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      08-20-2012 05:15 PM #211
      After talking with Rob, he seems to think the TS setup on such a small frame turbo, wouldn't do very much in the way of spool. He said the GTX3071R would give me just as good spool by itself and paying $1400 for a tubular TS manifold would just be a waste of money. He also suggested a PTE 5558 CEA DBB turbo instead of the GTX. Says it gives better spool at a lower cost. Not sure about Precision though as far as reliability goes. Not to mention all the Precision/Garret crap going on right now, precision is just making themselves look stupid

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      08-28-2012 02:46 PM #212
      So, more good news. Afte Integrated Engineering got my motor taken apart they found that the last machine shop left all kinds of crap in my motor. As soon as they got the head off, there was a bunch of dirt, hair and metal shavings that they said looked like welding slag, sitting ontop of the pistons. The piston ring lands had dirt and grim in them so when you turned the rings it feels gritty. Also when they painted the block, they got paint in the oil filter galleys, coolant flange ports, and on the bottom of the block where the oil pan is suppose to mate to it. When they pulled my oil pan bolt, it was cross threaded and there was more metal shavings. When they installed my ARP crack damper bolt, they didn't use loctite and it wasn't torqued to spec. Thats all they found so far but I'm sure I will be adding to the list the farther they get into it. Guess I'll be calling Jensen's auto machine shop this week looking for my money back. Modding cars is so much fun

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      08-28-2012 04:12 PM #213
      Quote Originally Posted by Dowski12 View Post
      So, more good news. Afte Integrated Engineering got my motor taken apart they found that the last machine shop left all kinds of crap in my motor. As soon as they got the head off, there was a bunch of dirt, hair and metal shavings that they said looked like welding slag, sitting ontop of the pistons. The piston ring lands had dirt and grim in them so when you turned the rings it feels gritty. Also when they painted the block, they got paint in the oil filter galleys, coolant flange ports, and on the bottom of the block where the oil pan is suppose to mate to it. When they pulled my oil pan bolt, it was cross threaded and there was more metal shavings. When they installed my ARP crack damper bolt, they didn't use loctite and it wasn't torqued to spec. Thats all they found so far but I'm sure I will be adding to the list the farther they get into it. Guess I'll be calling Jensen's auto machine shop this week looking for my money back. Modding cars is so much fun
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      08-28-2012 04:46 PM #214
      Quote Originally Posted by Dowski12 View Post
      So, more good news. Afte Integrated Engineering got my motor taken apart they found that the last machine shop left all kinds of crap in my motor. As soon as they got the head off, there was a bunch of dirt, hair and metal shavings that they said looked like welding slag, sitting ontop of the pistons. The piston ring lands had dirt and grim in them so when you turned the rings it feels gritty. Also when they painted the block, they got paint in the oil filter galleys, coolant flange ports, and on the bottom of the block where the oil pan is suppose to mate to it. When they pulled my oil pan bolt, it was cross threaded and there was more metal shavings. When they installed my ARP crack damper bolt, they didn't use loctite and it wasn't torqued to spec. Thats all they found so far but I'm sure I will be adding to the list the farther they get into it. Guess I'll be calling Jensen's auto machine shop this week looking for my money back. Modding cars is so much fun
      In light of this, and whatever else comes to the surface, it's a good thing you had to switch shops to finish your engine build. Better to find out now than when it's all buttoned up and you're terrorizing the track!
      KO3 @ 30psi...

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      08-28-2012 04:51 PM #215
      Yeah, for sure. At least the motor is in the right hands now.

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      08-28-2012 05:00 PM #216
      If you are that worried about spool, you could go 2.1l since you dont have the ALH block for 2.2l. That combined with a good awic setup with 2.5" hot side and 3" cold side piping to reduce lag as much as possible. I think I have a total of 2.5-3 ft of piping doing this. Stay away from the tubular manifolds and just go a nice cast PPT or similar to control heat and keep the velocity of the exhaust gases up. I haven't been able to drive enough for a good review on the 5857BB but from the little I got to drive it so far, the spool is definitely bearable and I'm not stroked (yet ) if you stroke it and stay with a 3076 to 5858 sized turbo i think you'll be happy with spool and power. Also, get a vband housing if you can. I really wish I would've

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      08-28-2012 06:34 PM #217
      We are doing a Billet 5858 DBB on a vbanded housing, .64 A/R, 2.5-3" IC piping, and tubular mani. I'm already goin to be stroked so even with a tube mani I should still get pretty decent spool. I'm pretty sure later on down the road I will re-visit the compound setup using my 5858 and something smaller that will match up good, but for now a single setup is more in my budget after wasting so much money on crappy mechanics.

      Rob also offered to paint my car...well kinda. We are going to do a little plasti dippin just for fun. I'm thinking either doing gunmetal with black accents, or the new matte blue with black accents. At the moment I'm leaning more towards the blue simply because the gunmetal looks too much like primer. The blue is really bright and will definitley turn heads. Rob has plasti dipped cars before so I assume it will turn out pretty decent, but if not it can always come off.

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      08-29-2012 08:39 AM #218
      Quote Originally Posted by Dowski12 View Post
      So, more good news. Afte Integrated Engineering got my motor taken apart they found that the last machine shop left all kinds of crap in my motor. As soon as they got the head off, there was a bunch of dirt, hair and metal shavings that they said looked like welding slag, sitting ontop of the pistons. The piston ring lands had dirt and grim in them so when you turned the rings it feels gritty. Also when they painted the block, they got paint in the oil filter galleys, coolant flange ports, and on the bottom of the block where the oil pan is suppose to mate to it. When they pulled my oil pan bolt, it was cross threaded and there was more metal shavings. When they installed my ARP crack damper bolt, they didn't use loctite and it wasn't torqued to spec. Thats all they found so far but I'm sure I will be adding to the list the farther they get into it. Guess I'll be calling Jensen's auto machine shop this week looking for my money back. Modding cars is so much fun
      I hope you took pics of the mess with the motor that way you have proof just in case
      They say they didn't do that
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      08-29-2012 08:59 AM #219
      Quote Originally Posted by Dowski12 View Post
      plasti dippin just for fun. I'm thinking either doing gunmetal with black accents, or the new matte blue with black accents. At the moment I'm leaning more towards the blue simply because the gunmetal looks too much like primer. The blue is really bright and will definitley turn heads. Rob has plasti dipped cars before so I assume it will turn out pretty decent, but if not it can always come off.



      Do not do this. Trust me. I've done it and regret it.

      It gets everywhere & it sucks to wash and collects dirt. It also isn't that easy to get off and good luck getting it out of the seals.
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      08-29-2012 12:10 PM #220
      good choice on the turbo! to answer you earlier question, yes i'm bored and stroked to 2.0l with a journal bearing billet 5858 .63 AR hot side. It is an awesome set up. From what i read, you don't really gain too much on the spool up with the triplex BB 5858, but the response and respool between shifts is much better. With the 2.0l it still feels like it has more torque down low than my chipped tt 225. You are flowing much more air even though you aren't at the same PSI levels.


      The compound set up would be cool, but i think a single turbo set up is more reliable and predictable. If you run into issues i think more people will be able to help you out.

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      08-29-2012 03:24 PM #221
      Quote Originally Posted by 01ttgt28 View Post
      I hope you took pics of the mess with the motor that way you have proof just in case
      They say they didn't do that
      Yeah, IE took a bunch of pics for me and sent them to my phone and I asked them to take as many as possible so I have something to back me up.

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      08-29-2012 03:31 PM #222
      Quote Originally Posted by DougLoBue View Post


      Do not do this. Trust me. I've done it and regret it.

      It gets everywhere & it sucks to wash and collects dirt. It also isn't that easy to get off and good luck getting it out of the seals.
      Yeah, I remember how much trouble it gave you but the only difference is I have someone else to take care of all that head ache. Im only planning on leaving it on for like 6 to 8 months while I wait to respray my car. At that point I'm gonna sand blast the whole car anyway so I wont have to worry about peeling tiny pieces off at a time. Im gonna do all the prep work myself to save a little money on the respray.

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      08-31-2012 02:06 PM #223
      Dont know if anyone cares, but this is the look I'm going for on the car once the build is done. Took me like 7 hours using paint on the computer to finish this...dont judge me

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      08-31-2012 03:12 PM #224
      I like it

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      08-31-2012 07:08 PM #225
      Thanks

      By the way, anyone looking for an intercooler, I'm selling my brand new Treadstone TR1035, w/completed cold side SS pipe, and I have extra SS pipe to complete the hot side. I'm going AWIC and need to sell it asap to help pay for the fab work. If anyone is interested let me know, I'll let it go for $250 plus shipping.

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      09-11-2012 05:49 AM #226
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      10-04-2012 01:41 PM #227
      Any updates?


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      10-13-2012 04:28 AM #228
      Not really much to talk about as of yet. The motor is back from Integrated Engineering and is in the car. Currently I'm just getting the funds together to complete everything.

      On a side note, I haven't been able to get ahold of JC to get the money he owes me. After talking to a lawyer about the whole situation, I'm thinking the $2400 we agreed on isn't gonna cut it at this point. If I'm going the legal route, might as well go for the full amount plus damages, since JC has decided to give me the run around. I'm pretty sure that A$$hole changed shops too. I've been by his shop about 15 times to try and collect. Every time its closed up and all the cars he used to have sitting out side are gone. Go figure

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      10-13-2012 08:00 AM #229
      Quote Originally Posted by Dowski12 View Post
      Not really much to talk about as of yet. The motor is back from Integrated Engineering and is in the car. Currently I'm just getting the funds together to complete everything.

      On a side note, I haven't been able to get ahold of JC to get the money he owes me. After talking to a lawyer about the whole situation, I'm thinking the $2400 we agreed on isn't gonna cut it at this point. If I'm going the legal route, might as well go for the full amount plus damages, since JC has decided to give me the run around. I'm pretty sure that A$$hole changed shops too. I've been by his shop about 15 times to try and collect. Every time its closed up and all the cars he used to have sitting out side are gone. Go figure
      Dame u think he would close up shop over $2000 that's crazy maybe he has some other problem
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      10-14-2012 01:57 AM #230
      I dont think he changed shops just because of the money. He had already found a new shop, but to my knowledge, he wasn't moving for a couple of months. I think it was just a perfect opportunity to move earlier, and avoid paying me at the same time.
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      10-14-2012 07:31 AM #231
      Dame that sucks looks like u took th shaft!!!!
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      10-18-2012 09:34 PM #232
      Yeah, with no lube...

      I'm waiting on a quote for the rest of my build. Once I know how much the rest of this is going to cost me, the updates should come a little quicker.

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      10-19-2012 10:30 AM #233
      Your perseverance is noteworthy for sure

      Looking forward to the final results
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      10-30-2012 03:24 AM #234
      Well, got all the fund together and paid the man...parts are on the way. Waiting on my Precision 5858, a BBM oil cooler, and an AWIC set up to get here. The motor is being picked up for my custom tubular v band manifold tomorrow, so hopefully should have some pics in a week or so

      I'm so glad I get to spend money again, I was going through withdraws

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      10-30-2012 08:48 AM #235
      [QUOTE=I'm so glad I get to spend money again, I was going through withdraws[/QUOTE]

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      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

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      11-17-2012 04:22 AM #237
      Finally some progress!!!



      Custom made exhaust mani in the works
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      11-21-2012 02:45 AM #238
      Turbo came in today.


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      11-22-2012 11:42 AM #239
      Two turbos ???
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      11-22-2012 02:25 PM #240
      Quote Originally Posted by 01ttgt28 View Post
      Two turbos ???
      Same size??
      Reading>posting .

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      11-22-2012 06:32 PM #241
      haha...only one is mine, the other is going on an STI
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      12-04-2012 02:22 PM #242
      BBM oil cooler, pretty impressed with the quality





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      12-04-2012 09:59 PM #243
      Are u ditching the factory oil cooler???
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      12-05-2012 12:11 AM #244
      Yes, the kit comes with a thermostatic sandwhich plate so there really is no reason to keep it.
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      01-10-2013 07:12 PM #245
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