM #472
      Quote Originally Posted by watsonj0 View Post
      Scottisha, are you running a haldex competition controller?
      I am not......Not at this point...

      I'm pretty sure APR is working on a Haldex solution/option..... Maybe Arin knows if they really are or not. I had heard they were looking into it.

      I imagine being able to send more power to the rear has to really help balance this car out in the twisties.

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      10-03-2012 05:58 PM #473
      Quote Originally Posted by bzflag View Post
      So since APR, REVO, GIAC all claim to be able to turn ESP off but won't give us the power, where does that leave the guys with Maestro? Has Chris Tapp made his opinion on this public?
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      10-03-2012 06:10 PM #474
      man, that makes me think it's something very simple.

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      10-03-2012 06:25 PM #475
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      man, that makes me think it's something very simple.
      I'm like 99% sure it is and some vender like apr will market it and guess what, people will pay cuz they want to drift and don't know any different. I'm hoping that racer guy that pulling his car apart for lite weight pieces will figure it out and let us know. Personally I'm half temped to wire a switch for the front abs sensor in the cabin and use a haldex controller in race mode. I have no idea if the ecu will over ride the signal of the race mode when the sensor stops working tho. Still on hold for now, I don't need anything right way.
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    21. 10-03-2012 06:37 PM #476
      Quote Originally Posted by scottisha View Post
      I am not......Not at this point...

      I'm pretty sure APR is working on a Haldex solution/option..... Maybe Arin knows if they really are or not. I had heard they were looking into it.

      I imagine being able to send more power to the rear has to really help balance this car out in the twisties.

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      10-03-2012 07:19 PM #477
      Quote Originally Posted by ThatJohnGuy View Post
      BSHR is and I will be once I get to installing it. From what I understand, 60% rear, 40% front, 100% of the time.
      100%! Won't that over heat the system? The way I understood it, it was a hydraulic pump running the activation of the rear end.
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      10-03-2012 07:55 PM #478
      Quote Originally Posted by ThatJohnGuy View Post
      BSHR is and I will be once I get to installing it. From what I understand, 60% rear, 40% front, 100% of the time.
      That's only possible if the fronts have less traction than the rear.
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      10-03-2012 07:58 PM #479
      Quote Originally Posted by velocity196 View Post
      I'm like 99% sure it is and some vender like apr will market it
      It's already been discussed that there are likely legal issues with them doing this.
      Scotch. It's time.

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      10-03-2012 10:17 PM #480
      Quote Originally Posted by Time for a GTI View Post
      It's already been discussed that there are likely legal issues with them doing this.
      You right however from what I took on the subject that was for manufactures not tuners ;-). I think most tuner chips are illegal anyways LOL! NEUSPEED back in the day had lil CARB stickers and were approved but I have no idea who are all approved these days.
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      10-04-2012 07:08 AM #481
      Quote Originally Posted by ThatJohnGuy View Post
      BSHR is and I will be once I get to installing it. From what I understand, 60% rear, 40% front, 100% of the time.
      Unpossible! They're either lying to you, or they live in some kind of fantasy world.
      The Golf R has no center differential, and therefore can not "dial-in" any percentage of front-to-rear bias.

      This is the reality of Haldex:
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      That's only possible if the fronts have less traction than the rear.
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      10-04-2012 08:01 AM #482
      Quote Originally Posted by velocity196 View Post
      You right however from what I took on the subject that was for manufactures not tuners ;-). I think most tuner chips are illegal anyways LOL! NEUSPEED back in the day had lil CARB stickers and were approved but I have no idea who are all approved these days.
      CARB only applies in the Communistical Republic of California.

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      10-04-2012 08:53 AM #483
      Quote Originally Posted by velocity196 View Post
      You right however from what I took on the subject that was for manufactures not tuners ;-). I think most tuner chips are illegal anyways LOL! NEUSPEED back in the day had lil CARB stickers and were approved but I have no idea who are all approved these days.
      First, you have it backwards. The manufacturer can put an option to fully disable. A non-manufacturer cannot as the traction control falls under a safety mechanism. Safety mechanisms cannot be modified in any way by a non-manufacturer. Second, there is a big difference between DOT safety requirement violations and CARB.
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      10-04-2012 11:33 AM #484
      I know the difference , carb is more strict than dot so carb by default is approved the way I understood it. Here in Washington I was told no modification of any kind was legal. I got pulled over for a loud exhaust and right when the cop was explaining it to me a vette passed by so loud I couldn't hear him talking. Was so damn funny! Just a verbal warning and ever since I've had turbo cars.

      Oh thanks for explaining to me the esp thing, I thought it only applied to the manufacturers.
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      10-04-2012 11:50 AM #485
      The HPA Competition controller keeps the rear wheels engaged at all times. No slip or less traction necessary. I have it, its a great upgrade!
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      10-04-2012 12:03 PM #486
      Still not getting it. CARB is for emissions. DOT covers car safety and a whole host of other regs. Not the same thing at all. Not a superset or anything. Each state sets their own emissions requirements.

      CARB is fine. Not ideal for enthusiasts but it has greatly reduced air pollution. Fact.

      Now there are some really dumb parts of it, like not being able to put on a perfectly good used catalytic converter. And I still don't get the visual inspection thing. If you pass you pass, who cares what the engine looks like as long as you aren't bypassing your exhaust or anything really crazy. The aftermarket intake for example has no negative emissions impact and yet will cause you to fail visual.
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      10-04-2012 12:06 PM #487
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      The HPA Competition controller keeps the rear wheels engaged at all times.
      MPG's must have dropped some?

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      10-04-2012 02:20 PM #488
      Quote Originally Posted by velocity196 View Post
      I know the difference , carb is more strict than dot so carb by default is approved the way I understood it.
      You understood incorrectly. DOT and CARB do not regulate the same requirements.
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      10-04-2012 06:20 PM #489
      LMFAO for YEARS I thought they were the same but carb was California's more strict program! Thanks for clearing that up HAHA!
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    35. 10-04-2012 06:38 PM #490
      I've spent a bunch of time, and some money (about $500) working on figuring this out....I think I will try and test my theory this weekend after giving my wallet a small rest. I had a request in another thread for Canadian Golf R codes...but was told "it's been posted earlier in the thread" (btw - great way to not support someone trying to figure out an issue) and I only have one Canadian Golf R code to go off of (there may be more...but I haven't done a recent search).....when I have 3 different US codes to figure out what I need/want done.

      If it works out...it will be a rather simple fix....

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