APR Presents: North American TT RS 2.5 TFSI ECU Upgrade!

[Arin@APR]

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APR is pleased to present the ultimate ECU Upgrade for the Audi TT RS and
RS3 2.5 TFSI. After months of long nights and many hours of testing, development
and more testing, we are pleased to offer you an ECU recalibration that is
second to none. APR's extensive research and development provides you
with a powerful ECU Upgrade with no loss of drivability or reliability. Expect
tremendous increases in power and torque across the entire power band,
improved throttle response and a smoother, more powerful top end.

The 2.5 TFSI's engine management presented new challenges to the
Engineering Teams at APR in the form of new control strategies for
torque management. Significant time was spent researching these new
strategies to properly request more load and therefore more boost in the
lower end of the power band. The results were simple, a torque curve that
crushes the competition and delivers a rush of power like no other in the industry.

The Audi 2.5 TFSI ECU Upgrade is an expertly recalibrated engine control
strategy that remaps boost, timing, air fuel ratios and other engine
management paramaters to provide smooth and reliable power as if intended
by the OEM. APR's ECU Upgrade is developed to work within the OEM
and Tier 1 Supplier specifications for engine component stress tolerances
and performance specifications. APR's ECU Upgrades are available in
octane specific versions to allow you to take full advantage of the fuel
quality available in your area.

APR’s Motorsport Left Foot Braking feature is now available allowing customers
more control over their vehicle’s throttle. Under normal operation, throttle
input is disabled while pressing the accelerator and brake at the same time,
however this may be undesirable for those looking to get the most out of their
vehicles performance on the track. Enabling the left foot braking feature, the
driver will have complete control over the vehicle’s throttle and braking system,
which may give the edge he or she needs at the track.

Stage I ECU Upgrade

Not only does our Stage I ECU Upgrade give you higher peak numbers of
414 horsepower and 430 ft-lbs of torque, but also gains of up to 73 horsepower
and 79 lb-ft are available at lower RPMs! APR's ECU Upgrade is the best
power per dollar modification for the new 2.5 TFSI and gives it just the extra
edge these cars lack from the factory without pushing the limits. With factory
like smoothness and drivability APR's ECU Upgrade will fill the void in an
otherwise excellent car.



Click here for figures measured at the front wheels on our in house Dynapack Dyno:
Dyno Chart





APR Stage I ECU Upgrade Calibration Report

Stock
As Reported by Audi AG
338 HP
332 TQ

Stock
As Reported by Audi USA
360 HP
343 TQ

Stock
As Measured by APR
375 HP
365 TQ

93 (R+M)/2 Octane
414 HP
430 HP
+73 HP @ 4,900 RPM
+79 TQ @ 4,900 RPM

Application Guide

All North American TT RS 2.5 TFSI 6MT's
All ROW TT RS 2.5 TFSI 6MT's or S-Tronic's
All ROW RS3 2.5 TFSI 6MT's or S-Tronic's

Available Octane Modes
91 (R+M)/2 - North America
93 (R+M)/2 - North America
100 (R+M)/2 - North America
95 RON - Rest of World
98 RON - Rest of World
104 RON - Rest of World

US Price:

$899

Please check with your local importer if you are outside of the US for pricing in your country.

Please Note - Program switching is not available at this time but is in development.
Customers purchasing APR Software before program switching is released will be
entitled to a free fully loaded ECU update upon release.

All updates are available throught the ODB-II port at APR dealers (unless flashed back to stock).

North American and Tuning Protected Software Availability - At this time, all North
American and Tuning Protected ECU's must be sent to APR to be flashed. APR
anticipated availability at APR Dealers world wide as early as April 2012


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[LongviewTx]

hallelujah, it's here. just in time for next track event!

[Arin@APR]

hallelujah, it's here. just in time for next track event!

Perfect!

[Dion@ACHTUN!NG]

We've got a couple locals who are going to be very excited to hear this news!

[LongviewTx]

All APR dealers are ready to go next week without question in US?

[DrDomm]

There's a couple of interesting things there, besides the APR HP/TQ numbers.

1. The stock numbers.
2. The price.

[Arin@APR]

All APR dealers are ready to go next week without question in US?

None are. As stated, ECU's must be sent to APR for flashing until dealers get the tools to flash in house. We anticipate in house flashing in April.

[DrDomm]

None are. As stated, ECU's must be sent to APR for flashing until dealers get the tools to flash in house. We anticipate in house flashing in April.

Oh, that's interesting too.

[LongviewTx]

None are. As stated, ECU's must be sent to APR for flashing until dealers get the tools to flash in house. We anticipate in house flashing in April.

Are instructions to remove the ECU available from APR, or posted somewhere, for specifically the TT-RS?

And, what about the RSC Catalytic converter and back exhaust system? D
How much HP/Torque is added through its installtion above the ECU flash upgrade?

Lastly, I am wondering if the experts at APR have a recommnedation for replacement brake pads that are Street/Track combo useful and better than the OEM issue. Just planning ahead for the extra speed scrubbing requirements post flash.

[Arin@APR]

Are instructions to remove the ECU available from APR, or posted somewhere, for specifically the TT-RS?

The directions are essentially the same as the A3/GTI:

http://www.goapr.com/support/ecu_removal/gti_mk5.html

If you have any difficulty, an APR dealer can easily do it for you. I'll see to it we update the directions specific to the TT RS next week.

[AppleChilli]

Very good news indeed; I'm so going to get this mod!

[Arin@APR]

Very good news indeed; I'm so going to get this mod!

The acceleration is absolutely brutal. I love this engine so much.

[AppleChilli]

I've noticed that the acceleration with the sport button pushed is 100% better than without; however, the suspension in a bit rougher. How is the acceleration w/o the sport button pushed or does it matter? Is the juice always on tap?

[tdi-bart]

so canadians can send in the ECU as well? what is the deal with customs again? upon return shipment you just put down $899 as the value?

[Arin@APR]

I've noticed that the acceleration with the sport button pushed is 100% better than without; however, the suspension in a bit rougher. How is the acceleration w/o the sport button pushed or does it matter? Is the juice always on tap?

The juice is always on tap and the sport button functionality remains the same.


On the dyno the car made the same power with and without the sport button enabled.

[Arin@APR]

so canadians can send in the ECU as well? what is the deal with customs again? upon return shipment you just put down $899 as the value?

Outside of the US we'll need you to send your ECU to an APR dealer.

Find a local dealer and contact them to arrange shipment. www.goapr.com/dealer/

[AppleChilli]

Awesome!

Do you have installers in Northern VA?

When will the tools be available and what will be the price of the exhaust?

[AppleChilli]

Awesome!

Do you have installers in Northern VA?

When will the tools be available and what will be the price of the exhaust?

Saw the dealer locator

[Arin@APR]

Awesome!

Do you have installers in Northern VA?

When will the tools be available and what will be the price of the exhaust?

We do! Try putting your zipcode in here:
http://www.goapr.com/dealer/

The exhaust price is still TBD. We don't have that info ready yet.

The tools should be at the dealers in April if all goes to plan.

[fourtunes]

Neat! Now I just have to hope that Audi manages to fix my car before 034Motorsports can perform the ECU update locally.

[Marty]

Available Octane Modes
91 (R+M)/2 - North America <-----------
93 (R+M)/2 - North America
100 (R+M)/2 - North America
95 RON - Rest of World
98 RON - Rest of World
104 RON - Rest of World

Thanks Arin! Important question for us out here in California / Arizona / Nevada: do you have a dyno curve for the 91 octane program? There is no link to numbers or curves for this in your post or on the APR product page.

[tdi-bart]

can you provide more info about the software, does it remove the 280kph speed limiter, does the boost graph in cluster functionality remain? and was it recalibrated for new boost settings? the throttle pedal stays lazy in non-sport mode and in sport mode is more touchy just like stock?

[- Jeremy -]

Woot! Looks great. I'm really excited about this mod.

Arin,

I'm an American living in Germany under military orders. My car is the NA version that I'm driving around here. I want to flash my car, but I have two problems:

1. I don't want to pay high Euro or British Pound prices. The exchange rate is brutal.
2. I don't want to ship my ECU to the States and back again. That would be a pretty devastating loss if it went missing.

So, I was wondering if it would be possible for me to (some time in the next few months) visit your UK HQ to perform the flashing there. But also at US pricing or something near it. I don't want to spend $1,500 on something that should only cost me $900, you know? What do you suggest?

Thanks,

- Jeremy -

[Arin@APR]

Thanks Arin! Important question for us out here in California / Arizona / Nevada: do you have a dyno curve for the 91 octane program? There is no link to numbers or curves for this in your post or on the APR product page.

Right now, unfortunately no, I don't have dyno figures for 91 octane. I know GoodSpeed in Arizona was itching to get a TTRS on the dyno so hopefully I can share their results!

can you provide more info about the software, does it remove the 280kph speed limiter, does the boost graph in cluster functionality remain? and was it recalibrated for new boost settings? the throttle pedal stays lazy in non-sport mode and in sport mode is more touchy just like stock?

Speed limiter is removed.
Boost in cluster still works and was not altered (it's just a sensor that reads boost, so no recal needed).
Sport/Normal throttle operation stays the same.

Woot! Looks great. I'm really excited about this mod.

Arin,

I'm an American living in Germany under military orders. My car is the NA version that I'm driving around here. I want to flash my car, but I have two problems:

1. I don't want to pay high Euro or British Pound prices. The exchange rate is brutal.

Please speak with APR Germany www.goapr.de. They offer discounts for US military personnel.

2. I don't want to ship my ECU to the States and back again. That would be a pretty devastating loss if it went missing.

Our new flashing tools are almost ready for dealers. We anticipate on site flashing in April.

So, I was wondering if it would be possible for me to (some time in the next few months) visit your UK HQ to perform the flashing there. But also at US pricing or something near it. I don't want to spend $1,500 on something that should only cost me $900, you know? What do you suggest?

Thanks,

- Jeremy -

Keith is handling much of the European operation now in the UK. I can get you in touch with him and we could see what can be arranged as I'm not up to speed on all the logistics in Europe with our network/pricing and such. Can you send me your email address in a PM?

[Marty]

Right now, unfortunately no, I don't have dyno figures for 91 octane. I know GoodSpeed in Arizona was itching to get a TTRS on the dyno so hopefully I can share their results!

Thanks for the reply. So APR tunes for 91 octane offline from a dyno? It seems odd to sell a product (91 octane tune) with zero details about the performance. Any idea when APR will add this info to the product page? Thanks.

[Arin@APR]

Thanks for the reply. So APR tunes for 91 octane offline from a dyno? It seems odd to sell a product (91 octane tune) with zero details about the performance. Any idea when APR will add this info to the product page? Thanks.

Very little of the tuning process actually takes place on the dyno as the car operates fairly differently on the dyno as it does on the road. We unfortunately did not get 91 octane dyno figures or 100 octane figures before the NA release. I'll see what can be done to get these figures in house but that may be difficult with the current Stage 3 project underway.

[oldster1]

ECU upgrade....how about one on the 2.0 TFSI. The RS is not lacking for power, the base TT could use some.

[Marty]

Very little of the tuning process actually takes place on the dyno as the car operates fairly differently on the dyno as it does on the road. We unfortunately did not get 91 octane dyno figures or 100 octane figures before the NA release. I'll see what can be done to get these figures in house but that may be difficult with the current Stage 3 project underway.

From the 2.0T TTS tune on the APR website, Stage 1 made 322 hp on 93 octane, and 313 hp on 91 octane (-9 hp, or -2.8%).

If we assume something similar for the TT-RS, then the 414 hp on 93 octane would drop to ~402 hp on 91. APR measured 375 hp stock, so that's a +27 hp (peak) increase (with greater gains in the mid-range, of course).

Arin - will Stage 3 upgrades be discounted for folks that already own Stage 1 (since the owner already has the APR reflash)?

[Arin@APR]

From the 2.0T TTS tune on the APR website, Stage 1 made 322 hp on 93 octane, and 313 hp on 91 octane (-9 hp, or -2.8%).

If we assume something similar for the TT-RS, then the 414 hp on 93 octane would drop to ~402 hp on 91. APR measured 375 hp stock, so that's a +27 hp (peak) increase (with greater gains in the mid-range, of course).

Arin - will Stage 3 upgrades be discounted for folks that already own Stage 1 (since the owner already has the APR reflash)?

I wouldn't assume anything when it comes to calibrations between different vehicles, but one thing to consider is that stock was measured with 93 octane, and not 91. 91 stock will produce lower figures than 93.

Stage 3 always comes with one program, so if you have APR software, we give you a fully loaded ECU.

[oldster1]

no reply as to when APR will have anything for the 2.0 TFSI......

[Marty]

I wouldn't assume anything when it comes to calibrations between different vehicles, but one thing to consider is that stock was measured with 93 octane, and not 91. 91 stock will produce lower figures than 93.

Thanks Arin. Could be, although another possibility is that the stock tune is conservative enough that it will produce similar numbers on 91 and 93.

On the APR TTS Stage 1 chip page, the same power numbers are listed for stock for the 91 octane comparison and the 93 octane comparison (265 hp), so it's unclear which gas was used for the stock baseline.

Stage 3 always comes with one program, so if you have APR software, we give you a fully loaded ECU.

If I were buy a Stage 1 reflash for $899 and later upgrade to a Stage 3, can I sell my Stage 1 program to someone else? That is, does APR support removing it from one car and installing it on another at a different location (for the cost of the labor to do the swap, let's say)? Or can the software never be transferred?

And lastly... can you clarify what a "fully loaded ECU" is? Is that all program options (4 programs) plus all features (security lockout, etc.)?

[VR6 NRG]

no reply as to when APR will have anything for the 2.0 TFSI......

x349839835324 still waiting, its taking so damn long.

these 2.5T numbers are redonkulous though. man i wish i could afford the RS.

[Arin@APR]

ECU upgrade....how about one on the 2.0 TFSI. The RS is not lacking for power, the base TT could use some.

We have beta software. Shoot me a PM with your contact info.

On the APR TTS Stage 1 chip page, the same power numbers are listed for stock for the 91 octane comparison and the 93 octane comparison (265 hp), so it's unclear which gas was used for the stock baseline.

We used 93. The only car I remember recently running a stock baseline using both was the B8 S4.

If I were buy a Stage 1 reflash for $899 and later upgrade to a Stage 3, can I sell my Stage 1 program to someone else? That is, does APR support removing it from one car and installing it on another at a different location (for the cost of the labor to do the swap, let's say)? Or can the software never be transferred?

We don't offer software transfers.

And lastly... can you clarify what a "fully loaded ECU" is? Is that all program options (4 programs) plus all features (security lockout, etc.)?

Typically it means 4 programs (stock, valet, 91, 93 or 100 octane are the normal ones), program switching through the cruise control stalk, fault code erase feature, security lockout and anti-theft.

[tdi-bart]

hahaha

[Marty]

We have beta software. Shoot me a PM with your contact info.



We used 93. The only car I remember recently running a stock baseline using both was the B8 S4.




We don't offer software transfers.



Typically it means 4 programs (stock, valet, 91, 93 or 100 octane are the normal ones), program switching through the cruise control stalk, fault code erase feature, security lockout and anti-theft.

Thanks. I didn't realize that APR reflashes had no resale value. That seems like a big consideration for customers. It basically makes the cost of ownership considerably higher than if they could be resold. Though I understand that this would also reduce total APR sales.

But maybe APR would sell more reflashes if customers knew they could resell them? Tough business call.